On November 17 2012 09:02 AnomalySC2 wrote:
Sucks
((((
Esports needs a fresh injection of players and sponsors.
Sucks

Esports needs a fresh injection of players and sponsors.
Hell no, there are already way too many players.
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ES.Genie
Germany1370 Posts
On November 17 2012 09:02 AnomalySC2 wrote: Sucks ![]() Esports needs a fresh injection of players and sponsors. Hell no, there are already way too many players. | ||
Gyro_SC2
Canada540 Posts
On November 17 2012 02:23 Otolia wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2012 02:17 Quakie wrote: Has said it before, but what is it about these french unstable teams(with the exception of Millenium)? Millenium is HUGE in France. EG in the USA is a joke compared to Millenium in France (Yesterday they got 4K viewers during 3 hours for a multi-esports event with good players and some viewers) This fact makes in very difficult for upcoming teams to get money. LOL wingsofdeathx is 16K easy by himself. Sc2 is really dying :D User was warned for this post | ||
F-Decoy
France245 Posts
That being said, I really hope one day we'll have another "M-like" teams in France, since alone it's really hard to promote eSport. @Topic: sad for players. | ||
ECHOZs
United States499 Posts
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Demicore
France503 Posts
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
On November 17 2012 02:23 Otolia wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2012 02:17 Quakie wrote: Has said it before, but what is it about these french unstable teams(with the exception of Millenium)? Millenium is HUGE in France. EG in the USA is a joke compared to Millenium in France (Yesterday they got 4K viewers during 3 hours for a multi-esports event with good players and some viewers) This fact makes in very difficult for upcoming teams to get money. Millenium can't be that huge otherwise they would have been able to afford stephano, the pride of france. They may be huge relative to france, but small potatoes compared to EG. | ||
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
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Sylfyre
Australia222 Posts
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rd
United States2586 Posts
On November 17 2012 08:59 Otolia wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2012 02:42 Megabuster123 wrote: 4k isn't enough to call EG a joke in comparison...>_> EG gets way more than that during the masters cup. Show nested quote + On November 17 2012 05:32 Qwyn wrote: I highly doubt that. Equivalent, maybe. But EG is most definitely not a "joke." They set a very high standard. I wonder why Stephano went to EG? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...... EG is nothing compared to Millenium in term of market penetration. The hold they have on the french market is higher than the hold that EG has on the USA. They have an minimum of 2K viewers every single day from 20:00 to 00:00. To compare numbers : onemoregame.TV has 25M total viewers whereas MilleniumTV1 has 40M. And the first one has a multinational audience while Millenium has only a francophone audience (mostly european) EG is a vastly richer team than Millenium but they have the biggest market in the world, still they don't have the same kind of penetration. And Millenium isn't even doing a good job at marketing themselves at the french public ... The USA market is way, way bigger than the French market. It's not really fair to try and compare to a much smaller base. Head to head, EG is just way bigger than millenium. edit: and it's a pretty good point too that the USA market is well saturated with other competing brands. | ||
mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On November 17 2012 10:21 rd wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2012 08:59 Otolia wrote: On November 17 2012 02:42 Megabuster123 wrote: 4k isn't enough to call EG a joke in comparison...>_> EG gets way more than that during the masters cup. On November 17 2012 05:32 Qwyn wrote: I highly doubt that. Equivalent, maybe. But EG is most definitely not a "joke." They set a very high standard. I wonder why Stephano went to EG? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...... EG is nothing compared to Millenium in term of market penetration. The hold they have on the french market is higher than the hold that EG has on the USA. They have an minimum of 2K viewers every single day from 20:00 to 00:00. To compare numbers : onemoregame.TV has 25M total viewers whereas MilleniumTV1 has 40M. And the first one has a multinational audience while Millenium has only a francophone audience (mostly european) EG is a vastly richer team than Millenium but they have the biggest market in the world, still they don't have the same kind of penetration. And Millenium isn't even doing a good job at marketing themselves at the french public ... The USA market is way, way bigger than the French market. It's not really fair to try and compare to a much smaller base. Head to head, EG is just way bigger than millenium. edit: and it's a pretty good point too that the USA market is well saturated with other competing brands. But the point from the beginning was relative hold on their respective markets. The discussion was never about absolute wealth or size. It is as fair as comparing any other relative values. You just need to know what is being compared and not suffer from knee-jerk reactions because someone said EG is smaller. | ||
rd
United States2586 Posts
On November 17 2012 10:43 mcc wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2012 10:21 rd wrote: On November 17 2012 08:59 Otolia wrote: On November 17 2012 02:42 Megabuster123 wrote: 4k isn't enough to call EG a joke in comparison...>_> EG gets way more than that during the masters cup. On November 17 2012 05:32 Qwyn wrote: I highly doubt that. Equivalent, maybe. But EG is most definitely not a "joke." They set a very high standard. I wonder why Stephano went to EG? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...... EG is nothing compared to Millenium in term of market penetration. The hold they have on the french market is higher than the hold that EG has on the USA. They have an minimum of 2K viewers every single day from 20:00 to 00:00. To compare numbers : onemoregame.TV has 25M total viewers whereas MilleniumTV1 has 40M. And the first one has a multinational audience while Millenium has only a francophone audience (mostly european) EG is a vastly richer team than Millenium but they have the biggest market in the world, still they don't have the same kind of penetration. And Millenium isn't even doing a good job at marketing themselves at the french public ... The USA market is way, way bigger than the French market. It's not really fair to try and compare to a much smaller base. Head to head, EG is just way bigger than millenium. edit: and it's a pretty good point too that the USA market is well saturated with other competing brands. But the point from the beginning was relative hold on their respective markets. The discussion was never about absolute wealth or size. It is as fair as comparing any other relative values. You just need to know what is being compared and not suffer from knee-jerk reactions because someone said EG is smaller. You just need to read posts thoroughly instead of posting knee-jerk responses full of assumptions. I'll figure out what's being compared as soon as you stop inserting my motives for doing so. | ||
PiQLiQ
Sweden702 Posts
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On November 17 2012 11:07 rd wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2012 10:43 mcc wrote: On November 17 2012 10:21 rd wrote: On November 17 2012 08:59 Otolia wrote: On November 17 2012 02:42 Megabuster123 wrote: 4k isn't enough to call EG a joke in comparison...>_> EG gets way more than that during the masters cup. On November 17 2012 05:32 Qwyn wrote: I highly doubt that. Equivalent, maybe. But EG is most definitely not a "joke." They set a very high standard. I wonder why Stephano went to EG? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...... EG is nothing compared to Millenium in term of market penetration. The hold they have on the french market is higher than the hold that EG has on the USA. They have an minimum of 2K viewers every single day from 20:00 to 00:00. To compare numbers : onemoregame.TV has 25M total viewers whereas MilleniumTV1 has 40M. And the first one has a multinational audience while Millenium has only a francophone audience (mostly european) EG is a vastly richer team than Millenium but they have the biggest market in the world, still they don't have the same kind of penetration. And Millenium isn't even doing a good job at marketing themselves at the french public ... The USA market is way, way bigger than the French market. It's not really fair to try and compare to a much smaller base. Head to head, EG is just way bigger than millenium. edit: and it's a pretty good point too that the USA market is well saturated with other competing brands. But the point from the beginning was relative hold on their respective markets. The discussion was never about absolute wealth or size. It is as fair as comparing any other relative values. You just need to know what is being compared and not suffer from knee-jerk reactions because someone said EG is smaller. You just need to read posts thoroughly instead of posting knee-jerk responses full of assumptions. I'll figure out what's being compared as soon as you stop inserting my motives for doing so. I read your post and I see no assumptions that I made, I react only to your exact words in that post. Last sentence was not really directed at you personally, it was more reaction to other posts of similar content, should have used different phrasing. | ||
Otolia
France5805 Posts
On November 17 2012 10:21 rd wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2012 08:59 Otolia wrote: On November 17 2012 02:42 Megabuster123 wrote: 4k isn't enough to call EG a joke in comparison...>_> EG gets way more than that during the masters cup. On November 17 2012 05:32 Qwyn wrote: I highly doubt that. Equivalent, maybe. But EG is most definitely not a "joke." They set a very high standard. I wonder why Stephano went to EG? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...... EG is nothing compared to Millenium in term of market penetration. The hold they have on the french market is higher than the hold that EG has on the USA. They have an minimum of 2K viewers every single day from 20:00 to 00:00. To compare numbers : onemoregame.TV has 25M total viewers whereas MilleniumTV1 has 40M. And the first one has a multinational audience while Millenium has only a francophone audience (mostly european) EG is a vastly richer team than Millenium but they have the biggest market in the world, still they don't have the same kind of penetration. And Millenium isn't even doing a good job at marketing themselves at the french public ... The USA market is way, way bigger than the French market. It's not really fair to try and compare to a much smaller base. Head to head, EG is just way bigger than millenium. edit: and it's a pretty good point too that the USA market is well saturated with other competing brands. *sigh* I'm not saying EG isn't bigger, this isn't an e-peen contest. I am just trying to present a reason why french teams struggle to sustain themselves. Millenium isn't the reason the teams are failing, but it's the reason why they feel pressure to succeed and end up disbanding because they can't meet their objectives. The reasons of Millenium's hold onto the french scene are numerous and I am not trying to establish a fair comparison with EG, I'm just providing metrics, a measurement stick if you will. Because EG is the biggest team out there. | ||
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On November 27 2012 18:44 IceBergZ wrote: any english version so I can read ? Translation in the first comments of the post | ||
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