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Brackets for 2013 GSL Season 1 Up&Down Matches - Page 5

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Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
December 28 2012 08:57 GMT
#81
Jaedong vs flash?! I might have to stay up all night just to watch this on the live stream.
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 28 2012 08:58 GMT
#82
On December 28 2012 17:53 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 17:48 BoReDWiTHLiFe wrote:
Actually, after taking a second look at the groups, almost every group has an MVP player too. Looks like the only teamkills that will be happening during the Up/Down games will be LG-IM, and that's only because they have more players then there are groups. I wonder if avoiding GOM was intentionally trying to avoid team-kills?


I think this is likely. Same with spreading the Kespa players out as well.


Also the racial spread, Flash v Jaedong, Nestea and Huk getting an easy group (in comparison).

Doesn't really look random at all.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 28 2012 08:59 GMT
#83
On December 28 2012 17:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 17:52 RPR_Tempest wrote:
NaNiwa would have been a better choice for a seed than HuK, IMO.

However, Code S seeds still haven't been revealed. I feel like NaNiwa might get one, and now would be the perfect time for Stephano to FINALLY accept his.


Wait, there's still Code S seeds? -_-
I hope Kespa people get them, no foreigner besides Stephano deserves Code S. And we all know he's not gonna do it.


Yes, there are 20 players in Code S right now. And 10 spots will be granted in the 5 U&D spots. So there are 2 spots remaining for the seeds.

Honestly, I would not want Kespa players to get them because they all had a shot at it already. Assuming Stephano doesn't take a seed, since these U&Ds are so stacked, maybe another group play with the 5 players that finish 3rd in these groups.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
December 28 2012 08:59 GMT
#84
When the next GSL starts in mid-January, Stephano will be in Korea. Let's see if he gets (and accepts) a Code S seed.
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ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
December 28 2012 09:00 GMT
#85
If grubby had 3 other p's in his group instead of these z's, he would have a great chance to advance! Groups A & D are looking really promising.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
December 28 2012 09:00 GMT
#86
On December 28 2012 17:59 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 17:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 28 2012 17:52 RPR_Tempest wrote:
NaNiwa would have been a better choice for a seed than HuK, IMO.

However, Code S seeds still haven't been revealed. I feel like NaNiwa might get one, and now would be the perfect time for Stephano to FINALLY accept his.


Wait, there's still Code S seeds? -_-
I hope Kespa people get them, no foreigner besides Stephano deserves Code S. And we all know he's not gonna do it.


Yes, there are 20 players in Code S right now. And 10 spots will be granted in the 5 U&D spots. So there are 2 spots remaining for the seeds.

Honestly, I would not want Kespa players to get them because they all had a shot at it already. Assuming Stephano doesn't take a seed, since these U&Ds are so stacked, maybe another group play with the 5 players that finish 3rd in these groups.


Yeah that'd be the best solution, didn't think of that.
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Opera
Profile Joined March 2011
France469 Posts
December 28 2012 09:01 GMT
#87
On December 28 2012 17:59 Proseat wrote:
When the next GSL starts in mid-January, Stephano will be in Korea. Let's see if he gets (and accepts) a Code S seed.

I hope that EG will have him stay in Korea playing GSL and Proleague. The two (three ?) times he went to Korea to train, he came back stronger. If he stays for several months, he will be sick good.
It ain't over till it's over
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 28 2012 09:03 GMT
#88
On December 28 2012 17:58 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 17:53 vthree wrote:
On December 28 2012 17:48 BoReDWiTHLiFe wrote:
Actually, after taking a second look at the groups, almost every group has an MVP player too. Looks like the only teamkills that will be happening during the Up/Down games will be LG-IM, and that's only because they have more players then there are groups. I wonder if avoiding GOM was intentionally trying to avoid team-kills?


I think this is likely. Same with spreading the Kespa players out as well.


Also the racial spread, Flash v Jaedong, Nestea and Huk getting an easy group (in comparison).

Doesn't really look random at all.


Actually, I am ok with non 100% random. For example, if they have rules like

1) Can't have 3 members of the same team
2) Can't have 3 Kespa players
3) Can't have 4 of the same race

I am actually ok with that. Leagues like champions league etc also have rules about not facing clubs in the same country in Ro16, etc.

Of course, if they proposedly place JD and Flash in same group. Or make some groups 'weaker' on purpose, that would not be ok.
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
December 28 2012 09:05 GMT
#89
wow... the first time ever I have seen all Up/Down groups contain the maximum of 6 players.

There are going to be very long nights.
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Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
December 28 2012 09:05 GMT
#90
HOOOLY HELL GROUP A!! Can't wait! Shame FLash vs JD is a single best of one. For all we know Jaedong will 6 pool and Flash will 14 CC :p


As far as the foreign seeds go, I don't understand. Grubby, maybe, but Huk hasn't done anything remotely impressive lately. There are many other foreigners more worthy of a seed than him.
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 28 2012 09:06 GMT
#91
On December 28 2012 18:03 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 17:58 Talin wrote:
On December 28 2012 17:53 vthree wrote:
On December 28 2012 17:48 BoReDWiTHLiFe wrote:
Actually, after taking a second look at the groups, almost every group has an MVP player too. Looks like the only teamkills that will be happening during the Up/Down games will be LG-IM, and that's only because they have more players then there are groups. I wonder if avoiding GOM was intentionally trying to avoid team-kills?


I think this is likely. Same with spreading the Kespa players out as well.


Also the racial spread, Flash v Jaedong, Nestea and Huk getting an easy group (in comparison).

Doesn't really look random at all.


Actually, I am ok with non 100% random. For example, if they have rules like

1) Can't have 3 members of the same team
2) Can't have 3 Kespa players
3) Can't have 4 of the same race


IMO only the same race rule is acceptable there. Other two are still staging the groups to benefit players and/or their organizations, and other players can still get shafted in the process.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 28 2012 09:07 GMT
#92
On December 28 2012 18:05 Havik_ wrote:
HOOOLY HELL GROUP A!! Can't wait! Shame FLash vs JD is a single best of one. For all we know Jaedong will 6 pool and Flash will 14 CC :p


As far as the foreign seeds go, I don't understand. Grubby, maybe, but Huk hasn't done anything remotely impressive lately. There are many other foreigners more worthy of a seed than him.


Yes, but how many of them are willing to stay in Korea for 2-3 months? Would Scarlett, Snute be willing?
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 28 2012 09:07 GMT
#93
On December 28 2012 17:57 Dubzex wrote:
Jaedong vs flash?! I might have to stay up all night just to watch this on the live stream.


Might...?
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Mariosatr
Profile Joined September 2012
294 Posts
December 28 2012 09:08 GMT
#94
On December 28 2012 18:05 Havik_ wrote:
HOOOLY HELL GROUP A!! Can't wait! Shame FLash vs JD is a single best of one. For all we know Jaedong will 6 pool and Flash will 14 CC :p


As far as the foreign seeds go, I don't understand. Grubby, maybe, but Huk hasn't done anything remotely impressive lately. There are many other foreigners more worthy of a seed than him.

HuK's been trying to qualify for a while, making it to the last round of Code B last season, only to get beaten by TaiLs. I'm sure if he didn't get a seed, he would try to qualify, and it would seem a bit unfair if someone else got a free ticket ahead of him.
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MarcusWC
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada55 Posts
December 28 2012 09:08 GMT
#95
I'm going to be watching the gsl again Really hoping for Huk and Grubby to do well.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 09:11:46
December 28 2012 09:10 GMT
#96
On December 28 2012 18:08 Mariosatr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 18:05 Havik_ wrote:
HOOOLY HELL GROUP A!! Can't wait! Shame FLash vs JD is a single best of one. For all we know Jaedong will 6 pool and Flash will 14 CC :p


As far as the foreign seeds go, I don't understand. Grubby, maybe, but Huk hasn't done anything remotely impressive lately. There are many other foreigners more worthy of a seed than him.

HuK's been trying to qualify for a while, making it to the last round of Code B last season, only to get beaten by TaiLs. I'm sure if he didn't get a seed, he would try to qualify, and it would seem a bit unfair if someone else got a free ticket ahead of him.


Well... TLO made it to the final round of Code B and went out 1-2. In terms of gameplay AND results in the qualifiers, he deserves the seed more. Not saying he should get it. IMO nobody should get any seeds.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Chenz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1197 Posts
December 28 2012 09:10 GMT
#97
On December 28 2012 17:58 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 17:53 vthree wrote:
On December 28 2012 17:48 BoReDWiTHLiFe wrote:
Actually, after taking a second look at the groups, almost every group has an MVP player too. Looks like the only teamkills that will be happening during the Up/Down games will be LG-IM, and that's only because they have more players then there are groups. I wonder if avoiding GOM was intentionally trying to avoid team-kills?


I think this is likely. Same with spreading the Kespa players out as well.


Also the racial spread, Flash v Jaedong, Nestea and Huk getting an easy group (in comparison).

Doesn't really look random at all.

You can't realistically draw any conclusion on groups being random or not from this sample size. I highly doubt they're intentionally giving anyone an easy group.
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
December 28 2012 09:12 GMT
#98
C & D are so ridiculously hard and A & B aren't far behind.

I think C has the most players who could make good runs at the GSL title, but D is overall the hardest group, especially if you play Protoss.


Grubby got a really hard group, Huk's is easier but I don't think he can make it out either, it's the easiest group but there a still a lot of good players in it, finale is probably MVPs best Protoss, Nestea is the king of the universe and Fantasy and Flying are regulars in pro-league even though their team's lineups are stronger than EG-TL.
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
December 28 2012 09:12 GMT
#99
These groups are absolutely ridiculous. Best U&D groups ever, probably.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 28 2012 09:12 GMT
#100
On December 28 2012 18:06 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 18:03 vthree wrote:
On December 28 2012 17:58 Talin wrote:
On December 28 2012 17:53 vthree wrote:
On December 28 2012 17:48 BoReDWiTHLiFe wrote:
Actually, after taking a second look at the groups, almost every group has an MVP player too. Looks like the only teamkills that will be happening during the Up/Down games will be LG-IM, and that's only because they have more players then there are groups. I wonder if avoiding GOM was intentionally trying to avoid team-kills?


I think this is likely. Same with spreading the Kespa players out as well.


Also the racial spread, Flash v Jaedong, Nestea and Huk getting an easy group (in comparison).

Doesn't really look random at all.


Actually, I am ok with non 100% random. For example, if they have rules like

1) Can't have 3 members of the same team
2) Can't have 3 Kespa players
3) Can't have 4 of the same race


IMO only the same race rule is acceptable there. Other two are still staging the groups to benefit players and/or their organizations, and other players can still get shafted in the process.


Well, if you want to get technical, even the race rule can play a factor in the 'fairness'. Say a Protoss is really good in PvP. Would it be 'fair' that just because of the rule, he can't get 3 other Ps in his group?

At the end of the day, since each group has 6 players, the rules don't really play a huge role. It is actually more 'fair' this way. Let's say IM had 4 players in a group. And the 3 others all lost to Nestea, there would be 'theories' on how IM did it on 'purpose' so Nestea could get into Code S.
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