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Betelgeuse
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada210 Posts
September 01 2012 11:55 GMT
#321
Well I hope mana likes pvt :/
Through victory, my chains are broken.
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
September 01 2012 11:55 GMT
#322
These groups are impossible to predict, each has so much POWER!
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
September 01 2012 11:57 GMT
#323
Daaaamn Group E is sick

Also, jaedong gets a rude awakening at GSL, he should get smashed , particularly considering how he played yesterday in PL. He played so bad it was infuriating.
2v2TLRSimba
Profile Joined August 2012
25 Posts
September 01 2012 11:57 GMT
#324
Come on Byun!!! Best terran in the world
neckgripper
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada100 Posts
September 01 2012 12:01 GMT
#325
On September 01 2012 17:46 cablesc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 17:07 neckgripper wrote:
MC afraid to face life, so chooses JD who has way less experience but more notoriety. I hope JD crushes MC.


Lolwhat? MC isn't afraid to face anybody. He has time and again picked the top players in order to create huge matchups and "groups of death".

MC picking the most famous and high profile player in the tournament was the most obvious thing for him to do.


MC's best matchup is pvz, if he wanted to create a group of death, he woulda chose someone other than JD. He practices with JD and he said that kespa zergs were waay behind gsl zergs. One can already tell MC beat JD most of the times in their practices. The reason he chose JD is so he can have an easy path through code S.

There were 3 zergs in the tier 4 list. Line, life and JD. Line was taken by seed already, so MC took the easier zerg in JD cause he knows life is pretty damn good. If mc really wanted to make it a group of death, he shoulda chose bomber, rain, yoda or life since those four are the best ones there.
althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
September 01 2012 12:01 GMT
#326
Group E the group of death? Seriously. Group E has Taeja who is white-hot, MVP who is injured, MMA who is not at his best and Mana who is a foreigner (but still seems likely to make it out because MVP and MMA aren't that great right now and Mana is strong in PvT).

Group A and B are by FAR the strongest groups. Both are complete bullshit with six out of the eight players in those groups capable of winning the whole tournament. The ones I'm saying won't win are Ryung, the best SlayerS Terran and SuHoSin, who is in very good form at the moment. Netiher are good enough to win though. Yoda is I guess not well-known, but he is probably IMs best player, except maybe for Seed in terms of current form).

Group E is Taeja and some randoms, although to be fair anybody could make it out of that group because Taeja is not a fantastic TvTer. Runner up in the poll is Group C which has MC and MKP who is not at the top of his game (still formidable). It also has two zergs which probably won't make it out of the group and DEFINITELY won't make it to the Ro8, pretty much no matter what.
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X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
September 01 2012 12:08 GMT
#327
On September 01 2012 21:01 althaz wrote:
Group E the group of death? Seriously. Group E has Taeja who is white-hot, MVP who is injured, MMA who is not at his best and Mana who is a foreigner (but still seems likely to make it out because MVP and MMA aren't that great right now and Mana is strong in PvT).

Group A and B are by FAR the strongest groups. Both are complete bullshit with six out of the eight players in those groups capable of winning the whole tournament. The ones I'm saying won't win are Ryung, the best SlayerS Terran and SuHoSin, who is in very good form at the moment. Netiher are good enough to win though. Yoda is I guess not well-known, but he is probably IMs best player, except maybe for Seed in terms of current form).

Group E is Taeja and some randoms, although to be fair anybody could make it out of that group because Taeja is not a fantastic TvTer. Runner up in the poll is Group C which has MC and MKP who is not at the top of his game (still formidable). It also has two zergs which probably won't make it out of the group and DEFINITELY won't make it to the Ro8, pretty much no matter what.


sigh, curious REALLY is underrated lol.............................. also MVP just won IEM like 2 weeks ago, MMA stormed his way back into the scene...... mana is like top 5 foreigner AT LEAST........ mkp is only slumping slightly
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 12:11:30
September 01 2012 12:10 GMT
#328
On September 01 2012 21:01 althaz wrote:
Group E the group of death? Seriously. Group E has Taeja who is white-hot, MVP who is injured, MMA who is not at his best and Mana who is a foreigner (but still seems likely to make it out because MVP and MMA aren't that great right now and Mana is strong in PvT).

Group A and B are by FAR the strongest groups. Both are complete bullshit with six out of the eight players in those groups capable of winning the whole tournament. The ones I'm saying won't win are Ryung, the best SlayerS Terran and SuHoSin, who is in very good form at the moment. Netiher are good enough to win though. Yoda is I guess not well-known, but he is probably IMs best player, except maybe for Seed in terms of current form).

Group E is Taeja and some randoms, although to be fair anybody could make it out of that group because Taeja is not a fantastic TvTer. Runner up in the poll is Group C which has MC and MKP who is not at the top of his game (still formidable). It also has two zergs which probably won't make it out of the group and DEFINITELY won't make it to the Ro8, pretty much no matter what.


All of the groups are pretty massively stacked in terms of not being easy to predict at all from a relatively objective standpoint (i.e. without any fanboy bias whatsoever). GSL is seeing tremendous improvement compared to early-mid 2011, you can at best predict one guy who won't advance and even then there will be upsets no doubt. On a different note, who do you even cheer for, given some of these groups ;_;

I hope Jaedong and By.Sun prove they're deserving of the seed at least, that will be interesting to watch.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Armagreen
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland16 Posts
September 01 2012 12:12 GMT
#329
Mana you can do it :D Oh man :D
Odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Chronos.
Profile Joined February 2012
United States805 Posts
September 01 2012 12:14 GMT
#330
Group E is just brutal. Always I feel sorry for Jaedong, his first GSL and he gets stuck in a group with MC and MKP T_T
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2267 Posts
September 01 2012 12:17 GMT
#331
On September 01 2012 16:03 Kluey wrote:
Every group is a group of death...


Group G is a group of Life ;P
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
GreggSauce
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States566 Posts
September 01 2012 12:20 GMT
#332
group A
Leenock and Parting Advance

Group B
Hero and Symbol Advance

Group C
MKP and MC Advance

Group D
Genius and Rain Advance

Group E
MVP and Taeja Advance

Group F
Heart and Squirtle Advance

Group G
Life and Nestea Advance

Group H
Bomber and DRG Advance
Must not sleep, must warn others
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
September 01 2012 12:25 GMT
#333
Ahahahaha, MaNa I heard you like PvT, WELL HERE.

Group A is going to be the hardest group imo. Line is meh, ye, but he did well in the up and downs and Leenock Seeeeedu and PartinG are easily 3 players you'd expect to be in the semis with ease. PartinG probably the weakest there of late but he'll practice it up, just needs to tune up his PvZ.

Byun got the best group he could hope for, really hope he lets it show. Unfortunately with Happy's TvP I don't see him advancing but at least its not a team kill anymore haha. For group C I actually see MC/Jaedong and Curious advancing. I wanna be proven wrong but Curious is so fucking good, just under the radar, and MKP hasn't really been MKPin it up recently.

DRG probably couldn't be happier, very nice group but it will be hard, difficult to predict that one. Group G will be fun, pretty much comes down to whether SuperNoVa can win his TvZs or not. JYP will most likely advance I really see NesTea in last place, Life's ZvZ is really fucking good and JYP is equally skilled PvZ.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
executorx
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany81 Posts
September 01 2012 12:26 GMT
#334
Poor Mana in group E :D

MMA vs MVP lets hope its gonna be great TvT as in the past.

Group H: DRG should be really comfortablewith this group as he is/was a big Terran Killer... on the other hand Bomber, Polt and Gumiho are strong opponents.
INnoVation > ALL!
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
September 01 2012 12:31 GMT
#335
On September 01 2012 21:25 Badfatpanda wrote:
Ahahahaha, MaNa I heard you like PvT, WELL HERE.

Group A is going to be the hardest group imo. Line is meh, ye, but he did well in the up and downs and Leenock Seeeeedu and PartinG are easily 3 players you'd expect to be in the semis with ease. PartinG probably the weakest there of late but he'll practice it up, just needs to tune up his PvZ.

Byun got the best group he could hope for, really hope he lets it show. Unfortunately with Happy's TvP I don't see him advancing but at least its not a team kill anymore haha. For group C I actually see MC/Jaedong and Curious advancing. I wanna be proven wrong but Curious is so fucking good, just under the radar, and MKP hasn't really been MKPin it up recently.

DRG probably couldn't be happier, very nice group but it will be hard, difficult to predict that one. Group G will be fun, pretty much comes down to whether SuperNoVa can win his TvZs or not. JYP will most likely advance I really see NesTea in last place, Life's ZvZ is really fucking good and JYP is equally skilled PvZ.


i think seed is the weakest atm of those 3 since he bombed out of the wcs korea with a 2-0 loss to parting then to roro.
how can drg be happy, his group has 3 fairly strong but inconsistent terrans...... i can see mkp going through, mc is not the bosstoss he used to be and jaedong just isnt up to par
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
kvn4444
Profile Joined September 2010
1510 Posts
September 01 2012 12:31 GMT
#336
poor mana, if he makes it through then wow, would be really impressive. naniwa's group is ok, should make it out.
GreggSauce
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States566 Posts
September 01 2012 12:33 GMT
#337
On September 01 2012 21:01 althaz wrote:
Group E the group of death? Seriously. Group E has Taeja who is white-hot, MVP who is injured, MMA who is not at his best and Mana who is a foreigner (but still seems likely to make it out because MVP and MMA aren't that great right now and Mana is strong in PvT).

Group A and B are by FAR the strongest groups. Both are complete bullshit with six out of the eight players in those groups capable of winning the whole tournament. The ones I'm saying won't win are Ryung, the best SlayerS Terran and SuHoSin, who is in very good form at the moment. Netiher are good enough to win though. Yoda is I guess not well-known, but he is probably IMs best player, except maybe for Seed in terms of current form).

Group E is Taeja and some randoms, although to be fair anybody could make it out of that group because Taeja is not a fantastic TvTer. Runner up in the poll is Group C which has MC and MKP who is not at the top of his game (still formidable). It also has two zergs which probably won't make it out of the group and DEFINITELY won't make it to the Ro8, pretty much no matter what.


Although I do agree that group E isn't quite the group of death, its just more or less a group of death from the foreigner perspective... You couldn't really piece together a much harder group for Mana to get out of. While I would put mana ahead of MMA right now, I can't put him ahead of taeja no matter what or MVP. MVP has been injured this whole time... He's been resting, and he's still been putting in solid results. Using that excuse would only work if he was slumping. Either way as of late MVP has been having more success TvT than MMA and should take the series.

Group A
could be the group of death if the groups were only 3 players. Suhosin doesn't belong in code S. So with that said that makes it much easier to guess who will get out of the group. Group E is much harder to guess than this group.
I got Leenock and Parting

Group B
EZPZ Hero and Symbol. I think this was probably the most straightforward group. Hero isn't great, but he's better than these guys, and Symbol is better than them as well. Yoda almost belongs, and Ryung does but is just barely outmatched. I guess I could see Ryung taking it if he manages to get by hero, but I just don't see it.

so basically you said group A and B are the hardest, but they both have 1 player that would be an extreme upset if he made it out.

A group of death is a group where all the players should be in the round of 16, not when only 3 of the players should be.
Must not sleep, must warn others
Ritchie
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada206 Posts
September 01 2012 12:37 GMT
#338
Group E wow...
After all, we just want to be happy, don't we?
GreggSauce
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States566 Posts
September 01 2012 12:38 GMT
#339
On September 01 2012 21:31 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 21:25 Badfatpanda wrote:
Ahahahaha, MaNa I heard you like PvT, WELL HERE.

Group A is going to be the hardest group imo. Line is meh, ye, but he did well in the up and downs and Leenock Seeeeedu and PartinG are easily 3 players you'd expect to be in the semis with ease. PartinG probably the weakest there of late but he'll practice it up, just needs to tune up his PvZ.

Byun got the best group he could hope for, really hope he lets it show. Unfortunately with Happy's TvP I don't see him advancing but at least its not a team kill anymore haha. For group C I actually see MC/Jaedong and Curious advancing. I wanna be proven wrong but Curious is so fucking good, just under the radar, and MKP hasn't really been MKPin it up recently.

DRG probably couldn't be happier, very nice group but it will be hard, difficult to predict that one. Group G will be fun, pretty much comes down to whether SuperNoVa can win his TvZs or not. JYP will most likely advance I really see NesTea in last place, Life's ZvZ is really fucking good and JYP is equally skilled PvZ.


i think seed is the weakest atm of those 3 since he bombed out of the wcs korea with a 2-0 loss to parting then to roro.
how can drg be happy, his group has 3 fairly strong but inconsistent terrans...... i can see mkp going through, mc is not the bosstoss he used to be and jaedong just isnt up to par


wait... did you just say MC isn't the bosstoss he used to be? Who has consistently won, or almost won every single thing he's entered?

MC and MKP are the strongest by far in that group. The issue would actually be with MKP and his current half-assery in his games. If he slips up Curious will take his spot.
Must not sleep, must warn others
mRpolite
Profile Joined March 2012
189 Posts
September 01 2012 12:40 GMT
#340
MEGA
so exited!!!!!
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