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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
October 20 2012 19:28 GMT
#41
I think this solidifies Life as the best zerg in the world and the next zerg bonjwa. I always thought life's zvt style was unbeatable with his ling/bane aggression and this just proved it to me. MVP went mech all 7 games because he knew any bio/tank style would get destroyed by life's ling/bane aggression, so didn't dare to try it even once against life. MVP forced life to adapt and change his style and life still beat mvp in the end. I really don't think there's a terran in the world right now that can beat life in a bo7 and only mvp is capable of pushing him to the max.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18619 Posts
October 20 2012 19:38 GMT
#42
On October 21 2012 04:28 Canucklehead wrote:
I think this solidifies Life as the best zerg in the world and the next zerg bonjwa.


I stopped reading after this lol.

this is a troll post, right?
chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
October 20 2012 19:40 GMT
#43
I'm so impressed by his skill and maturity at age of 15...
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-20 19:42:01
October 20 2012 19:40 GMT
#44
On October 21 2012 04:38 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2012 04:28 Canucklehead wrote:
I think this solidifies Life as the best zerg in the world and the next zerg bonjwa.


I stopped reading after this lol.

this is a troll post, right?


Name a zerg better right now? He's way better than stephano and I'd say better than DRG at the moment too. Life is the favourite to win MLG and IPL 5 right now as well and wouldn't be surprised if he won both. Life is the only zerg to truly impress me besides DRG and Nestea at their peaks.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
October 20 2012 19:42 GMT
#45
On October 21 2012 04:28 Canucklehead wrote:
I think this solidifies Life as the best zerg in the world and the next zerg bonjwa. I always thought life's zvt style was unbeatable with his ling/bane aggression and this just proved it to me. MVP went mech all 7 games because he knew any bio/tank style would get destroyed by life's ling/bane aggression, so didn't dare to try it even once against life. MVP forced life to adapt and change his style and life still beat mvp in the end. I really don't think there's a terran in the world right now that can beat life in a bo7 and only mvp is capable of pushing him to the max.


You can say this once Life looks invincible in all MUs for a solid period of time, and takes every tournament possible.
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
October 20 2012 19:42 GMT
#46
On October 21 2012 04:40 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2012 04:38 sharkie wrote:
On October 21 2012 04:28 Canucklehead wrote:
I think this solidifies Life as the best zerg in the world and the next zerg bonjwa.


I stopped reading after this lol.

this is a troll post, right?


Name a zerg better right now? He's way better than stephano and I'd say better than DRG at the moment too. Life is the favourite to win MLG and IPL 5 right now as well and wouldn't be surprised if he won both.


Expectations are a bit high. We don't know how much school (which is his top priority) will interfere with the next year.
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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
October 20 2012 19:45 GMT
#47
On October 21 2012 04:42 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2012 04:28 Canucklehead wrote:
I think this solidifies Life as the best zerg in the world and the next zerg bonjwa. I always thought life's zvt style was unbeatable with his ling/bane aggression and this just proved it to me. MVP went mech all 7 games because he knew any bio/tank style would get destroyed by life's ling/bane aggression, so didn't dare to try it even once against life. MVP forced life to adapt and change his style and life still beat mvp in the end. I really don't think there's a terran in the world right now that can beat life in a bo7 and only mvp is capable of pushing him to the max.


You can say this once Life looks invincible in all MUs for a solid period of time, and takes every tournament possible.


Well the zerg bonjwa thing is just the ongoing tasteless joke. I standby everything else I said though.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
October 20 2012 19:50 GMT
#48
This isnt broodwar where bonjwas looked unbeatable.

Well bonjwas looked unbeatable only because there was

1. no balance patch

2. There were only two individual leagues: OSL and MSL whereas there are so many tourneys

held all over the world in sc2 , meaning no one can actually win EVERYTHING.

어헣 ↗ 어헣 ↗
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18619 Posts
October 20 2012 19:52 GMT
#49
On October 21 2012 04:50 mongmong wrote:
This isnt broodwar where bonjwas looked unbeatable.

Well bonjwas looked unbeatable only because there was

1. no balance patch

2. There were only two individual leagues: OSL and MSL whereas there are so many tourneys

held all over the world in sc2 , meaning no one can actually win EVERYTHING.



so savior looked unbeatable because there was no balance patch?

how come other zergs werent able to repeat his feats then?
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 20 2012 20:09 GMT
#50
On October 21 2012 03:36 DreamTheaterFan wrote:
The key element here is Life himself sees the final batch of Kespa players as the turning point in SC2: they will eventually always win.


No, I don't think so. Remember, Flash won OSL at the age of 15 338 days after his breakout onto the BW scene, whereas Life won the GSL 267 days after his debut - at least according to the TL preview. I'm not saying Life is as good as Flash - it's way too early to say, but there's no telling how could he could be once he's out of school and focusing solely on Starcraft II. Really, he's looked a lot like a prodigy this tournament, and his rapid improvement tells loads about how good he could
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 20 2012 20:10 GMT
#51
On October 21 2012 04:52 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2012 04:50 mongmong wrote:
This isnt broodwar where bonjwas looked unbeatable.

Well bonjwas looked unbeatable only because there was

1. no balance patch

2. There were only two individual leagues: OSL and MSL whereas there are so many tourneys

held all over the world in sc2 , meaning no one can actually win EVERYTHING.



so savior looked unbeatable because there was no balance patch?

how come other zergs werent able to repeat his feats then?


Because people eventually figured Savior out, maybe? I'm not an expert, but I think Bisu showed up and crushed Savior, whereas his ZvT was also, gradually, figured out; despite his multitude of innovations.

But again - I'm not sure about this, but I do think this was how his decline was explained.
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
October 20 2012 20:11 GMT
#52
Congratulations. I feel bad for MVP, but well played Life ><
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
October 20 2012 20:25 GMT
#53
I wanna see an on form MMA vs this guy.
Fights, fights everywhere!
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
October 20 2012 23:21 GMT
#54
On October 21 2012 04:50 mongmong wrote:
This isnt broodwar where bonjwas looked unbeatable.

Well bonjwas looked unbeatable only because there was

1. no balance patch

2. There were only two individual leagues: OSL and MSL whereas there are so many tourneys

held all over the world in sc2 , meaning no one can actually win EVERYTHING.



Being a bonjwa is not about winning every single tournament. Savior only won one OSL. People need to stop throwing the word around without knowing what it means.
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tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
October 20 2012 23:35 GMT
#55
On October 21 2012 04:28 Canucklehead wrote:
I think this solidifies Life as the best zerg in the world and the next zerg bonjwa. I always thought life's zvt style was unbeatable with his ling/bane aggression and this just proved it to me. MVP went mech all 7 games because he knew any bio/tank style would get destroyed by life's ling/bane aggression, so didn't dare to try it even once against life. MVP forced life to adapt and change his style and life still beat mvp in the end. I really don't think there's a terran in the world right now that can beat life in a bo7 and only mvp is capable of pushing him to the max.

lol hell no it's not unbeatable, MVP just fucked up last night with so many overextended move and losing the entire army or forgot to make more vikings. No offense but it was MVP played badly rather than Life was that good. In game 4 and 5 we could absolutely agree that MVP look much more solid and no big mistake like the games that he lost.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
October 20 2012 23:38 GMT
#56
Bonjwa is a BW term, get your own.
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Dontkillme
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)806 Posts
October 20 2012 23:47 GMT
#57
Funny how he goes to school AND beats Mvp... What a ballerrrrrr
Bomber & Jaedong & FlaSh & SNSD <3
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-20 23:52:47
October 20 2012 23:52 GMT
#58
These interviews are a competition too. The first I check is, who translated it this time faster. I should keep record
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bearhug
Profile Joined September 2010
United States999 Posts
October 21 2012 00:18 GMT
#59
On October 21 2012 05:09 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2012 03:36 DreamTheaterFan wrote:
The key element here is Life himself sees the final batch of Kespa players as the turning point in SC2: they will eventually always win.


No, I don't think so. Remember, Flash won OSL at the age of 15 338 days after his breakout onto the BW scene, whereas Life won the GSL 267 days after his debut - at least according to the TL preview. I'm not saying Life is as good as Flash - it's way too early to say, but there's no telling how could he could be once he's out of school and focusing solely on Starcraft II. Really, he's looked a lot like a prodigy this tournament, and his rapid improvement tells loads about how good he could


SC2 and BW are two different games. As a matter of fact, Flash's accomplishment in BW will never be broken. Life's accomplishment in SC2 may be broken any day in the future, since unlike BW, sc2 is alive.
We are dusts in the vast cosmic arena. Need to make the most out of life when we still have it.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
October 21 2012 00:27 GMT
#60
On October 21 2012 08:38 Xiphos wrote:
Bonjwa is a BW term, get your own.


Cus it's not like a korean word that took on new connotations as a BW term or anything
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
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