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ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-17 00:34:12
November 17 2012 00:34 GMT
#61
On November 17 2012 09:02 AnomalySC2 wrote:
Sucks ((((

Esports needs a fresh injection of players and sponsors.

Hell no, there are already way too many players.
No Mvp, no care. ~ the King will be back | Shawn Ray, Kevin Levrone, Phil Heath |
Gyro_SC2
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada540 Posts
November 17 2012 00:35 GMT
#62
On November 17 2012 02:23 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 02:17 Quakie wrote:
Has said it before, but what is it about these french unstable teams(with the exception of Millenium)?

Millenium is HUGE in France. EG in the USA is a joke compared to Millenium in France (Yesterday they got 4K viewers during 3 hours for a multi-esports event with good players and some viewers) This fact makes in very difficult for upcoming teams to get money.



LOL

wingsofdeathx is 16K easy by himself.

Sc2 is really dying :D

User was warned for this post
F-Decoy
Profile Joined June 2011
France245 Posts
November 17 2012 00:38 GMT
#63
You can't compare EG and M, since EG is sharing the US market with many other teams while M is alone at pro level in France.
That being said, I really hope one day we'll have another "M-like" teams in France, since alone it's really hard to promote eSport.

@Topic: sad for players.
ECHOZs
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States499 Posts
November 17 2012 00:43 GMT
#64
Really sucks for Sage he is such a underrated player. Would love to see him go to TL and he fits the criteria quite well.
Demicore
Profile Joined October 2011
France503 Posts
November 17 2012 00:47 GMT
#65
Really bummed about that, Jérémy looks like a good guy.
"I love male nipples in starcraft; the two go together so well." ~Tasteless
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
November 17 2012 00:47 GMT
#66
On November 17 2012 02:23 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 02:17 Quakie wrote:
Has said it before, but what is it about these french unstable teams(with the exception of Millenium)?

Millenium is HUGE in France. EG in the USA is a joke compared to Millenium in France (Yesterday they got 4K viewers during 3 hours for a multi-esports event with good players and some viewers) This fact makes in very difficult for upcoming teams to get money.


Millenium can't be that huge otherwise they would have been able to afford stephano, the pride of france. They may be huge relative to france, but small potatoes compared to EG.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 17 2012 01:00 GMT
#67
Could be a good chance for another foreigner team to pick up Sage. Here's hoping it's Dignitas to patch up their lineup.
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Sylfyre
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia222 Posts
November 17 2012 01:04 GMT
#68
=( sucks for AltTab, it's interesting that Eclypsia is trying to repair their image actively through a merger.
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-17 01:25:52
November 17 2012 01:21 GMT
#69
On November 17 2012 08:59 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 02:42 Megabuster123 wrote:
4k isn't enough to call EG a joke in comparison...>_>

EG gets way more than that during the masters cup.


Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 05:32 Qwyn wrote:
I highly doubt that. Equivalent, maybe. But EG is most definitely not a "joke." They set a very high standard.

I wonder why Stephano went to EG?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......

EG is nothing compared to Millenium in term of market penetration. The hold they have on the french market is higher than the hold that EG has on the USA. They have an minimum of 2K viewers every single day from 20:00 to 00:00.

To compare numbers : onemoregame.TV has 25M total viewers whereas MilleniumTV1 has 40M. And the first one has a multinational audience while Millenium has only a francophone audience (mostly european)

EG is a vastly richer team than Millenium but they have the biggest market in the world, still they don't have the same kind of penetration. And Millenium isn't even doing a good job at marketing themselves at the french public ...


The USA market is way, way bigger than the French market. It's not really fair to try and compare to a much smaller base. Head to head, EG is just way bigger than millenium. edit: and it's a pretty good point too that the USA market is well saturated with other competing brands.
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
November 17 2012 01:43 GMT
#70
On November 17 2012 10:21 rd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 08:59 Otolia wrote:
On November 17 2012 02:42 Megabuster123 wrote:
4k isn't enough to call EG a joke in comparison...>_>

EG gets way more than that during the masters cup.


On November 17 2012 05:32 Qwyn wrote:
I highly doubt that. Equivalent, maybe. But EG is most definitely not a "joke." They set a very high standard.

I wonder why Stephano went to EG?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......

EG is nothing compared to Millenium in term of market penetration. The hold they have on the french market is higher than the hold that EG has on the USA. They have an minimum of 2K viewers every single day from 20:00 to 00:00.

To compare numbers : onemoregame.TV has 25M total viewers whereas MilleniumTV1 has 40M. And the first one has a multinational audience while Millenium has only a francophone audience (mostly european)

EG is a vastly richer team than Millenium but they have the biggest market in the world, still they don't have the same kind of penetration. And Millenium isn't even doing a good job at marketing themselves at the french public ...


The USA market is way, way bigger than the French market. It's not really fair to try and compare to a much smaller base. Head to head, EG is just way bigger than millenium. edit: and it's a pretty good point too that the USA market is well saturated with other competing brands.

But the point from the beginning was relative hold on their respective markets. The discussion was never about absolute wealth or size. It is as fair as comparing any other relative values. You just need to know what is being compared and not suffer from knee-jerk reactions because someone said EG is smaller.
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-17 02:14:41
November 17 2012 02:07 GMT
#71
On November 17 2012 10:43 mcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 10:21 rd wrote:
On November 17 2012 08:59 Otolia wrote:
On November 17 2012 02:42 Megabuster123 wrote:
4k isn't enough to call EG a joke in comparison...>_>

EG gets way more than that during the masters cup.


On November 17 2012 05:32 Qwyn wrote:
I highly doubt that. Equivalent, maybe. But EG is most definitely not a "joke." They set a very high standard.

I wonder why Stephano went to EG?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......

EG is nothing compared to Millenium in term of market penetration. The hold they have on the french market is higher than the hold that EG has on the USA. They have an minimum of 2K viewers every single day from 20:00 to 00:00.

To compare numbers : onemoregame.TV has 25M total viewers whereas MilleniumTV1 has 40M. And the first one has a multinational audience while Millenium has only a francophone audience (mostly european)

EG is a vastly richer team than Millenium but they have the biggest market in the world, still they don't have the same kind of penetration. And Millenium isn't even doing a good job at marketing themselves at the french public ...


The USA market is way, way bigger than the French market. It's not really fair to try and compare to a much smaller base. Head to head, EG is just way bigger than millenium. edit: and it's a pretty good point too that the USA market is well saturated with other competing brands.

But the point from the beginning was relative hold on their respective markets. The discussion was never about absolute wealth or size. It is as fair as comparing any other relative values. You just need to know what is being compared and not suffer from knee-jerk reactions because someone said EG is smaller.


You just need to read posts thoroughly instead of posting knee-jerk responses full of assumptions. I'll figure out what's being compared as soon as you stop inserting my motives for doing so.
PiQLiQ
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden702 Posts
November 17 2012 02:08 GMT
#72
Too bad
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mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
November 17 2012 02:21 GMT
#73
On November 17 2012 11:07 rd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 10:43 mcc wrote:
On November 17 2012 10:21 rd wrote:
On November 17 2012 08:59 Otolia wrote:
On November 17 2012 02:42 Megabuster123 wrote:
4k isn't enough to call EG a joke in comparison...>_>

EG gets way more than that during the masters cup.


On November 17 2012 05:32 Qwyn wrote:
I highly doubt that. Equivalent, maybe. But EG is most definitely not a "joke." They set a very high standard.

I wonder why Stephano went to EG?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......

EG is nothing compared to Millenium in term of market penetration. The hold they have on the french market is higher than the hold that EG has on the USA. They have an minimum of 2K viewers every single day from 20:00 to 00:00.

To compare numbers : onemoregame.TV has 25M total viewers whereas MilleniumTV1 has 40M. And the first one has a multinational audience while Millenium has only a francophone audience (mostly european)

EG is a vastly richer team than Millenium but they have the biggest market in the world, still they don't have the same kind of penetration. And Millenium isn't even doing a good job at marketing themselves at the french public ...


The USA market is way, way bigger than the French market. It's not really fair to try and compare to a much smaller base. Head to head, EG is just way bigger than millenium. edit: and it's a pretty good point too that the USA market is well saturated with other competing brands.

But the point from the beginning was relative hold on their respective markets. The discussion was never about absolute wealth or size. It is as fair as comparing any other relative values. You just need to know what is being compared and not suffer from knee-jerk reactions because someone said EG is smaller.


You just need to read posts thoroughly instead of posting knee-jerk responses full of assumptions. I'll figure out what's being compared as soon as you stop inserting my motives for doing so.

I read your post and I see no assumptions that I made, I react only to your exact words in that post. Last sentence was not really directed at you personally, it was more reaction to other posts of similar content, should have used different phrasing.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
November 17 2012 02:39 GMT
#74
On November 17 2012 10:21 rd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 08:59 Otolia wrote:
On November 17 2012 02:42 Megabuster123 wrote:
4k isn't enough to call EG a joke in comparison...>_>

EG gets way more than that during the masters cup.


On November 17 2012 05:32 Qwyn wrote:
I highly doubt that. Equivalent, maybe. But EG is most definitely not a "joke." They set a very high standard.

I wonder why Stephano went to EG?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......

EG is nothing compared to Millenium in term of market penetration. The hold they have on the french market is higher than the hold that EG has on the USA. They have an minimum of 2K viewers every single day from 20:00 to 00:00.

To compare numbers : onemoregame.TV has 25M total viewers whereas MilleniumTV1 has 40M. And the first one has a multinational audience while Millenium has only a francophone audience (mostly european)

EG is a vastly richer team than Millenium but they have the biggest market in the world, still they don't have the same kind of penetration. And Millenium isn't even doing a good job at marketing themselves at the french public ...


The USA market is way, way bigger than the French market. It's not really fair to try and compare to a much smaller base. Head to head, EG is just way bigger than millenium. edit: and it's a pretty good point too that the USA market is well saturated with other competing brands.

*sigh* I'm not saying EG isn't bigger, this isn't an e-peen contest. I am just trying to present a reason why french teams struggle to sustain themselves. Millenium isn't the reason the teams are failing, but it's the reason why they feel pressure to succeed and end up disbanding because they can't meet their objectives.

The reasons of Millenium's hold onto the french scene are numerous and I am not trying to establish a fair comparison with EG, I'm just providing metrics, a measurement stick if you will. Because EG is the biggest team out there.
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
November 17 2012 18:09 GMT
#75
I wish all the best for Sage
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
LuckyGnomTV
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Russian Federation367 Posts
November 17 2012 18:11 GMT
#76
no wonder
IceBergZ
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia176 Posts
November 27 2012 09:41 GMT
#77
OMG
IceBergZ
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia176 Posts
November 27 2012 09:44 GMT
#78
any english version so I can read ?
PixelNite
Profile Joined August 2011
France1008 Posts
November 27 2012 09:46 GMT
#79
On November 27 2012 18:44 IceBergZ wrote:
any english version so I can read ?

Translation in the first comments of the post
IceBergZ
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia176 Posts
November 27 2012 09:52 GMT
#80
nvrmd found the english translation ady
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