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et
Switzerland367 Posts
On October 17 2012 22:50 HonorZ wrote: Cella @SlayersCella Good time to drink!  Hmmm.... Well... That reaction is ... interresting xD Did you expect any other kind of reaction from Cella?  | ||
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Ansinjunger
United States2451 Posts
On October 17 2012 22:44 opterown wrote: more drama and threats than any other team manager, too Even if she's dramatic, Boxer should be able to say if she's lying, so why would she? Before the conspiracy theories begin, I don't think she exerts any mind control over BoxeR, or bf/gf dominance or w/e. It didn't stop him from rejoining SKT. | ||
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Dephy
Lithuania163 Posts
Jessica is annoying b****. User was banned for this post. | ||
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shadowy
Bulgaria305 Posts
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xXFireandIceXx
Canada4296 Posts
On October 17 2012 22:52 Dephy wrote: tl;dr Jessica is annoying b****. Well in this case, do actually read. | ||
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styleworks79
United States127 Posts
On October 17 2012 22:52 Dephy wrote: tl;dr Jessica is annoying b****. that is very unproductive input. | ||
NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
I really hope Slayers players manage to find new homes for themselves. | ||
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frequency
Australia1901 Posts
- The reason why MMA got demoted was not that. I have explained why he was being bullied and mocked and got him comprehended. That's when Crank and MMA hung around alot after that. Crank visited me and complained that the team atmosphere was so bad, he felt pressured and stressed. That's when I asked BoxeR, who at the time was resting to sort out his shoulder problem, to stay in the team house and look after them. - However, Crank complained once again that talking to the coach and BoxeR's presence did not make any difference and asked me what I actually did. I felt very sorry to him. My player is complaining and all I did didn't help him.. - Crank told me that because his neck is sore, he needed to rest. This was right before GSTL quarter finals. He said as he finished preparing for his game and he can pratise that only. I asked Cella if it's ok for him to go home and Cella told me that he has got his build order prepared for a map so he may go home. - That weekend, he texted me requesting to be removed from the entry. Because he seemed so ill, I talked to him on messenger to see if he was ok. He didn't answer so I left a message saying 'Rest well physically and mentally peacefully and see you at the stadium'. He then texted Cella 'what is she doing this to me?' .. I don't know what I did - That's when Cella told me that he wanted to quit and is not practising at home. He wanted to quit and rest and he has no intention of moving to another team so he begged me to release him from the contract. I had no intention of holding his back and I agreed that he wanted to rest so I let him go. - But.. I was told by others that he is streaming and looking for a foreign team. So I asked him why he had to lie and what his unprofessional attitutes are for. I asked him if he knew why MMA wanted to leave the team. He answered 'it's because of me - when I told MMA that I want to move to another team because of the team atmosphere, MMA wanted to join me'. I asked MMA whether it was true and he denied. Other parts: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376041¤tpage=8#156 | ||
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
On October 17 2012 22:51 et wrote: Did you expect any other kind of reaction from Cella? I love Cella | ||
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juicy
Australia145 Posts
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Gendo
United Kingdom216 Posts
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
On October 17 2012 22:49 bGr.MetHiX wrote: Puzzle switching to LoL,you gotta be kidding me It's actually a good decision. If you think you can't play at super high level right now then you should rethink about your career because with Kespa players and ESF players competition is ridiculuosly tough. | ||
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ES.Genie
Germany1370 Posts
Also GSTL getting smaller and smaller is very bad. :/ | ||
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achan1058
1091 Posts
On October 17 2012 22:49 FXOBoSs wrote: Guys, Its easy to go out in a blaze of glory.. The slayers players, managers (even with my own personal run ins) are all great people. We should rather appreciate what was given to us by their presence rather than start drama digging. Just to be clear on 1 thing. Jessica's references appear to be on the old organisation not the current ESF. Even I had a run in with them and I am glad that org is gone. The current one however, runs a relatively sound operation that has not only impressed me, but helped me be calm amongst all the drama that goes on in Korea. I leave you with this. Its better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved before. I hope that Cella and the Slayers family all end up in great positions and are in our gaming lives in the future. The one that FXO dropped out of? | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On October 17 2012 22:54 Wildmoon wrote: It's actually a good decision. If you think you can't play at super high level right now then you should rethink about your career because with Kespa players and ESF players competition is ridiculuosly tough. Way more money in LoL right now too. | ||
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VidyaYuropa
87 Posts
Perfect suit for Team Eli | ||
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
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RoninKenshin
Canada97 Posts
On a side note, Cella told me once that Intel sponsorship was only designated for Boxer. So while they Slayers was one of the richest teams during conception, it was all in Boxer/Jessica pockets. I'm sure they dug into that to fund the house and what not, but the players were definitely not paid even close to substantially. And even if they did pay out the entire $200,000 + other sponsorships to the players, it would still just amount to your basic full-time minimum wage salary at best (in the meagre Korean minimum wage, not the luxurious other country ones). The problem with all of the GSL teams was that they were created without major sponsors in hopes that SC2 would become incredibly popular and that they would cash out. The wave wasn't as big as they thought, and both teams and players stuck with it as long as possible in order to see if they could make it. This leads massive player hops, especially when someone suddenly breaks out and the spotlight is on him. Sure players were bound by contracts, but when your compensation is like $500 a month, and you're a minor without enough of a reputation/assets to care about being sued, those contracts mean very little to you. Fast forward to today, none of Slayers A-team sees a point in chasing the dream any more and realize that LoL seems to be a more lucrative option (but will probably succumb to the same problems, as the system is essentially the same, just the viewership is a bit higher). Every single Kespa team (save team 8) is backed by the largest companies in Korea, and receives enough money to pay 6 figure salaries to their top players, compensation that would be worth sacrificing a regular job for to mid performers and the rest, as well as take entire teams of 15-25 to Hawaii or whatever for Proleague celebrations/training camps. We're talking well over the $1 million mark to make a team worth joining (and sacrificing your chances of getting accepted into a good university, which is what Koreans live and die for). Long story short, this is not Boxer's fault. This is not Jessica's fault. This certainly isn't sweet beautiful Eve's fault. This is simply a result of projected returns on investment not being realized during the GSL gold rush. Luckily IM got LG and ST got Redbull, although I'm sure that they do not receive as much money as Kespa teams. Management for GSL teams strikes me as a bit incompetent. You can go as far as to say that this is GSL's fault. They created a league for the game while it was still in beta with a massive prize pool that seemed too good to pass up. At a rate of one massive tournament per month/2months in which 64 spots got paid and first place was $100,000 and 2nd place $50,000, people had to scramble to turn their clans of friends into "teams," and never had time to establish proper contracts, operation systems, long term plans, competent management, and so on. Today could be very different if GSL had a smaller tournament for the Beta, and gave time for teams to properly form before the next tournaments, so as to not leave room for all the player stealing/leaving/dissatisfaction controversies we've had over these past 2 years that scare away sponsors. Makes you think. I love Eve. | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
really? afaik SC2 has better prize support as well as income support hrm | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
On October 17 2012 22:54 Wildmoon wrote: It's actually a good decision. If you think you can't play at super high level right now then you should rethink about your career because with Kespa players and ESF players competition is ridiculuosly tough. Except he was playing at a high level. He practically carried SlayerS to the last GSTL finals before falling 'sick'. | ||
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