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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 17 2012 14:24 GMT
#521
On October 17 2012 23:21 trwkling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 23:19 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On October 17 2012 23:18 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
MMA showing dat disrespect to Boxer. The only justification would have been if Boxer/Jessica embezzled the money....which I honestly have a seriously hard time believing.....

Considering the players/coah agreed, It's not hard to believe.


could it be because the accounts were mixed? jessica said boxer used a lot of his own money (and jessica's) to build the team maybe they didn't have a very clear separation of accounts so they pooled the money in for themselves as well as the team, and so manager j used that to... whoever's advantage?


It's possible but, this is only from jessia's perspective i think? If so we need to hear the other sides(probably won't happen) of the story.
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Rescawen
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland1028 Posts
October 17 2012 14:25 GMT
#522
i really doubt jessica is here to blame since its her and boxers money, maybe she had good intentions but miscommunication. Agree on the fact that this manager J might be a source for problems
AzBozz
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany518 Posts
October 17 2012 14:25 GMT
#523
noooo please (
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 17 2012 14:25 GMT
#524
the whole son of boxer thing MMA had just went down the shitter :/

Sad that their relationship soured to the point that Boxer considered MMA "a cancer to the team". I remember them at MLG Anaheim D:
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ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
October 17 2012 14:25 GMT
#525
On October 17 2012 23:21 trwkling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 23:19 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On October 17 2012 23:18 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
MMA showing dat disrespect to Boxer. The only justification would have been if Boxer/Jessica embezzled the money....which I honestly have a seriously hard time believing.....

Considering the players/coah agreed, It's not hard to believe.


could it be because the accounts were mixed? jessica said boxer used a lot of his own money (and jessica's) to build the team maybe they didn't have a very clear separation of accounts so they pooled the money in for themselves as well as the team, and so manager j used that to... whoever's advantage?


That's no way of running a business... or stuff like this happens.
It's hard to expect people to act professionally when there is no professional structure.
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trwkling
Profile Joined September 2011
658 Posts
October 17 2012 14:25 GMT
#526
On October 17 2012 23:24 SupLilSon wrote:
One thing I don't get is what was the motivation behind Manager J's actions? Was he colluding with ESF teams/SC2con to undermine SlayerS and bring the players into a new team that would join ESF? Otherwise I don't see why he'd purposely sever potentially lucrative sponsorships when SlayerS was a relatively successful team.


fame-seeking? he did want to create a new team. maybe he wanted to use slayers fame to earn some more ££ and not settle for a manager
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
October 17 2012 14:25 GMT
#527
On October 17 2012 23:09 ranjutan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 23:01 Conti wrote:
On October 17 2012 22:53 frequency wrote:
Next part:

- But.. I was told by others that he is streaming and looking for a foreign team. So I asked him why he had to lie and what his unprofessional attitutes are for. I asked him if he knew why MMA wanted to leave the team. He answered 'it's because of me - when I told MMA that I want to move to another team because of the team atmosphere, MMA wanted to join me'. I asked MMA whether it was true and he denied.


Other parts: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376041&currentpage=8#156


Huh. In the other parts, didn't Jessica basically say that MMA wanted to form a new team and steal Slayers' players or something? This makes it sound like MMA simply wanted to go wherever Crank wanted to go. Big difference.

To be honest, I get a bad vibe about Jessica from the translations done her (thank you so much for the translation, by the way), but I can't quite put my finger on it why. Weird.


No. She said that some former manager J offered to Slayers players to join a new team that he would form and get sponsored, and MMA agreed. This seems to be a separate incident, as manager J's team never materialized and he was probably out of the picture by this point (of MMA's demotion). Perhaps you're getting some of this bad vibe because you are not remembering correctly.

Actually, I think it's more because Jessica comes off as quite confrontational even in her own words. Even after reading it all again I don't see why she had to demote MMA instead of working things out with him. He was obviously unhappy to begin with, demoting him surely didn't help in that regard. On top of that, according to the post, the players, other managers, other teams and other team's managers are all at fault, one way or another. It's hard to believe that it's as simple as "Everyone is evil but me".

Be that as it may. R.I.P. Slayers.
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
October 17 2012 14:26 GMT
#528
Wow. This is so, so, so sad to read. Everything about this just seems wrong.

I'm really astonished.
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mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
October 17 2012 14:26 GMT
#529
On October 17 2012 23:18 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
MMA showing dat disrespect to Boxer. The only justification would have been if Boxer/Jessica embezzled the money....which I honestly have a seriously hard time believing.....


Or if they were doing a shitty job managing a team, which it sounds like they were, unfortunately.
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-Jacob-
Profile Joined November 2010
358 Posts
October 17 2012 14:26 GMT
#530
R.I.P Slayers. I'll only remember the good memories not the bad ones.

MMA still my favorite player. I remember watching him beat MVP at Blizzcon and the crowd chanting his name.
Rawr
Manager
Profile Joined September 2011
Singapore9 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 14:27:11
October 17 2012 14:26 GMT
#531
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5524 Posts
October 17 2012 14:26 GMT
#532
On October 17 2012 23:23 CoR wrote:
coca and puzzle left sc2 full ? OH NO

I know, this is the worst news.
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S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
October 17 2012 14:26 GMT
#533
Since SlayerS technically does not exist anymore does this mean Kespa teams can pick these players up?
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
October 17 2012 14:26 GMT
#534
MMA and Crank showing that disrespect to Boxer.

Disappointed in them.
Play your best
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
October 17 2012 14:27 GMT
#535
On October 17 2012 23:25 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
the whole son of boxer thing MMA had just went down the shitter :/

Sad that their relationship soured to the point that Boxer considered MMA "a cancer to the team". I remember them at MLG Anaheim D:


Actually, this could make a great storyline. Boxer vs MMA showmatch Bo9 please, followed by an actual MMA fight. Like chess boxing!
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 17 2012 14:27 GMT
#536
On October 17 2012 23:25 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 23:09 ranjutan wrote:
On October 17 2012 23:01 Conti wrote:
On October 17 2012 22:53 frequency wrote:
Next part:

- But.. I was told by others that he is streaming and looking for a foreign team. So I asked him why he had to lie and what his unprofessional attitutes are for. I asked him if he knew why MMA wanted to leave the team. He answered 'it's because of me - when I told MMA that I want to move to another team because of the team atmosphere, MMA wanted to join me'. I asked MMA whether it was true and he denied.


Other parts: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376041&currentpage=8#156


Huh. In the other parts, didn't Jessica basically say that MMA wanted to form a new team and steal Slayers' players or something? This makes it sound like MMA simply wanted to go wherever Crank wanted to go. Big difference.

To be honest, I get a bad vibe about Jessica from the translations done her (thank you so much for the translation, by the way), but I can't quite put my finger on it why. Weird.


No. She said that some former manager J offered to Slayers players to join a new team that he would form and get sponsored, and MMA agreed. This seems to be a separate incident, as manager J's team never materialized and he was probably out of the picture by this point (of MMA's demotion). Perhaps you're getting some of this bad vibe because you are not remembering correctly.

Actually, I think it's more because Jessica comes off as quite confrontational even in her own words. Even after reading it all again I don't see why she had to demote MMA instead of working things out with him. He was obviously unhappy to begin with, demoting him surely didn't help in that regard. On top of that, according to the post, the players, other managers, other teams and other team's managers are all at fault, one way or another. It's hard to believe that it's as simple as "Everyone is evil but me".

Be that as it may. R.I.P. Slayers.

Exactly right on point.
Moderatorlickypiddy
Zealot Lord
Profile Joined May 2010
Hong Kong748 Posts
October 17 2012 14:27 GMT
#537
So Puzzle/Min/Coca won't be in the SC2 scene anymore ?? omg
Cuce
Profile Joined March 2011
Turkey1127 Posts
October 17 2012 14:27 GMT
#538
seems like we gave too much shit to jessica.
well now I'm glad boxer left the team then. even more glad it disbanded.

slayers still have some great players, I hope some other team woudl pick them up.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 17 2012 14:28 GMT
#539
On October 17 2012 23:27 mikedebo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 23:25 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
the whole son of boxer thing MMA had just went down the shitter :/

Sad that their relationship soured to the point that Boxer considered MMA "a cancer to the team". I remember them at MLG Anaheim D:


Actually, this could make a great storyline. Boxer vs MMA showmatch Bo9 please, followed by an actual MMA fight. Like chess boxing!


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Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 14:29:04
October 17 2012 14:28 GMT
#540
On October 17 2012 23:21 Fragile51 wrote:
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On October 17 2012 23:19 Goldfish wrote:
The talk about federation not listening to both sides of the story sounds right.

Remember the Coach Lee incident?


Take note this was the old eSports Federation rather than the new one.

I can see the NASL stuff and the other fiascos that happened between ESF and Slayers being true easily (the Coach Lee incident is the more famous and known one that was ESF's wrongdoing).


It's called SC2con, not "the old esf".


Ahh, oh yeah. Though, it seems they're referring to SC2con as ESF (at least in the translation).

As far as I remember, the NASL incident happened with SC2 con rather than ESF (ESF came after the NASL incident right?).

Though to be fair, I really forgot >.<.
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