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Kaien
Profile Joined August 2011
Belgium178 Posts
August 24 2012 17:36 GMT
#161
I dont mind moletrap that much
but man, atleast one of the two casters should be high masters ..
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
August 24 2012 17:40 GMT
#162
A banner with Doa's injury topic needs to be added to this topic.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
August 24 2012 17:46 GMT
#163
OK this is ez.
Doa, we all know whats going on right now with him.
moletrap, not gonna say anything about that guy.
I will enjoy this OSL with korean casting as Ive done it for the last six years.

Get well Doa.
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 17:55:26
August 24 2012 17:51 GMT
#164
I personally don't find moletrap any more annoying than wolf and khaldor. Wolf's excited voice actually makes me cringe because it's always monotone and he leaves the end of every sentence hanging with the EXACT SAME INTONATION. Khaldor can also be quite monotone. So I won't be looking at this as any lower quality than code A.

Also I think it's reasonable to wait this out and give moletrap a second chance. It's just not necessary to say "derp derp mute" before watching some OSL. I mean I know it's fun to insult people you don't like but maybe do the mature thing and look back over what you wrote before hitting post .
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
August 24 2012 17:52 GMT
#165
I appreciate Moletrap's efforts, but I still think don't like his casting. I would be happier if he were to use his BW knowledge to write introductions for players or something akin, but I would very much prefer someone else in the role of caster.
Mooster
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada43 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 18:00:34
August 24 2012 17:58 GMT
#166
No, he doesn't know ANYTHING. His time on GOM he was calling complete bullshit all the time. Stuff like "these marauders are going to die" when there are 10 stim marauders vs 10 stalkers. This happened all the time. He doesn't know SHIT about the game. It's not just some korean metagame trend I'm talking about, he lacks the most basic knowledge about the game. If he was passionate about the game that wouldn't be the case. I don't think he's passionate, I just think he gets excited easily when casting or that he likes showcasing his high-pitched shitty voice.

Just because he went to korea to live his dream doesn't mean we have to admire him or like him, I don't care. I used to pay for his shit and that was painful. It's his job, not some kind of awesome work he does for the community or something.


Maybe he has trouble doing live broadcasts or has some nerve issues. But I still believe that his knowledge of the game is at high enough of a level to recognize unit counters and tactical advantages. The example you gave might have been a spur of the moment comment. But seriously, you saw the marauder vs stalker engagement happen, so why should moletrap's comment even matter to what's going on in the game? Not all casters are perfect, and maybe moletrap makes a few more mistakes than others, instead of calling bs, why don't you just think to yourself "oh, moletrap's so silly. I should be casting instead kekeke". We've all had moments where we spot certain aspects of a game that a caster hasn't caught onto. We want them to realize their mistake and comment on what they missed, but for the most part the commentary is supplement to the actual gameplay itself. Im glad you paid for GSL and supporting esports, and maybe you feel that moletrap doesn't deserve to get paid. I suggest you get in touch with moletrap and have a detailed discussion. Cuz clearly you're examples and complaints aren't justified to everyone in the greater scheme of things.
-note: sometimes i feel people take everything for granted and does not even bother to brush up on their history to see what others have gone through to bring about the great passions we enjoy such as esports.

Also for anyone interested, moletrap's youtube channel has a ton of vods with dual/triple commentaries of BW. Theres also his own videos on korean culture and interviews in kespa team houses.
Otak
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom110 Posts
August 24 2012 18:18 GMT
#167
Oh god no. Definitely watching on mute or maybe Incontrol will do a side by side cast of the games for us?
reptile
Profile Joined July 2010
United States210 Posts
August 24 2012 18:21 GMT
#168
This just further helps the protest against OSL. Might seem cold to say, but the majority clearly doesn't support Moletrap as a SC2 caster, I'm not sure why he would be casted for a major event.
"When the game is over, the King and the Pawn go back in the same box."
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
August 24 2012 18:24 GMT
#169
I thought moletrap stopped casting sc2 and went to LoL?
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
SPcrusader
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway99 Posts
August 24 2012 18:28 GMT
#170
Sadly, I agree with the majority on this one. Doa/Mole never did manage improve their casting. OSL korean cast it is!
https://www.twitch.tv/spcrusader
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
August 24 2012 18:32 GMT
#171
Not many zergies
johnny123
Profile Joined February 2012
521 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 18:44:04
August 24 2012 18:41 GMT
#172
moletrap casting OSL is even more bad news than DOA getting sick. This is absolutely terrible week of starcraft 2. OSL will be muted. Edit : actually i will be tuning into the korean commentary instead.
Favorite players,Stephano/MVP/Nestea/Gumiho/Life/Jaedong/MMA
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
August 24 2012 18:47 GMT
#173
:D I just noticed ma birthday sparkles+ hat
peiopeio
Profile Joined August 2011
France20 Posts
August 24 2012 19:17 GMT
#174
On August 25 2012 02:58 Mooster wrote:
Maybe he has trouble doing live broadcasts or has some nerve issues. But I still believe that his knowledge of the game is at high enough of a level to recognize unit counters and tactical advantages. The example you gave might have been a spur of the moment comment. But seriously, you saw the marauder vs stalker engagement happen, so why should moletrap's comment even matter to what's going on in the game? Not all casters are perfect, and maybe moletrap makes a few more mistakes than others, instead of calling bs, why don't you just think to yourself "oh, moletrap's so silly. I should be casting instead kekeke". We've all had moments where we spot certain aspects of a game that a caster hasn't caught onto. We want them to realize their mistake and comment on what they missed, but for the most part the commentary is supplement to the actual gameplay itself. Im glad you paid for GSL and supporting esports, and maybe you feel that moletrap doesn't deserve to get paid. I suggest you get in touch with moletrap and have a detailed discussion. Cuz clearly you're examples and complaints aren't justified to everyone in the greater scheme of things.
-note: sometimes i feel people take everything for granted and does not even bother to brush up on their history to see what others have gone through to bring about the great passions we enjoy such as esports.

Also for anyone interested, moletrap's youtube channel has a ton of vods with dual/triple commentaries of BW. Theres also his own videos on korean culture and interviews in kespa team houses.


If he has trouble doing live broadcasts then he shouldn't get paid to do it, that's kind of my point. If he has nerve issues then he shouldn't be paid to cast ffs !

Not all casters are perfect and everyone makes mistakes, that's fine. But his calls were mostly bullshit. He didn't say like one stupid thing a night, he was doing it all the time.

I don't understand what you mean by "clearly you're examples and complaints aren't justified to everyone in the greater scheme of things". Most people dislike moletrap. I'll give you another example: I don't like Doa and Wolf. They're not as bad as moletrap though and they actually know some stuff about the game. I don't like them, they make me cringe a lot. But I'm not going to post about it, because overall they're actually decent casters and you can tell they're making efforts.
From all his time at GOM, moletrap never improved. He was terrible at casting day 1 and he was still terrible in the end.

There were hundreds of posts on GOM about moletrap being terrible, same here. This isn't because people are mean or something, it's because people, in majority, really dislike his casting. People are allowed to have an opinion (specially when they're paying ...), we're not yelling "HURR DUURRRR DIE IN A FIRE MOLETRAP", we're just saying we hate his casting.
themask4f
Profile Joined December 2011
138 Posts
August 24 2012 19:19 GMT
#175
good news
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
August 24 2012 19:51 GMT
#176
On August 24 2012 16:34 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 16:27 Fionn wrote:
It's like I've traveled back to early 2011 GSL with Moletrap, Doa and Torch all on OGN.

Where's Kelly?


You know I was part of the minority that actually really liked Kelly casting. I think she just suffered from being the first perso not artosis or tasteless and that people didnt want to try to understand her.

Same minority. You get beyond the accent and intonation and she did a fine job. I've seen other comments about it in the thread, but honestly, I just tuned out the higher tone with which it was given.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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VL-Orion
Profile Joined April 2011
Indonesia78 Posts
August 27 2012 10:25 GMT
#177
Moletrap casting is bad, whether it is from analytical (he does not understand how the game works/fail to convey his knowledge) and his play by play is fall short when compared to Husky,DJwheat,Totalbiscuit and many others.

Its okay to have someone of moletrap caliber to cast small tournaments but for the OSL?, Id rather tune in to sayle cast (should he decided to cast OSL)
"The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers"
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
August 27 2012 10:27 GMT
#178
oh, it's degenerated into the usual caster bashing
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
qtiehunter
Profile Joined August 2012
1088 Posts
August 27 2012 10:31 GMT
#179
Can't wait for moletrap to get verbally and physically wet when he casts (T)Flash vs (T)Fantasy all by himself

RIP KT.Violet
Rah
Profile Joined February 2010
United States973 Posts
August 27 2012 10:38 GMT
#180
Moletrap isn't my favorite caster but it beats listening to commentating that you can't understand (most of the time). Seems kind of silly to boycott the English stream for petty reasons at a time when they're gauging interest in it for future investment. Criticizing is one thing, but boycotting is extreme.
Streaming on twitch. http://www.twitch.tv/rahsun86
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