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Rollies
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom29 Posts
December 18 2012 14:35 GMT
#1261
Ah the worst week ever, scored 9 points on both my main and anti team,
FnaticPink
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark324 Posts
December 18 2012 14:37 GMT
#1262
I think it makes little to no sense that you cant lose (gain points for anti) points for players. Because then you just take the ones that dont appear that week and it takes most strategy and fun out of it. I'd really prefer it if there was risk / reward with going with players on your anti team that are schedueled to appear the following week.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12047 Posts
December 18 2012 14:37 GMT
#1263
Out of interest did I join the Forum Veterans group or did it put me in there down to when I made my account?

I only just realised I was in it :p
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Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
December 18 2012 15:04 GMT
#1264
I've got the worst Anti-Team of the Top 100 Anyway here is my weekly recap :

Previous posts : + Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler [Initial Team] +
Team : [image loading]Woongjin Stars - 3p

I didn't want to go anywhere near Rain's family, nor did I think that EG-TL would crush face like TL writers expect them to. So among the rest, I had to choose between Woongjin, Samsung and STX. Even though Khan was a finalist last season, they have the team with the least impressive individual results so far and they cost 4 instead of 3 for the two other so it was eliminate there. Soul have the best individual players on paper ((T)Bogus and (T)Last) but the mastery Stars showed in the first round of the last PL made me fan. 2 of their players qualified for Code A, (T)sin doing it against zergs including someone named Vampire, aka Sniper's clone; while 3 of them also reach the finals ((P)free, (P)BisAnG, (Z)ZerO). Not to mention (P)sHy and (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey were in Code S. This team has tremendous potential with a whole bunch of youngsters.

Captain : (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey - 8p

Players :
  • (T)Bbyong - 4p
  • (Z)ZerO - 4p
  • (P)Wooki - 3p
  • (P)JangBi - 5p
  • (T)hOn_sin - 3p

Among the players that were in Code S this season and who went down to Code A, (T)Bbyong is the cheapest (4p) and the fact that he will likely share ace matches with Effort which makes him a wise pick. Then I wanted another reliable player for a decent price a protoss would have been best but none were that impressive for 4p. (Z)ZerO and (Z)Shine both fill that spot but I couldn't decide yet.

After that I wished to pick 2 protosses because in Bo1, those are always a good thing to have so one under 3p among {(P)BisAnG,(P)free,(P)Wooki} and one over 5p among {(P)Trap (P)Stork,(P)Flying,(P)JangBi} was a good move for me. I believe BisAnG is the best player among the 1p players, his ability to reach Code B finals twice in a row (losing to win-hungry San in the last one) tells me that, however I don't think he is ranked that highly in his team and he shouldn't see that much playing time yet. As such I picked a combination that was likely to play often and which one of them will do well : [Wooki,JangBi].

Lastly I wanted a terran but they are either WAY too costly for what they are {(T)Bogus, (T)Last, (T)Flash, (T)BaBy} or their level is quite unknown like {(T)PuMa, (T)ThorZaIN, (T)hOn_sin, (T)Classic}. I was determined to pick of the last group and decided to go for (T)hOn_sin just because he his almost guaranteed to win his game against a totally unknown player who will be hard pressed to cheese on a map like Arkanoid.

Anti - team :
  • (P)BeSt - 6p
  • (T)sKyHigh - 4p
  • (Z)Zenio - 3p

I am not sure BeSt will have a bad season/day but in the bigger scheme of things, I have to avoid picking against teams that I think could win in the end and he weights quite a few points in a team where he will end up behind Rain all the freaking time anf if Bisu comes back well, he can almost kiss his spot good bye. (T)sKyHigh looks like an overrated player in a team that won more on BW than on SC2 last time and (Z)Zenio has been slumping for a while and with the recruitment of Jaedong, he will go after him in the line-up.


+ Show Spoiler [1st Week Wrap-up] +
Team : [image loading]Woongjin Stars (-1p) Tough first week for WS with a 1-4 defeat. But with T8 as the only cheaper team, I have to trust myself on this one. To Keep

Captain : (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey (0p) Lost his match against Bbyong but should do well in the future.

Players :
  • (T)Bbyong (4p) Won his match against Soulkey confirming his Code A results. Keeper
  • (Z)ZerO (0p) Dissapointing loss on a Terran favored map. Likely to be traded
  • (P)Wooki (4p) Satisfying win for a protoss that should see regular play. Keeper
  • (P)JangBi (0p) I was expecting more from him. On probation
  • (T)hOn_sin (1p) Didn't play but was on the line-up. Undecided

Anti - team :
  • (P)BeSt (4p) I was expecting him to be the contrary of JangBi, but that's not the case. Likely to be traded
  • (T)sKyHigh (4p) Apparently not as bad as foreseen. On probation
  • (Z)Zenio (0p) Seemed completely lost against Flash. Keeper


+ Show Spoiler [1st Week Trades & 2nd Week Preview] +
I decided not to trade anyone for this first week after seeing the match-ups :
  • Bbyong is likely going to stay on my line-up for a while. He can go 2-0 this week and 1-1 at worst.
  • ZerO was playing BeSt so I decided to trust him once more, and ends up locking both on the lineup. The risk of ZerO going 1-1 is high because he plays Flash in the second part of the week but BeSt plays him and BaBy and I expect BaBy to crush BeSt granting me a potentiel 0-2 for BeSt this week.
  • Wooki should win against Sang and free, continuing to make a strong impression on everyone.
  • Sin is too cheap to be traded right now, though I thought about trading him for Mind but they face each other on the second part of week one and decided not to risk the trade penalty for that.
  • JangBi has to perform against Dear because he won't against TaeJa. His stock is falling rapidly and I might have to trade him for a lesser protoss in a more successful team.
  • sKyHigh is only playing one match and I think Last has what it takes to crush him. Zenio is in a similar situation playing only RorO.


Team : [image loading]Woongjin Stars (10p) Great week for WJS with a weel earned 4-3 win over SKT and a quick 4-0 over KT. It's too bad they lost against CJ on the first day because with that level of play I can see them winning all the remaining matches. Next week will be tough with a EG-TL team that is looking for points and an under-performing STX that is bound to bounce up eventually. Keeper

Captain : (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey (14p) He isn't one of the few KeSPA Code S by accident. He won all of games including a Ace Match and is riding a 3-0 streak.

Players :
  • (T)Bbyong (5p) Lost against Jaedong but won against Trap. He may not be as powerful as I thought be he certainly delivers, plus he is on a team that keeps on winning. Keeper
  • (Z)ZerO (8p) HOLY SHIT BATMAN ! I was wondering why the WJS kept on playing him on Bifrost, well he single-handedly proved that Bifrost isn't a Terran favored map. He earned his spot until the end. Keeper
  • (P)Wooki (5p) A win once again for this up-and-coming protoss. The only bad point about him is that he plays on KT. Keeper
  • (P)JangBi (1p) My biggest disappointment so farn and it is doubled by the fact that Samsung Khan plays terribly as a whole. The trade possibilities aren't that huge but I need to make the most out of his spot before it's too late. Traded
  • (T)hOn_sin (8p) He may not be the cleanest player out there but he gets shits done. No wonder he is ahead of Light right now. Keeper

Anti - team :
  • (P)BeSt (4p) I wanted to trade him for Stephano last week but couldn't because he was too high (0.62p too much if I remember correctly) and now he continues to win when it matters. Traded
  • (T)sKyHigh (2p) Apparently not as bad as foreseen. Traded
  • (Z)Zenio (4p) Wasn't fielded against CJ but won against RorO, Traded

All in all, awesome week for my main team (aside for JangBi) and terrible week for my anti-team. I'll wait for the line-ups to be revealed to do my trades but JangBi is out and so is one on my anti-team.
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
December 18 2012 15:17 GMT
#1265
I doubt you'll be able to get something more useful than JangBi trading him now (I have the same problem), at least he consistently plays.
I think esports is pretty nice.
fcgog
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom876 Posts
December 18 2012 15:23 GMT
#1266
last is killing me on my anti team forgot to trade him last time for stephano now his value is to high to trade
spelhus
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany52 Posts
December 18 2012 15:26 GMT
#1267
herO is my hero. I want this icon so badly.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 15:52:53
December 18 2012 15:47 GMT
#1268
I wish retired players actually got their trade values locked.
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
1ManArmy
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands895 Posts
December 18 2012 16:25 GMT
#1269
I got stats and zero in my antiteam. Which one should i trade for Hyvaa (or shouldn't i do this? )
Wouldst thou receive my all-in, cousin? - Choya
Assorted_Needles
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands5 Posts
December 18 2012 16:48 GMT
#1270
I am very glad i took herO as my captain, the most point rewarding player as of yet.

But Samsung Khan and Jangbi are letting me down. 1 point for both Samsung and Jangbi combined, really? Guess I should have traded Samsung for Stars. I am not going to trade them now for T8. Baby on my anti cost me 6 points in the first week, but after that he fortunately didn't win anymore games. Maybe a should take this chance now and trade him for Shy.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
December 18 2012 17:37 GMT
#1271
Wow these 4-0's man, when will they stop LOL
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 18 2012 17:40 GMT
#1272
WHY DID I ANTI-TEAM JAEDONG
AdministratorBreak the chains
andrea20
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada441 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 17:57:25
December 18 2012 17:41 GMT
#1273
Third place! #1 for main team, but Soo is absolutely killing me

Whatever, I'll take it!
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
December 18 2012 17:52 GMT
#1274
Man, I would be doing so good if it weren't for my anti-team
Have 49 points for Team, and -17 for Anti-team. (Jaehoon - 8, Reality - 6, Light - 2)
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Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
December 18 2012 18:07 GMT
#1275
WHY JYP WHY! ALL THOSE GSTL FAILURES AND NOW YOU ANTI-TEAM ME!
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
December 18 2012 18:17 GMT
#1276
On December 19 2012 00:04 Otolia wrote:
I've got the worst Anti-Team of the Top 100 Anyway here is my weekly recap :

Previous posts : + Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler [Initial Team] +
Team : [image loading]Woongjin Stars - 3p

I didn't want to go anywhere near Rain's family, nor did I think that EG-TL would crush face like TL writers expect them to. So among the rest, I had to choose between Woongjin, Samsung and STX. Even though Khan was a finalist last season, they have the team with the least impressive individual results so far and they cost 4 instead of 3 for the two other so it was eliminate there. Soul have the best individual players on paper ((T)Bogus and (T)Last) but the mastery Stars showed in the first round of the last PL made me fan. 2 of their players qualified for Code A, (T)sin doing it against zergs including someone named Vampire, aka Sniper's clone; while 3 of them also reach the finals ((P)free, (P)BisAnG, (Z)ZerO). Not to mention (P)sHy and (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey were in Code S. This team has tremendous potential with a whole bunch of youngsters.

Captain : (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey - 8p

Players :
  • (T)Bbyong - 4p
  • (Z)ZerO - 4p
  • (P)Wooki - 3p
  • (P)JangBi - 5p
  • (T)hOn_sin - 3p

Among the players that were in Code S this season and who went down to Code A, (T)Bbyong is the cheapest (4p) and the fact that he will likely share ace matches with Effort which makes him a wise pick. Then I wanted another reliable player for a decent price a protoss would have been best but none were that impressive for 4p. (Z)ZerO and (Z)Shine both fill that spot but I couldn't decide yet.

After that I wished to pick 2 protosses because in Bo1, those are always a good thing to have so one under 3p among {(P)BisAnG,(P)free,(P)Wooki} and one over 5p among {(P)Trap (P)Stork,(P)Flying,(P)JangBi} was a good move for me. I believe BisAnG is the best player among the 1p players, his ability to reach Code B finals twice in a row (losing to win-hungry San in the last one) tells me that, however I don't think he is ranked that highly in his team and he shouldn't see that much playing time yet. As such I picked a combination that was likely to play often and which one of them will do well : [Wooki,JangBi].

Lastly I wanted a terran but they are either WAY too costly for what they are {(T)Bogus, (T)Last, (T)Flash, (T)BaBy} or their level is quite unknown like {(T)PuMa, (T)ThorZaIN, (T)hOn_sin, (T)Classic}. I was determined to pick of the last group and decided to go for (T)hOn_sin just because he his almost guaranteed to win his game against a totally unknown player who will be hard pressed to cheese on a map like Arkanoid.

Anti - team :
  • (P)BeSt - 6p
  • (T)sKyHigh - 4p
  • (Z)Zenio - 3p

I am not sure BeSt will have a bad season/day but in the bigger scheme of things, I have to avoid picking against teams that I think could win in the end and he weights quite a few points in a team where he will end up behind Rain all the freaking time anf if Bisu comes back well, he can almost kiss his spot good bye. (T)sKyHigh looks like an overrated player in a team that won more on BW than on SC2 last time and (Z)Zenio has been slumping for a while and with the recruitment of Jaedong, he will go after him in the line-up.


+ Show Spoiler [1st Week Wrap-up] +
Team : [image loading]Woongjin Stars (-1p) Tough first week for WS with a 1-4 defeat. But with T8 as the only cheaper team, I have to trust myself on this one. To Keep

Captain : (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey (0p) Lost his match against Bbyong but should do well in the future.

Players :
  • (T)Bbyong (4p) Won his match against Soulkey confirming his Code A results. Keeper
  • (Z)ZerO (0p) Dissapointing loss on a Terran favored map. Likely to be traded
  • (P)Wooki (4p) Satisfying win for a protoss that should see regular play. Keeper
  • (P)JangBi (0p) I was expecting more from him. On probation
  • (T)hOn_sin (1p) Didn't play but was on the line-up. Undecided

Anti - team :
  • (P)BeSt (4p) I was expecting him to be the contrary of JangBi, but that's not the case. Likely to be traded
  • (T)sKyHigh (4p) Apparently not as bad as foreseen. On probation
  • (Z)Zenio (0p) Seemed completely lost against Flash. Keeper


+ Show Spoiler [1st Week Trades & 2nd Week Preview] +
I decided not to trade anyone for this first week after seeing the match-ups :
  • Bbyong is likely going to stay on my line-up for a while. He can go 2-0 this week and 1-1 at worst.
  • ZerO was playing BeSt so I decided to trust him once more, and ends up locking both on the lineup. The risk of ZerO going 1-1 is high because he plays Flash in the second part of the week but BeSt plays him and BaBy and I expect BaBy to crush BeSt granting me a potentiel 0-2 for BeSt this week.
  • Wooki should win against Sang and free, continuing to make a strong impression on everyone.
  • Sin is too cheap to be traded right now, though I thought about trading him for Mind but they face each other on the second part of week one and decided not to risk the trade penalty for that.
  • JangBi has to perform against Dear because he won't against TaeJa. His stock is falling rapidly and I might have to trade him for a lesser protoss in a more successful team.
  • sKyHigh is only playing one match and I think Last has what it takes to crush him. Zenio is in a similar situation playing only RorO.


Team : [image loading]Woongjin Stars (10p) Great week for WJS with a weel earned 4-3 win over SKT and a quick 4-0 over KT. It's too bad they lost against CJ on the first day because with that level of play I can see them winning all the remaining matches. Next week will be tough with a EG-TL team that is looking for points and an under-performing STX that is bound to bounce up eventually. Keeper

Captain : (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey (14p) He isn't one of the few KeSPA Code S by accident. He won all of games including a Ace Match and is riding a 3-0 streak.

Players :
  • (T)Bbyong (5p) Lost against Jaedong but won against Trap. He may not be as powerful as I thought be he certainly delivers, plus he is on a team that keeps on winning. Keeper
  • (Z)ZerO (8p) HOLY SHIT BATMAN ! I was wondering why the WJS kept on playing him on Bifrost, well he single-handedly proved that Bifrost isn't a Terran favored map. He earned his spot until the end. Keeper
  • (P)Wooki (5p) A win once again for this up-and-coming protoss. The only bad point about him is that he plays on KT. Keeper
  • (P)JangBi (1p) My biggest disappointment so farn and it is doubled by the fact that Samsung Khan plays terribly as a whole. The trade possibilities aren't that huge but I need to make the most out of his spot before it's too late. Traded
  • (T)hOn_sin (8p) He may not be the cleanest player out there but he gets shits done. No wonder he is ahead of Light right now. Keeper

Anti - team :
  • (P)BeSt (4p) I wanted to trade him for Stephano last week but couldn't because he was too high (0.62p too much if I remember correctly) and now he continues to win when it matters. Traded
  • (T)sKyHigh (2p) Apparently not as bad as foreseen. Traded
  • (Z)Zenio (4p) Wasn't fielded against CJ but won against RorO, Traded

All in all, awesome week for my main team (aside for JangBi) and terrible week for my anti-team. I'll wait for the line-ups to be revealed to do my trades but JangBi is out and so is one on my anti-team.

I wouldn't jump the gun on ditching Zenio on anti if I were you. He had ample time to prep for Roro while Roro (the clear ace of the team) had to prep for multiple matches on multiple maps. I'd get rid of one of the other two first and while paying close attention to how EG-TL plans to use Zenio in the future.
nmetasch
Profile Joined April 2012
United States600 Posts
December 18 2012 18:20 GMT
#1277
OMfg so messed up! I can't get soulkey off my antiteam because his points raised so high!
Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
December 18 2012 18:30 GMT
#1278
sucks that im now "stuck" with sea on a shitty value, have no idea which of the possible replacements would be the wisest, someone on CJ seems a good idea...
also really happy with Jaehoon, now if taeja and hero stay in korea for a bit and win some more then i can maybe trade them off for others when they start travelling again
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 18:40:27
December 18 2012 18:36 GMT
#1279
Lol the value of my team is terrible.. and now hyvaa and zenio start winning games? fml

what happened to clam btw? 7 points, he's just aweful huh?

edit: oh. captain..
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
December 18 2012 18:47 GMT
#1280
On December 18 2012 23:33 R1CH wrote:
Today's update is done, and trading is open. Please let me know ASAP if anything seems wrong!

Mind is linked to
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/0
instead of
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/146_Mind
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
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