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renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
October 17 2012 13:56 GMT
#421
On October 17 2012 22:47 gosublade wrote:
Liquid`Brown fighting


aka diarrhea

seriously upsetting to see slayers go like this, I'm trying to reserve judgement until official statements are released from all parties. As much as I love Jessica I can't take that translated post seriously, its way too biased.

Hopefully something official comes out soon.
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1961 Posts
October 17 2012 13:56 GMT
#422
This makes me really sad
Although Jessica might have been a loudmouth on her twitter several times, I just can't imagine why she should lie about this (c'mon she's a famous actress and BoxeR's fiancee, why should she steal (kinda her own money) from the team?! I don't get it... Also think that BoxeR's the last person to blame for this...
Just very, very sad, as I followed Slayers the last two years until BoxeR's departure... FUCK SC, get your shit together ALREADY!!!!
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
October 17 2012 13:57 GMT
#423
Farewell SC2, we hardly knew ye.
storywriter
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia528 Posts
October 17 2012 13:57 GMT
#424
On October 17 2012 22:49 FXOBoSs wrote:
Guys,

Its easy to go out in a blaze of glory.. The slayers players, managers (even with my own personal run ins) are all great people. We should rather appreciate what was given to us by their presence rather than start drama digging.

Just to be clear on 1 thing. Jessica's references appear to be on the old organisation not the current ESF. Even I had a run in with them and I am glad that org is gone. The current one however, runs a relatively sound operation that has not only impressed me, but helped me be calm amongst all the drama that goes on in Korea.

I leave you with this. Its better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved before.

I hope that Cella and the Slayers family all end up in great positions and are in our gaming lives in the future.

I don't follow. The current ESF consists of people who made up the old organisation, no?
Translator
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
October 17 2012 13:57 GMT
#425
So sad.. I never even heard anything about them after Boxer left T_T
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
TSBspartacus
Profile Joined October 2011
England1046 Posts
October 17 2012 13:57 GMT
#426
dafuq.
Was coming, but still. They produced some of the biggest talent out there, and just collapse this easily.
PardonYou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1360 Posts
October 17 2012 13:58 GMT
#427
So this is true this time? So sad. I'm sure they'll find a new team soon. Maybe some will go to axiom.
AzureHath
Profile Joined October 2011
Bulgaria154 Posts
October 17 2012 13:59 GMT
#428
SlayerS nooo... :<
BW: iloveoov/JulyZerg/BoxeR/Midas/NaDa/Bisu[Shield] | SC2: IdrA/HuK/Grubby/WhiteRa/DIMAGA/JulyZerg/DongRaeGu
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
October 17 2012 13:59 GMT
#429
On October 17 2012 22:56 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 22:55 sAsImre wrote:
On October 17 2012 22:54 Wildmoon wrote:
On October 17 2012 22:49 bGr.MetHiX wrote:
Puzzle switching to LoL,you gotta be kidding me


It's actually a good decision. If you think you can't play at super high level right now then you should rethink about your career because with Kespa players and ESF players competition is ridiculuosly tough.


Way more money in LoL right now too.

really? afaik SC2 has better prize support as well as income support hrm


the prize distribution is shitty but if you're at the top it's better (and not being at the top sucks anyway in esport). Dunno about salaries and co tho.
Zest fanboy.
ThreeActPlay
Profile Joined April 2011
United States249 Posts
October 17 2012 13:59 GMT
#430
this is such a bummer :\ really loved watching slayers, and this sours my whole enjoyment of the korean scene, seeing how the ESF treated SlayerS.
twitter.com/haethos
Svetgm
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada76 Posts
October 17 2012 13:59 GMT
#431
Slayers...disbanding....guess EG is next how can such a strong team in the community disband...
Frostfire
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States419 Posts
October 17 2012 13:59 GMT
#432
What about Eve?

What about Cella?

What about the coaches
"In solitude, we are least alone"
FXOBoSs
Profile Joined August 2011
337 Posts
October 17 2012 13:59 GMT
#433
On October 17 2012 22:57 storywriter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 22:49 FXOBoSs wrote:
Guys,

Its easy to go out in a blaze of glory.. The slayers players, managers (even with my own personal run ins) are all great people. We should rather appreciate what was given to us by their presence rather than start drama digging.

Just to be clear on 1 thing. Jessica's references appear to be on the old organisation not the current ESF. Even I had a run in with them and I am glad that org is gone. The current one however, runs a relatively sound operation that has not only impressed me, but helped me be calm amongst all the drama that goes on in Korea.

I leave you with this. Its better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved before.

I hope that Cella and the Slayers family all end up in great positions and are in our gaming lives in the future.

I don't follow. The current ESF consists of people who made up the old organisation, no?


Minus the person who made the original judgements.
www.twitter.com/gosutrading
styleworks79
Profile Joined May 2011
United States127 Posts
October 17 2012 14:00 GMT
#434
On October 17 2012 22:56 Creager wrote:
This makes me really sad
Although Jessica might have been a loudmouth on her twitter several times, I just can't imagine why she should lie about this (c'mon she's a famous actress and BoxeR's fiancee, why should she steal (kinda her own money) from the team?! I don't get it... Also think that BoxeR's the last person to blame for this...
Just very, very sad, as I followed Slayers the last two years until BoxeR's departure... FUCK SC, get your shit together ALREADY!!!!


I concur.

Even though Jessica's reputation, I don't think she is ill enough to dig her own grave.
Ares[S2000] West Op AresClan 난 요환이가 한번은 우승할거라고 믿어!
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
October 17 2012 14:00 GMT
#435
On October 17 2012 22:55 RoninKenshin wrote:
Poor Eve. What will she do now? And how will I be able to meet her and her incredibly cute friends if she no longer has reason to show up to events?

On a side note, Cella told me once that Intel sponsorship was only designated for Boxer. So while they Slayers was one of the richest teams during conception, it was all in Boxer/Jessica pockets. I'm sure they dug into that to fund the house and what not, but the players were definitely not paid even close to substantially. And even if they did pay out the entire $200,000 + other sponsorships to the players, it would still just amount to your basic full-time minimum wage salary at best (in the meagre Korean minimum wage, not the luxurious other country ones).

The problem with all of the GSL teams was that they were created without major sponsors in hopes that SC2 would become incredibly popular and that they would cash out. The wave wasn't as big as they thought, and both teams and players stuck with it as long as possible in order to see if they could make it. This leads massive player hops, especially when someone suddenly breaks out and the spotlight is on him. Sure players were bound by contracts, but when your compensation is like $500 a month, and you're a minor without enough of a reputation/assets to care about being sued, those contracts mean very little to you. Fast forward to today, none of Slayers A-team sees a point in chasing the dream any more and realize that LoL seems to be a more lucrative option (but will probably succumb to the same problems, as the system is essentially the same, just the viewership is a bit higher).

Every single Kespa team (save team 8) is backed by the largest companies in Korea, and receives enough money to pay 6 figure salaries to their top players, compensation that would be worth sacrificing a regular job for to mid performers and the rest, as well as take entire teams of 15-25 to Hawaii or whatever for Proleague celebrations/training camps. We're talking well over the $1 million mark to make a team worth joining (and sacrificing your chances of getting accepted into a good university, which is what Koreans live and die for).

Long story short, this is not Boxer's fault. This is not Jessica's fault. This certainly isn't sweet beautiful Eve's fault. This is simply a result of projected returns on investment not being realized during the GSL gold rush. Luckily IM got LG and ST got Redbull, although I'm sure that they do not receive as much money as Kespa teams. Management for GSL teams strikes me as a bit incompetent.

You can go as far as to say that this is GSL's fault. They created a league for the game while it was still in beta with a massive prize pool that seemed too good to pass up. At a rate of one massive tournament per month/2months in which 64 spots got paid and first place was $100,000 and 2nd place $50,000, people had to scramble to turn their clans of friends into "teams," and never had time to establish proper contracts, operation systems, long term plans, competent management, and so on. Today could be very different if GSL had a smaller tournament for the Beta, and gave time for teams to properly form before the next tournaments, so as to not leave room for all the player stealing/leaving/dissatisfaction controversies we've had over these past 2 years that scare away sponsors.

Makes you think.

I love Eve.


Agreed with that. More will disband as well. A few months ago I would've thought SlayerS could be one of the ones that survive once the KESPA teams come in, but after BoxeR left it seemed only a matter of time.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 17 2012 14:00 GMT
#436
I seriously cannot comprehend in my brain how MMA could possibly have been " bullied " by ESF players, he's a motherfucking two time GSL champion. How could they show such disrespect?
MiQ
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada312 Posts
October 17 2012 14:00 GMT
#437
Sad day for Starcraft and e-Sports.. RIP Slayers
Tons of damage
Jtom
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
October 17 2012 14:00 GMT
#438
Thanks for everything Slayers! Goodbye
"Daddy, how did the Protossaurs go extinct?" "A giant EMP hit the earth" - Fionn
OhThatDang
Profile Joined August 2004
United States4685 Posts
October 17 2012 14:01 GMT
#439
On October 17 2012 22:59 Svetgm wrote:
Slayers...disbanding....guess EG is next how can such a strong team in the community disband...


read all the events and you shall know :p
troi oi thang map nai!!!
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
October 17 2012 14:01 GMT
#440
On October 17 2012 22:53 frequency wrote:
Next part:

Show nested quote +
- But.. I was told by others that he is streaming and looking for a foreign team. So I asked him why he had to lie and what his unprofessional attitutes are for. I asked him if he knew why MMA wanted to leave the team. He answered 'it's because of me - when I told MMA that I want to move to another team because of the team atmosphere, MMA wanted to join me'. I asked MMA whether it was true and he denied.


Other parts: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376041&currentpage=8#156


Huh. In the other parts, didn't Jessica basically say that MMA wanted to form a new team and steal Slayers' players or something? This makes it sound like MMA simply wanted to go wherever Crank wanted to go. Big difference.

To be honest, I get a bad vibe about Jessica from the translations done her (thank you so much for the translation, by the way), but I can't quite put my finger on it why. Weird.
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