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On October 25 2012 13:11 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 13:05 Lysanias wrote:On October 25 2012 09:02 OpTiKDream wrote:On October 25 2012 08:26 Monochromatic wrote:On October 25 2012 08:22 Swish 41 wrote:
Too much drama, can someone TL;DR it for me? Razor offered a personal sponsorship for Boxer, and maybe MMA. (Not clear on that?) Jessica denied them. Uh u missed the part where manager J took over jessica's email, thus making it look like jessica denied it when manager J did that. How would a manager that is there for only 2 months get that kind of access. Jessica is is the type to record everything i would imagine she took care of that information a bit better, that's just careless behavior. yeah if J had access to her email, that still means Jessica fucked up.
Jessica has admitted that she made a huge mistake in trusting Manager J, she admits it in one of the few interviews she has had in the past couple of days.
She also does go on to say that Manager J she had known before he was on SlayerS, As he had worked for one of their sponsors, and was often over at the teamhouse. They didn't just grab this guy at random, they trusted him enough to do this and I think he intentionally went in to destroy SlayerS from day 1.
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None of this matters. MMA should be contacted by Razer directly and offered the sponsorship again, Jessica is publicly humiliated for being a disgusting liar, and we all move on.
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Who the hell is manager J? can we lose the acronym and get a pic so I can take a look at the bastard and curse his name. What with all these smoke and mirrors? Corporation R, etc.
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On October 24 2012 14:01 Fionn wrote:
So is this going to end up like Fight Club? Manager J and Jessica were the same person all along?
I had the same reaction lol.
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On October 25 2012 13:58 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Who the hell is manager J? can we lose the acronym and get a pic so I can take a look at the bastard and curse his name. What with all these smoke and mirrors? Corporation R, etc.
Makes you wonder why Jessica is not sending the dogs after him. I pray she has something on this "J" person so she can nail him to the wall, instead she's pref to hunt the players instead.
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So basically Jessica and Manager J are both equally to blame for the end of Slayers. Case closed.
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On October 25 2012 13:58 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Who the hell is manager J? can we lose the acronym and get a pic so I can take a look at the bastard and curse his name. What with all these smoke and mirrors? Corporation R, etc.
Reading through the relevant threads helps (click to show nested quotes for video, pic, and old interview):
On October 25 2012 07:25 Namunelbo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 19:26 Proseat wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 24 2012 15:54 Namunelbo wrote:Posted on the other thread, if anyone interested on how "J" looks like. On October 24 2012 15:04 Namunelbo wrote:
Here's the infamous 'Manager J', also known as Hui-Chul "Garfield" Jung, with MMA (translating) right after he won Bluzzard Cup being interviewed by Rachel for CyberSportsNetwrok.
And this, just an assumption without much evidence. On October 24 2012 15:38 Namunelbo wrote:
Has this 'mysterious J' left the scene ever since Jessica kicked him out of the team or has he been watching closely from the shadows?
Jessica mentioned abruptly back then (before this drama) on how the Slayers social media accounts (twitter and facebook) were not associated with the team anymore, due to reasons she couldn't reveal.
But we all know as of now that those accounts were managed by "J".
Were the accounts given back to the team? or was "J" still in hold of those accounts? I doubt the accounts were reclaimed back by the team, if I recall correctly, sometime later after the disassociation with the accounts Jessica mentioned how from there onwards her own Twitter will be used as the team's official account.
Since then, there wasn't much activity in those accounts until early this month (October), when the non-official twitter became active again, and this time sparked the early rumors about Slayers disbanding http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=373628 .
Actually, that was yet another non-official account. The ones that "Manager J" had created and operated for the team were the ones described in this official statement from Jessica to TL.net on March 1, 2012: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=316657Both of these have been silent ever since "Manager J" was found out and cut from the team in February/March. The thread you provided deals with the http://twitter.com/#!/slayersclan Twitter account. Anyways, thanks for the CSN youtube video showing "Manager J" translating for MMA after winning Blizzard Cup at the end of last year. I had missed that earlier: On October 24 2012 16:08 Proseat wrote:When I tried to find out more about this "Manager J", meanwhile identified as Hui-Chul "Garfield" Jung, the only picture I could find of him was in an old interview with Chinese website it.com.cn while he was working for FnaticMSI Korea: http://www.it.com.cn/f/games/0810/24/678235.htm+ Show Spoiler [Google Translate working decently] +http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.it.com.cn%2Ff%2Fgames%2F0810%2F24%2F678235.htm Seems this guy did really get around already for his young age (born in Germany, worked for SK, then Fnatic and Razer in Korea etc.). Wonder why SlayerS or sponsors did not press legal charges against him as he seems to be the culprit for most problems. Thanks for the clarification. I'm surprised he somehow kept following the team despite possible legal actions Jessica might take against him if what is being said turns out to be true. Yet we still have to hear his part of the story, Show nested quote +@Slasher
I have found and located the mysterious Slayers 'Manager J', and he has agreed to talk to me regarding several aspects of the Slayers story.
This includes the discrepancies between Razer and MMA/Jessica, and his side of the story concerning the allegations made by Jessica. From the other thread,
And it should be obvious by now that "Corporation R" is Razer.
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Wow thanks for that! Does it make anyone else angry that he's not a hideous, greasy looking bastard?
On October 25 2012 14:54 Proseat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 13:58 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Who the hell is manager J? can we lose the acronym and get a pic so I can take a look at the bastard and curse his name. What with all these smoke and mirrors? Corporation R, etc. Reading through the relevant threads helps (click to show nested quotes for video, pic, and old interview): Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 07:25 Namunelbo wrote:On October 24 2012 19:26 Proseat wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 24 2012 15:54 Namunelbo wrote:Posted on the other thread, if anyone interested on how "J" looks like. On October 24 2012 15:04 Namunelbo wrote:
Here's the infamous 'Manager J', also known as Hui-Chul "Garfield" Jung, with MMA (translating) right after he won Bluzzard Cup being interviewed by Rachel for CyberSportsNetwrok.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zej19BIoc68&feature=plcpAnd this, just an assumption without much evidence. On October 24 2012 15:38 Namunelbo wrote:
Has this 'mysterious J' left the scene ever since Jessica kicked him out of the team or has he been watching closely from the shadows?
Jessica mentioned abruptly back then (before this drama) on how the Slayers social media accounts (twitter and facebook) were not associated with the team anymore, due to reasons she couldn't reveal.
But we all know as of now that those accounts were managed by "J".
Were the accounts given back to the team? or was "J" still in hold of those accounts? I doubt the accounts were reclaimed back by the team, if I recall correctly, sometime later after the disassociation with the accounts Jessica mentioned how from there onwards her own Twitter will be used as the team's official account.
Since then, there wasn't much activity in those accounts until early this month (October), when the non-official twitter became active again, and this time sparked the early rumors about Slayers disbanding http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=373628 .
Actually, that was yet another non-official account. The ones that "Manager J" had created and operated for the team were the ones described in this official statement from Jessica to TL.net on March 1, 2012: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=316657Both of these have been silent ever since "Manager J" was found out and cut from the team in February/March. The thread you provided deals with the http://twitter.com/#!/slayersclan Twitter account. Anyways, thanks for the CSN youtube video showing "Manager J" translating for MMA after winning Blizzard Cup at the end of last year. I had missed that earlier: On October 24 2012 16:08 Proseat wrote:When I tried to find out more about this "Manager J", meanwhile identified as Hui-Chul "Garfield" Jung, the only picture I could find of him was in an old interview with Chinese website it.com.cn while he was working for FnaticMSI Korea: http://www.it.com.cn/f/games/0810/24/678235.htm+ Show Spoiler [Google Translate working decently] +http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.it.com.cn%2Ff%2Fgames%2F0810%2F24%2F678235.htm Seems this guy did really get around already for his young age (born in Germany, worked for SK, then Fnatic and Razer in Korea etc.). Wonder why SlayerS or sponsors did not press legal charges against him as he seems to be the culprit for most problems. Thanks for the clarification. I'm surprised he somehow kept following the team despite possible legal actions Jessica might take against him if what is being said turns out to be true. Yet we still have to hear his part of the story, https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/261139586506444802@Slasher
I have found and located the mysterious Slayers 'Manager J', and he has agreed to talk to me regarding several aspects of the Slayers story.
This includes the discrepancies between Razer and MMA/Jessica, and his side of the story concerning the allegations made by Jessica. From the other thread, And it should be obvious by now that "Corporation R" is Razer.
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Jessica let Manager J into the e-mails and handled sponsorship for corp. R(razor)... a company he was fired from? Does anything make any sense anymore? Seems to me jessica trusted him more than the players trusted him. Hypocrite much?
So, is jessica responsible for this? Is she going to say sorry to mma or something. everyone should just say sorry. if jessica says sorry, everything will end.
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On October 25 2012 15:52 Lokian wrote:
Jessica let Manager J into the e-mails and handled sponsorship for corp. R(razor)... a company he was fired from? Does anything make any sense anymore? Seems to me jessica trusted him more than the players trusted him. Hypocrite much?
So, is jessica responsible for this? Is she going to say sorry to mma or something. everyone should just say sorry. if jessica says sorry, everything will end.
Destiny has a better chance of winning a GSL than this happening.
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Just to clarify, this isn't the first time there's been drama with Manager J. Does anyone else remember this, when the Slayers Twitter and Facebook (which he managed) were declared "non-official"?
http://i.imgur.com/X8R75.png
Seems like Jessica was pretty upset about it back then, reading through these tweets...
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On October 25 2012 15:52 Lokian wrote:
Jessica let Manager J into the e-mails and handled sponsorship for corp. R(razor)... a company he was fired from? Does anything make any sense anymore? Seems to me jessica trusted him more than the players trusted him. Hypocrite much?
So, is jessica responsible for this? Is she going to say sorry to mma or something. everyone should just say sorry. if jessica says sorry, everything will end.
yeah well you see.
In this drama, Jessica's target audience is the korean fans, not the foreign ones. I can tell you without any hesitation
that 99.9% of the korean fans are on her side.
She also says she is sorry for her mistakes, but I really doubt she will ever apologize to Crank and MMA. Why would
she? she won this over and MMA and Crank are both fucked( im talking about tje korean scene)
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On October 25 2012 16:39 mongmong wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 15:52 Lokian wrote:
Jessica let Manager J into the e-mails and handled sponsorship for corp. R(razor)... a company he was fired from? Does anything make any sense anymore? Seems to me jessica trusted him more than the players trusted him. Hypocrite much?
So, is jessica responsible for this? Is she going to say sorry to mma or something. everyone should just say sorry. if jessica says sorry, everything will end. yeah well you see. In this drama, Jessica's target audience is the korean fans, not the foreign ones. I can tell you without any hesitation that 99.9% of the korean fans are on her side. She also says she is sorry for her mistakes, but I really doubt she will ever apologize to Crank and MMA. Why would she? she won this over and MMA and Crank are both fucked( im talking about tje korean scene)
Sounds like we have to do something to her reputation overseas to make her care when she is sequestered in Korea. I think we should begin by contacting all the Korean channels that carry older dramas with her acting in them.
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On October 25 2012 16:39 mongmong wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 15:52 Lokian wrote:
Jessica let Manager J into the e-mails and handled sponsorship for corp. R(razor)... a company he was fired from? Does anything make any sense anymore? Seems to me jessica trusted him more than the players trusted him. Hypocrite much?
So, is jessica responsible for this? Is she going to say sorry to mma or something. everyone should just say sorry. if jessica says sorry, everything will end. yeah well you see. In this drama, Jessica's target audience is the korean fans, not the foreign ones. I can tell you without any hesitation that 99.9% of the korean fans are on her side. She also says she is sorry for her mistakes, but I really doubt she will ever apologize to Crank and MMA. Why would she? she won this over and MMA and Crank are both fucked( im talking about tje korean scene)
why apologize? because she screwed up MMA getting a personal sponsorship from Razer. J shouldn't have had access to her email or nearly as much power as he did.
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On October 25 2012 16:50 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 16:39 mongmong wrote:On October 25 2012 15:52 Lokian wrote:
Jessica let Manager J into the e-mails and handled sponsorship for corp. R(razor)... a company he was fired from? Does anything make any sense anymore? Seems to me jessica trusted him more than the players trusted him. Hypocrite much?
So, is jessica responsible for this? Is she going to say sorry to mma or something. everyone should just say sorry. if jessica says sorry, everything will end. yeah well you see. In this drama, Jessica's target audience is the korean fans, not the foreign ones. I can tell you without any hesitation that 99.9% of the korean fans are on her side. She also says she is sorry for her mistakes, but I really doubt she will ever apologize to Crank and MMA. Why would she? she won this over and MMA and Crank are both fucked( im talking about tje korean scene) why apologize? because she screwed up MMA getting a personal sponsorship from Razer. J shouldn't have had access to her email or nearly as much power as he did.
I dont buy that shit
Her english is so good that she could possibly understand the offer and respond?
bullshit
Maybe you should bring something more solid if you want to bash her.
Jessica won this kids ,admit it
edit: mere speculation "j didnt have as much power blah blah"
you do know that jessica's english aint so good huh?
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On October 25 2012 16:48 boxturtle wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 16:39 mongmong wrote:On October 25 2012 15:52 Lokian wrote:
Jessica let Manager J into the e-mails and handled sponsorship for corp. R(razor)... a company he was fired from? Does anything make any sense anymore? Seems to me jessica trusted him more than the players trusted him. Hypocrite much?
So, is jessica responsible for this? Is she going to say sorry to mma or something. everyone should just say sorry. if jessica says sorry, everything will end. yeah well you see. In this drama, Jessica's target audience is the korean fans, not the foreign ones. I can tell you without any hesitation that 99.9% of the korean fans are on her side. She also says she is sorry for her mistakes, but I really doubt she will ever apologize to Crank and MMA. Why would she? she won this over and MMA and Crank are both fucked( im talking about tje korean scene) Sounds like we have to do something to her reputation overseas to make her care when she is sequestered in Korea. I think we should begin by contacting all the Korean channels that carry older dramas with her acting in them.
LOL
you might as well try that
doesnt look like its gonna work
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This is so funny. Who needs soap operas when you have SC2?
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maybe if you defend her enough you will start to matter. it's fine though. good people have to get directly taken advantage of by liars a few times to learn that life lesson. i just can't wait to see how this plays out. i suspect we are lacking many details that could swing the direction of this either way. despite how many koreans blindly love and trust boxer's girlfriend.
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Oh yessss moar Drama
SC2 might be got being bored but its drama ... best
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On October 25 2012 16:53 mongmong wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 16:50 jmbthirteen wrote:On October 25 2012 16:39 mongmong wrote:On October 25 2012 15:52 Lokian wrote:
Jessica let Manager J into the e-mails and handled sponsorship for corp. R(razor)... a company he was fired from? Does anything make any sense anymore? Seems to me jessica trusted him more than the players trusted him. Hypocrite much?
So, is jessica responsible for this? Is she going to say sorry to mma or something. everyone should just say sorry. if jessica says sorry, everything will end. yeah well you see. In this drama, Jessica's target audience is the korean fans, not the foreign ones. I can tell you without any hesitation that 99.9% of the korean fans are on her side. She also says she is sorry for her mistakes, but I really doubt she will ever apologize to Crank and MMA. Why would she? she won this over and MMA and Crank are both fucked( im talking about tje korean scene) why apologize? because she screwed up MMA getting a personal sponsorship from Razer. J shouldn't have had access to her email or nearly as much power as he did. I dont buy that shit Her english is so good that she could possibly understand the offer and respond? bullshit Maybe you should bring something more solid if you want to bash her. Jessica won this kids ,admit it edit: mere speculation "j didnt have as much power blah blah" you do know that jessica's english aint so good huh?
wtf? her english has nothing to do with it. IF J had access to her email, thats a huge fuck up. If she needed an email translated, she could just ask him to translate it.
Fact is she gave J WAY too much power. And that is her mistake. And that is the biggest mistake that lead to slayers downfall.
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