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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42383 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 22:25:23
January 12 2013 21:42 GMT
#1
Didn't see topic for this yet. Khaldor tweeted about a documentary, about Korean teamhouses in Korea, called "Inside Look at Korean Starcraft II Proteams." It was released on Startale's Youtube, that can be found here.

Khaldor seems to be in a big role in Part 1 at least, where he is touring the LG-IM team house etc. Lots of interviews of different players and managers. Such as Parting, Nestea, Seed, Kang Dong-Hoon (Manager of LG-IM) and others.

Part 1:



Part 2 & 3

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If someone has more info about the whole documentary, who made it exactly and so on, feel free to let me know and i will edit the OP if necessary. After watching the first part, whole documentary seems very well done. Lots of insight and interviews.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
January 12 2013 21:45 GMT
#2
Thanks for posting, can't wait to see it.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 12 2013 21:46 GMT
#3
Just saw it tweeted, I needed this because it's definitely an area unexplored both in the Western world & Korea
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SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
January 12 2013 21:50 GMT
#4
I have to watch these when I get a chance later. Looks like it'll be interesting.
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 21:56:55
January 12 2013 21:56 GMT
#5
Oh yeah good that someone posted these here as well. Only thing I don't like about the documentary is the constant weird technodancehousemusic whatever playing in the background. No background music during interviews please, otherwise stellar stuff.
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Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
January 12 2013 21:57 GMT
#6
Oh wow that's really cool, thanks for posting it!
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CPTBadAss
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States594 Posts
January 12 2013 22:02 GMT
#7
Awesome, I was always interested in watching Artosis' tours but they didn't really give any other information. I can't to watch the interviews. Thanks for posting this!
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
January 12 2013 22:07 GMT
#8
Thanks for posting!
Moderatorlickypiddy
HappyZerGling
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Ukraine161 Posts
January 12 2013 22:11 GMT
#9
Great video, thanks!
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iaminfiniteOSL
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
63 Posts
January 12 2013 22:14 GMT
#10
This is really cool. I love when we got to see some of the koreans' personalities, which we normaly dont get to see as much.
HuK, Crank, ViOlet, Jaedong...
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
January 12 2013 22:15 GMT
#11
ohhhh thx for posting sounds interesting.

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EZjijy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1039 Posts
January 12 2013 22:30 GMT
#12
Cool documentary, but it really didn't cover much. It just interviewed players (mainly from the ST house) about their thoughts on how the pro houses work.

Nothing informative, but fun to watch nonetheless.
Chloroplaste
Profile Joined February 2011
France281 Posts
January 12 2013 22:35 GMT
#13
These are really cool and profesionnal. GG Startale and Khaldor.
bsdaemon
Profile Joined July 2012
618 Posts
January 12 2013 22:46 GMT
#14
PartinG: "I want StarCraft II to come with my name, Won Lee Sak"
umelbumel
Profile Joined January 2011
2026 Posts
January 12 2013 22:48 GMT
#15
great Documentary! thx khaldor, ST and IM.
Bibu
Profile Joined August 2010
Russian Federation163 Posts
January 12 2013 22:49 GMT
#16
tnx! its great!!!
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mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
January 12 2013 23:02 GMT
#17
this is awesome...so much insight...Korea (and eSports in general) needs to be pumping out more of these!
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Atrbyg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States513 Posts
January 12 2013 23:06 GMT
#18
Nice video. Was really fun to watch.
KirA_TheGreaT
Profile Joined April 2011
France204 Posts
January 12 2013 23:16 GMT
#19
i loved it
Flamehaze
Profile Joined May 2008
Poland67 Posts
January 12 2013 23:16 GMT
#20
"There where days I did nothing but practice on 5 hours sleep". Thats the diffrence beetwen koreans and foreigners.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
January 12 2013 23:22 GMT
#21
Really well done.

Always nice to see more of how LG-IM operates ^_^
Young Terran
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom265 Posts
January 12 2013 23:29 GMT
#22
this was an awesome, watch incredible insight, Great work Khaldor and camera man :D
Margo
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden11 Posts
January 12 2013 23:45 GMT
#23
Really interesting, Great job!
Starcraft good
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 23:48:32
January 12 2013 23:48 GMT
#24
Man.. they're very elitist towards foreigners. I totally understand, but holy hell, it's almost offensive. Very nice videos, I enjoyed them, thanks!
Refer to my post.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
January 13 2013 00:00 GMT
#25
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scgaming4
Profile Joined February 2011
United States35 Posts
January 13 2013 00:02 GMT
#26
On January 13 2013 08:16 Flamehaze wrote:
"There where days I did nothing but practice on 5 hours sleep". Thats the diffrence beetwen koreans and foreigners.

scgaming4
Profile Joined February 2011
United States35 Posts
January 13 2013 00:02 GMT
#27
On January 13 2013 08:16 Flamehaze wrote:
"There where days I did nothing but practice on 5 hours sleep". Thats the diffrence beetwen koreans and foreigners!

scgaming4
Profile Joined February 2011
United States35 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 00:03:27
January 13 2013 00:03 GMT
#28
On January 13 2013 09:02 scgaming4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 08:16 Flamehaze wrote:
"There where days I did nothing but practice on 5 hours sleep". Thats the diffrence beetwen koreans and foreigners!!


Oh yah and nestea said he has gone 24 hours
scgaming4
Profile Joined February 2011
United States35 Posts
January 13 2013 00:03 GMT
#29
On January 13 2013 08:16 Flamehaze wrote:
"There where days I did nothing but practice on 5 hours sleep". Thats the diffrence beetwen koreans and foreigners!!

scgaming4
Profile Joined February 2011
United States35 Posts
January 13 2013 00:04 GMT
#30
On January 13 2013 08:16 Flamehaze wrote:
"There where days I did nothing but practice on 5 hours sleep". Thats the diffrence beetwen koreans and foreigners!!!



User was warned for this post
scgaming4
Profile Joined February 2011
United States35 Posts
January 13 2013 00:04 GMT
#31
On January 13 2013 08:16 Flamehaze wrote:
"There where days I did nothing but practice on 5 hours sleep". Thats the diffrence beetwen koreans and foreigners.

go MVP win final GSL!
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 00:06:24
January 13 2013 00:06 GMT
#32
What's wrong with you?
Refer to my post.
scgaming4
Profile Joined February 2011
United States35 Posts
January 13 2013 00:07 GMT
#33
On January 13 2013 08:16 Flamehaze wrote:
"There where days I did nothing but practice on 5 hours sleep". Thats the diffrence beetwen koreans and foreigners..

Wein
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil452 Posts
January 13 2013 00:09 GMT
#34
Just watched, really cool.
Cinim
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark866 Posts
January 13 2013 00:17 GMT
#35
This guy keeps spamming even after a warning, I can imagine ban incoming?

Anyway, saw it and I really liked it. Also as the startale coach points out, it's really not interesting that the bracket is sometimes filled with Koreans, it's not super great for the scene.
Hell, it's about time
mataxp
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Chile538 Posts
January 13 2013 00:17 GMT
#36
I dont want to be mean or anything but I enjoyed this 30 minutes much more than Liquid Rising

This was excelent. Thank you startale and IM
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Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
January 13 2013 00:30 GMT
#37
Very cool documentary. Always good to see/hear the managers of the team.
twitter@RickyMarou
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
January 13 2013 00:35 GMT
#38
Really cool, professionally done and great content. Thanks!
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BlackPride
Profile Joined July 2012
United States186 Posts
January 13 2013 00:37 GMT
#39
Cool videos. Thanks man.
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JBanKs
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom617 Posts
January 13 2013 00:42 GMT
#40
Blizzard made it and we were able to post it on our youtube
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MarkCJ
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada239 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 00:48:10
January 13 2013 00:47 GMT
#41
These are awesome! would liked to have seen other Korean team houses like FXO, MVP, Prime etc great to see none the less
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Aikin
Profile Joined April 2010
Austria532 Posts
January 13 2013 00:49 GMT
#42
Parting He left the family.

This video made me really thankfull to Artosis again for Touring all this houses before. I still hope we will get a tour of the EG-TL house with some interviews etc.
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eqinf
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany100 Posts
January 13 2013 00:55 GMT
#43
nice done thx man
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TR
Profile Joined February 2011
2320 Posts
January 13 2013 00:59 GMT
#44
Thanks for posting. Loved it!
Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
January 13 2013 01:13 GMT
#45
On January 13 2013 08:48 Zenbrez wrote:
Man.. they're very elitist towards foreigners. I totally understand, but holy hell, it's almost offensive. Very nice videos, I enjoyed them, thanks!


Its the right attitude. They practice harder and takes SC2 way more seriously so why should they lose? Foreigners should respond by saying "Im going to practice harder than ever because you are on my turf now and you are not taking my money!" but instead they just roll over and die.
stjartrov
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden81 Posts
January 13 2013 01:27 GMT
#46
Nice documentary. While the goal of the documentary, finding out why Koreans are 'the best' seems a little funny, it feels like the true meaning was to get to know the teams a bit better. Which they achieved! Frankly I have not really given a crap about NesTea before as I started getting interested in SC2 around mars 2012, but just getting to know them a tiny bit more personally does make a lot of these players so much more interesting.

I would love it if more teams did things like this.
Thanks to those who participated and got it going!

Also <3 Khaldor aka "He's gonna have to be reeeeeaally careful here!"
DKR
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom622 Posts
January 13 2013 01:29 GMT
#47
Absolutely brilliant work Khaldor. More content like this. More love for the game.
"1 base. Cheese man." - MKP. "[MVP] is not stylistic, his style is winning, which is the style you want to have." - Artosis
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
January 13 2013 04:31 GMT
#48
Geat doc
Someone call down the Thunder?
ProV1
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States980 Posts
January 13 2013 05:12 GMT
#49
This documentary was very good.
Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
January 13 2013 05:40 GMT
#50
this is a great documentary and I start to love the Korean teams more and more. Most western teams just seem like a bunch of people working for the same company but never actually talking to each other other than hi and bye :D
Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
January 13 2013 05:43 GMT
#51
Good shit
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Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
January 13 2013 05:47 GMT
#52
Gonna watch after Proleague!
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shizaep
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2920 Posts
January 13 2013 06:01 GMT
#53
Interesting video for sure. Reminds me a bit of Artosis' tours of the pro teamhouses. Too bad he doesn't do them anymore.
And it's always interesting to see documentaries like these, it's fascinating to see how people live their lives so radically different.
You mean I just write stuff here and other people can see it?
dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
January 13 2013 06:03 GMT
#54
Woohoo I am definitely watching it tonight
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
OhThatDang
Profile Joined August 2004
United States4685 Posts
January 13 2013 10:22 GMT
#55
It'd be cool to look into the other teams like the ones without sponsors too :D! No surprise they play with pride when overseas/against foreigners these guys are insane players!!
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WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
January 13 2013 10:26 GMT
#56
Very nice documentary! Nice of Startale and LG-IM to allow this to happens.
EZ4ENCE
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
January 13 2013 10:38 GMT
#57
Man, their food looks so delicious... now I'm hungry T_T
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
January 13 2013 11:02 GMT
#58
This was fantastic. Awesome quality videos and insightful interviews
alone
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland410 Posts
January 13 2013 11:12 GMT
#59
That was rly cool! Liked the part where parting was talking about big names froms sc1 and they didnt even bother to check for propher spelling :D.
Random_Guy09
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1010 Posts
January 13 2013 11:12 GMT
#60
On January 13 2013 09:03 scgaming4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 09:02 scgaming4 wrote:
On January 13 2013 08:16 Flamehaze wrote:
"There where days I did nothing but practice on 5 hours sleep". Thats the diffrence beetwen koreans and foreigners!!


Oh yah and nestea said he has gone 24 hours


And that there is the answer to where Nestea went to when he went off the SC2 grid for a week. Korean loses to foreigners, Goes into isolation with almost no sleep and come back smashing nerds. And PartinG being a boss as always and also plugging redbull really well :D
imPermanenCe
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands595 Posts
January 13 2013 11:20 GMT
#61
I think this gives a pretty good insight on the situation. Even when they're not playing, they're talking about the game. I wonder how they can get sleep like that :D I would be devising strategies in my sleep all the time.
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Nisyax
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Netherlands756 Posts
January 13 2013 11:34 GMT
#62
Cool, waiting for part 2 Also a sudden craving for energy drinks.
crashonly
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland418 Posts
January 13 2013 12:02 GMT
#63
I can't watch this.. Is it only me that really fucking hates that style of program making? It's like one of those reality TV shows, America's top model or something. That's exactly the show that popped to my mind at 1:20 when Khaldor goes "Hey, everyone!" and that god-awful dance track starts playing >.< I did like most of the music though, at least up to 5 minutes when I stopped watching.

The interviews cut to a different perspective every 3 seconds and a different interviewee every 10 seconds. If it's not a different view of the person, we get even faster snapshots of some loosely related trophies and competition photos. That's my biggest gripe with this show I think, I can't concentrate on reading the translated text when the background switches color every so-and-so many seconds. And just concentrating on the topic and what's being said is difficult in general with that going on. Feels to me like they had too much material and too little space to jam it in, or maybe they just assume we're all high on energy drinks anyway so we won't care.
IRL_Sinister
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Ireland621 Posts
January 13 2013 12:27 GMT
#64
PartinG: We're like a family here. Liked that bit!
cutler
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany609 Posts
January 13 2013 12:32 GMT
#65
This is why i love korean Starcraft...not the EU usual answer..."i barely practise 2-3hours a month"...
Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 12:56:35
January 13 2013 12:56 GMT
#66
I've watched it already, and i really like it. The Gaming rooms looked really cool, and especially at Startale, you can see that they are really like a family.
#And nice to see Khaldor involved^^
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mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
January 13 2013 13:31 GMT
#67
by the way, is the 'House of Awesome' still up and running in Korea? Since the Liquid players living there retired, and HuK can now live in the EG house in Korea, I doubt it would be just SuperNova living there on his own :E
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
January 13 2013 13:36 GMT
#68
On January 13 2013 22:31 mikkmagro wrote:
by the way, is the 'House of Awesome' still up and running in Korea? Since the Liquid players living there retired, and HuK can now live in the EG house in Korea, I doubt it would be just SuperNova living there on his own :E


It'd be Huk, HerO and Supernova living there but HerO and HuK are living in the EG house right now. So not sure what happened to it. Maybe Supernova is just having the time of his life right now, throwing parties every day.
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 13:53:59
January 13 2013 13:53 GMT
#69
Finally had the time to watch all 3 parts, very worth it and this provided a lot of information about korean team houses.
I hope more of this kind of stuff is done in the future!
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NotoriousBig
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Germany301 Posts
January 13 2013 13:56 GMT
#70
this is really good, i watched the whole thing and normally i never watch stuuf like this completely, shows sooo good why koreans are so good compared to foreigners, or better why foreigners are so shitty compared to koreans.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
January 13 2013 14:15 GMT
#71
I remember Artosis did something similiar 1 year ago or also, interesting to see how thing went through after all that.
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Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
January 13 2013 14:29 GMT
#72
I always wanted to see one of these, thanks !
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
January 13 2013 14:45 GMT
#73
It was great. Thanks.
WerderBremen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany1070 Posts
January 13 2013 15:34 GMT
#74
Just finished watching, it was a great pleasure to watch. IMO its absolutely awesome.
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Chrono000
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Korea (South)358 Posts
January 13 2013 17:25 GMT
#75
Wow this was a great source of information!!
Genie1
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada333 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 22:18:35
January 13 2013 22:16 GMT
#76
After watching those videos I would have to say there is a huge difference in why they are so skilled at the game Starcraft 2. It's because they put time and effort towards something they love to do. Even some of them had to convince there parents that it is worth it and they did show it was worth it.

It is a very good point on why they have team houses and why they are so good because of the practice environment they have set themselves up in while others outside of South Korea mostly still just practice from home and don't get very far and do fall off after awhile once they hit there prime because they don't have constant advice at there side and have to review replays on there own and have to see if they can spot there mistakes and correct them.

I believe if foreigners plan to win more is that they set themselves up like the Koreans have and they will be more successful in the game Starcraft 2 otherwise if they continue down the path of not having a team house which has been proven to be a very good way of improving yourself for Starcraft 2. Yes times will be hard with money and will accumulate debt but that's the cost of trying to be successful in E-Sports and securing yourself a sponsor that will make it easier to rise to the top.
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movac
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada494 Posts
January 16 2013 05:47 GMT
#77
Did anyone else notice that when LG-IM coach was being interviewed, there's a trophy in the background that looks like the MLG Providence 2011 trophy. As far as I know that was the only MLG there they made a trophy that looks like that and Leenock was the one that won it. You can see the trophy I'm talking about at the 5:36 mark. Did another tournament make an identical looking trophy?
BigKahunaBurger
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia334 Posts
January 20 2013 01:25 GMT
#78
Coach Kang has the pimpest fucking earring.

Great to see they're transparent with the money situation in these teams, with almost all sponsorship dollars said to be going to the players.

Imagine if failed teams like ApeX and mTw had that. IMAGINE.
warshop
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada490 Posts
January 20 2013 01:32 GMT
#79
The automatic captions are actually quite funny:

"and then suddenly you're in the event the studio and you see them in prison"
TotalNightmare
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Germany139 Posts
January 20 2013 01:41 GMT
#80
When I misred the title I was so very confused to what could possibly be so interesting about Korean treehouses...
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