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ProbeEtPylon
Profile Joined October 2010
168 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 22:12:48
March 11 2013 22:12 GMT
#4021
Did people from SEA have connection problems with HotS at 00:00? (thinking about Diablo 3 :'( )
beer
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
March 11 2013 22:12 GMT
#4022
On March 12 2013 07:11 Cook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 07:09 Loxley wrote:
I really urge every SC2 fan out there and in this thread to Watch the Life vs Flash HotS showmatch from today. Really.


Would you be so kind to provide a link to it?

http://www.gomtv.net/gomstage/vod/72073#

HQ free on GOMTV
Cook
Profile Joined May 2011
France130 Posts
March 11 2013 22:13 GMT
#4023
On March 12 2013 07:12 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 07:11 Cook wrote:
On March 12 2013 07:09 Loxley wrote:
I really urge every SC2 fan out there and in this thread to Watch the Life vs Flash HotS showmatch from today. Really.


Would you be so kind to provide a link to it?

http://www.gomtv.net/gomstage/vod/72073#

HQ free on GOMTV


Thanks, good sir.
Lunchador
Profile Joined April 2010
United States776 Posts
March 11 2013 22:13 GMT
#4024
On March 12 2013 07:08 Archybaldie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 07:07 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 12 2013 07:04 Lunchador wrote:
On March 12 2013 07:03 wei2coolman wrote:
VoidRay looks ridiculous in HotS. What did they change to it?


On-demand charge as well as a flat 20% increase to its DPS. Void Rays are quite guud now.

That's a bit ridiculous......

maybe the on-demand charge would be good enough, but that stacked with 20% dmg increase seems... yeah...

White-ra just had bigger army, also the archons pushed it to his advantage.


Prismatic Alignment

Increases damage to armored units by 6 for 20 seconds. This does not scale with upgrades.

Not a flat 20% increase just a pretty big increase VS ARMORED.


Their base DPS is increased by 20%. Their fire rate went to .5 from .6, so even non-charge beam does damage insanely quick to even light units. And yes, the charge only increases damage to armored and it shreds armored like knife thru butter!
Defender of truth, justice, and noontime meals!
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
March 11 2013 22:13 GMT
#4025
On March 12 2013 07:12 ssxsilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 07:08 Musicus wrote:
So how about building phoenix against Voidrays? Maybe archon/chargelots to go with it. Honest question, I have no idea.

Well on paper, phoenixes are supposed to counter VRs on paper, plus its 2 supply vs 4.


If you open Phoenix it works out great because you can just keep darting in and sniping off VRs to keep the count low and build up air superiority but when the VR ball gets to a certain size and is properly supported then Phoenix become almost worthless.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 11 2013 22:13 GMT
#4026
On March 12 2013 07:12 ssxsilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 07:08 Musicus wrote:
So how about building phoenix against Voidrays? Maybe archon/chargelots to go with it. Honest question, I have no idea.

Well on paper, phoenixes are supposed to counter VRs on paper, plus its 2 supply vs 4.


Yeah and you can outproduce your opponent on the same stargate count due to the buildtime. So maybe.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Mellon
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden917 Posts
March 11 2013 22:14 GMT
#4027
On March 12 2013 07:12 ProbeEtPylon wrote:
Did people from SEA have connection problems with HotS at 00:00? (thinking about Diablo 3 :'( )


You can check for yourself, i had no problem logging in.
shineq
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1453 Posts
March 11 2013 22:14 GMT
#4028
Never noticed the new dynamic the Mothership Core brings into PvP.
"If you can chill, chill." - Liquid`NonY, "david some do it T>T" - SlayerSBoxeR || Twitter: http://twtter.com/shineqGAMING || http://twitch.tv/shineq
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
March 11 2013 22:14 GMT
#4029
On March 12 2013 07:12 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 07:11 Cook wrote:
On March 12 2013 07:09 Loxley wrote:
I really urge every SC2 fan out there and in this thread to Watch the Life vs Flash HotS showmatch from today. Really.


Would you be so kind to provide a link to it?

http://www.gomtv.net/gomstage/vod/72073#

HQ free on GOMTV


Best games of sc2 so far. So much action in that match.
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
March 11 2013 22:14 GMT
#4030
On March 12 2013 07:09 Loxley wrote:
I really urge every SC2 fan out there and in this thread to Watch the Life vs Flash HotS showmatch from today. Really.


VODs
(Bisu vs MVP is right after.
MMA: The true King of Wings
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
March 11 2013 22:14 GMT
#4031
On March 12 2013 07:07 nmetasch wrote:
where the hell can i find results from the korean section?...

Not sure if you know but the Korean section was just a bunch of showmatches. Like jaedong +ai vs creator + ai and MVP + fan vs bisu + fan

The only regular game was flash vs life which was the best tvz I have ever seen
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
Archybaldie
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom818 Posts
March 11 2013 22:14 GMT
#4032
On March 12 2013 07:13 Lunchador wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 07:08 Archybaldie wrote:
On March 12 2013 07:07 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 12 2013 07:04 Lunchador wrote:
On March 12 2013 07:03 wei2coolman wrote:
VoidRay looks ridiculous in HotS. What did they change to it?


On-demand charge as well as a flat 20% increase to its DPS. Void Rays are quite guud now.

That's a bit ridiculous......

maybe the on-demand charge would be good enough, but that stacked with 20% dmg increase seems... yeah...

White-ra just had bigger army, also the archons pushed it to his advantage.


Prismatic Alignment

Increases damage to armored units by 6 for 20 seconds. This does not scale with upgrades.

Not a flat 20% increase just a pretty big increase VS ARMORED.


Their base DPS is increased by 20%. Their fire rate went to .5 from .6, so even non-charge beam does damage insanely quick to even light units. And yes, the charge only increases damage to armored and it shreds armored like knife thru butter!


They're also 4 supply now instead of 3.
I'm in the bubblewrap league ... i just keep getting popped
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 11 2013 22:15 GMT
#4033
On March 12 2013 07:13 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 07:12 ssxsilver wrote:
On March 12 2013 07:08 Musicus wrote:
So how about building phoenix against Voidrays? Maybe archon/chargelots to go with it. Honest question, I have no idea.

Well on paper, phoenixes are supposed to counter VRs on paper, plus its 2 supply vs 4.


If you open Phoenix it works out great because you can just keep darting in and sniping off VRs to keep the count low and build up air superiority but when the VR ball gets to a certain size and is properly supported then Phoenix become almost worthless.


So 100 supply VR > 100 supply Phonixes?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
March 11 2013 22:15 GMT
#4034
On March 12 2013 07:13 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 07:12 ssxsilver wrote:
On March 12 2013 07:08 Musicus wrote:
So how about building phoenix against Voidrays? Maybe archon/chargelots to go with it. Honest question, I have no idea.

Well on paper, phoenixes are supposed to counter VRs on paper, plus its 2 supply vs 4.


If you open Phoenix it works out great because you can just keep darting in and sniping off VRs to keep the count low and build up air superiority but when the VR ball gets to a certain size and is properly supported then Phoenix become almost worthless.

Thanks! I wasn't quite sure the reasoning why pros don't go that route, but this makes sense.
Toxi78
Profile Joined May 2010
966 Posts
March 11 2013 22:15 GMT
#4035
hey guys, i missed stephano vs luci, who won please O.O?
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
March 11 2013 22:15 GMT
#4036
At what time is HOTS unlocked in EU?
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
Archybaldie
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom818 Posts
March 11 2013 22:16 GMT
#4037
On March 12 2013 07:15 heishe wrote:
At what time is HOTS unlocked in EU?


in about 45 minutes
I'm in the bubblewrap league ... i just keep getting popped
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 11 2013 22:16 GMT
#4038
On March 12 2013 07:15 heishe wrote:
At what time is HOTS unlocked in EU?


in 45 minutes
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
shineq
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1453 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 22:16:49
March 11 2013 22:16 GMT
#4039
On March 12 2013 07:15 heishe wrote:
At what time is HOTS unlocked in EU?


12PM CET.
"If you can chill, chill." - Liquid`NonY, "david some do it T>T" - SlayerSBoxeR || Twitter: http://twtter.com/shineqGAMING || http://twitch.tv/shineq
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
March 11 2013 22:16 GMT
#4040
On March 12 2013 07:15 Toxi78 wrote:
hey guys, i missed stephano vs luci, who won please O.O?

They didn't play.
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