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Own3d.tv to cease operations Jan 31st, 2013 - Page 9

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llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
January 31 2013 10:47 GMT
#161
RIP Own3d.tv
But you should have paid the players back
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 11:21:00
January 31 2013 11:17 GMT
#162
With own3d gone, things will definitely change.

I'm personally curious how youtube becoming more capable with streaming will affect the market. Youtube won't have the same focus on gaming that twitch has unless they start a separate chain, much like twitch and justintv. When it comes to that, Youtube is still really far behind, on the other hand, they've surely got more advertisers readily available in all regions than anyone. They'll have to accept we have our own sponsors and parties of interest first and foremost.

I don't really see Youtube catering to us like Twitch does, but it'll be an option at least. I guess ustream is still around, but they've shown they aren't able to grow quick enough to keep up. I don't have much faith in their management changing their philosophies any time soon.
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Comadevil
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany214 Posts
January 31 2013 11:21 GMT
#163
But u are not allowed to show ur sponsors on youtube (look a page back), so yt is for many teams not an option
achristes
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Norway653 Posts
January 31 2013 11:35 GMT
#164
Always sad that a company has to shutdown, but as for own3d, I don't really care. Twitch/justin was always the better alternative IMO (especially now considering destiny's article).
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Atrimex
Profile Joined July 2011
193 Posts
January 31 2013 13:12 GMT
#165
If you have enough money in the back you can drain out all of your competitor.
LuckyGnomTV
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Russian Federation367 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 13:24:07
January 31 2013 13:17 GMT
#166
Well, how should I backup my videos if they are already doesnt work? -__-
epidGoaty
Profile Joined December 2010
United States219 Posts
January 31 2013 13:37 GMT
#167
Twitch to open data centers in Europe? Tis what I would do to retain this phantom monopoly we have created for them.
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aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
January 31 2013 13:42 GMT
#168
terrible that they didn't pay the players, its a bit like not paying your staff... they are the real victims in all of this. I hate broken promises and unenforceable contracts. Own3d shall be another chapter in the eSport history of disappointment.
FlashDave.999 aka Star
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 13:50:46
January 31 2013 13:45 GMT
#169
Awesome, frauds like these should go bankrupt. Also, twitch has been better than own3d.tv in europe for quite a while. I also can't really believe that they aren't making a profit considering they've stolen probably hundreds of thousands from their streamers.


http://clgaming.net/news/424-clg-partners-with-azubu

Also judging by this it seems like Azubu might be a legit contender. Then again CLG did parter with own3d and we see how that went. Still, they have multiple streamers that get 10k+ viewers and that can't be bad for Azubu's growth. .
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StreetWise
Profile Joined January 2010
United States594 Posts
January 31 2013 14:09 GMT
#170
On January 31 2013 19:47 KAB00000000M wrote:
RIP Own3d.tv
But you should have paid the players back

If they were able to pay back the players, they would't be closing.....
I will not be poisoned by your bitterness
alhazrel
Profile Joined November 2011
98 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 14:28:22
January 31 2013 14:27 GMT
#171
I wonder how long the staff at own3d have been delaying payment on their own wages.
Hoon
Profile Joined December 2010
Brazil891 Posts
January 31 2013 15:18 GMT
#172
Wait.. so own3d will close and everyone will forget they owe money?
Shouldn't the CEO and/or everyone responsible get arrested or something?
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esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
January 31 2013 15:21 GMT
#173
own3d live streaming was always miles ahead of the twitch one, unfortunately with their vods being unseekable it rendered the whole vod thing useless.

owell, hoping for some new players to step up.
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
January 31 2013 15:24 GMT
#174
On February 01 2013 00:18 Hoon wrote:
Wait.. so own3d will close and everyone will forget they owe money?
Shouldn't the CEO and/or everyone responsible get arrested or something?

You can't draw blood from a stone.
phil.ipp
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria1067 Posts
January 31 2013 15:24 GMT
#175
lol arrested ? for what? going bankrupt? thats not a felony.

other than that, what is owed here are peanuts. 100 dollar here, maybe 500 dollar there. its not like they made millions of debt.

go search the financial crisis threads and get some perspective.
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 15:32:03
January 31 2013 15:28 GMT
#176
Wow all that lost online content after today.

Lots of gaming history *poof* indeed.

I guess that's the downside from internet content. It's very fragile since it costs time, manhours, money to keep it alive, while we still have papyrus documents from 1000s of years ago and stone tablets way older even.

Imagine google going bankrupt.... big part of this era's history would be gone.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
Hoon
Profile Joined December 2010
Brazil891 Posts
January 31 2013 15:29 GMT
#177
On February 01 2013 00:24 phil.ipp wrote:
lol arrested ? for what? going bankrupt? thats not a felony.

other than that, what is owed here are peanuts. 100 dollar here, maybe 500 dollar there. its not like they made millions of debt.

go search the financial crisis threads and get some perspective.

Isn't it all the subscription money from every streamer? Some more money they promised on the contract etc etc.
I'd imagine about 500$ for each player. Having 100 streamers, would result in 50k$.
Also, it's not like they never made that money. Someone took that money and didn't give it to the streamers, so own3d will shut down with their pockets full.
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Comadevil
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany214 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 15:34:55
January 31 2013 15:32 GMT
#178
On February 01 2013 00:29 Hoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 00:24 phil.ipp wrote:
lol arrested ? for what? going bankrupt? thats not a felony.

other than that, what is owed here are peanuts. 100 dollar here, maybe 500 dollar there. its not like they made millions of debt.

go search the financial crisis threads and get some perspective.

Isn't it all the subscription money from every streamer? Some more money they promised on the contract etc etc.
I'd imagine about 500$ for each player. Having 100 streamers, would result in 50k$.
Also, it's not like they never made that money. Someone took that money and didn't give it to the streamers, so own3d will shut down with their pockets full.

LOL? They are bankrupt man. They don't have the pockets full. It isn't like that u get bandwidth, transcoding servers etc for free. But everybody could watch and stream for free. Ads just didn't make enough money IMO
Even Twitch still needs venture capital. They acquired 15 million $ in September. This businesses are startups, they are not well established companies which are making tons of money
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
January 31 2013 15:40 GMT
#179
I can't say I'm sad that an inferior streaming site in so many ways has shut down, however I am really really sorry to those people who did stream there and did not or will not have time to get their videos downloaded and backed up. It is pretty tragic that the company was not more responsible to its users in letting them know this was coming and providing options for people to back up their content.

All I can say is, I welcome all of the former Own3D guys to Twitch, a much better platform, a great community, and hope that Twitch keeps charging ahead even with no one else challenging them.
Hoon
Profile Joined December 2010
Brazil891 Posts
January 31 2013 15:41 GMT
#180
On February 01 2013 00:32 Comadevil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 00:29 Hoon wrote:
On February 01 2013 00:24 phil.ipp wrote:
lol arrested ? for what? going bankrupt? thats not a felony.

other than that, what is owed here are peanuts. 100 dollar here, maybe 500 dollar there. its not like they made millions of debt.

go search the financial crisis threads and get some perspective.

Isn't it all the subscription money from every streamer? Some more money they promised on the contract etc etc.
I'd imagine about 500$ for each player. Having 100 streamers, would result in 50k$.
Also, it's not like they never made that money. Someone took that money and didn't give it to the streamers, so own3d will shut down with their pockets full.

LOL? They are bankrupt man. They don't have the pockets full. It isn't like that u get bandwidth, transcoding servers etc for free. But everybody could watch and stream for free. Ads just didn't make enough money IMO
Even Twitch still needs venture capital. They acquired 15 million $ in September. This businesses are startups, they are not well established companies which are making tons of money

Well, ok. Even if they are bankrupt, they still owe money.
It's not like you can go bankrupt and say "well, i don't have money, so I'll never pay you back".
In my country, bankrupt or not, owing people money is a legal crime.
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