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Honestly didn't realize this was coming until earlier today. Dunno why, seems like there's no hype around this MLG.
The no Kespa players thing probably hurts them.
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I can understand why the lack of hype around this mlg. =/
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In the open bracket I'm ROOTing for my ROOT boyz! Catz, ViBe, drewbie, TT1, pook!
Also best of luck to EGLZGamer!
From the groups S-s-s-stephano!
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I understand why everyone is whining about the lineup, but i do not think it's MLGs fault. I think the qualified players from Summer Arena all are pretty good, and the reason for the 8 invites is because the KESPA players are hopeless at schedueling. They declined their invites so late that it was too late too invite the rest of the summer arena playres like sortof, Snute cytoplasm and so on, so they had to invite people that were attending anywayt/ living in the US. don't blame MLG, blame KESPA
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Why the hell are you people complaining about the players who you have never heard of...
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Have they announced which casters are going to be there? I can't find it anywhere ;/
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On August 24 2012 22:48 Aakoz wrote:
Have they announced which casters are going to be there? I can't find it anywhere ;/
Yes, they announced the casters here.
Games will be cast by Day[9], Apollo, djWheat, TotalBiscuit, Mr Bitter, Rotterdam, Rob Simpson, Tim Frazier (Robin), Axeltoss, Kibbelz, and Adebisi (observer).
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On August 23 2012 02:31 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 01:49 OrbitalPlane wrote:On August 23 2012 01:36 Xeris wrote:On August 23 2012 01:24 OrbitalPlane wrote:On August 23 2012 01:11 Ursadon-n-Pals wrote:On August 23 2012 00:58 OrbitalPlane wrote:On August 23 2012 00:49 a9arnn wrote:
Edit: Cool Binski AND Caliber!!! LighT fighting!!! sad days for MLG. Sad day for the community that so few ppl even notice that. Never thought that seeding would get out of control like that. I always was against seeding ppl who didn't qualifier for it and don't have any other proof to legitimate seeding them over other open bracket players. What's next? Do we have a raffle at next MLG to get some fans seeded in the groups? To be clear: i don't have anything against those invited players like Binski and Caliber, and its definitely not their fault that they are invited! I also like that the local players gets supported but this is NOT the right way. You need to calm down. Maybe do a little research before posting? binski and Caliber were seeded as they are from their results in the Summer Arena American Invite-Only Qualifier. Caliber was a single game away from qualifying for Summer Arena (losing to Sheth 1-2 in the final round) and binski was 1 round away. giX was in the same position as Caliber. And just FYI, they all made it farther than HuK. Can you link me any source for your claims? I read the official announcements. I can't remember reading anything about that. I trust in liquipedia until you give me your sources: Seeds: Top 16 players of 2012 MLG Summer Arena are seeded into Group Play. A further 8 invited players are seeded into Group Play. If it is true what you are saying it is even more confusing. Why would you seed players who actually not even qualified for the arena. This wouldn't even make sense or be fair in any way. You could take the top 24 players from the arena or smth like that. MLG Arena players 17-32 are not given free trips to MLG -- so very few/none of them accepted their invites. Then MLG goes down the list of the next highest people (I.e. binski / caliber who were both 1 round away from Arena) and they got invited. Since they were going to be at MLG anyway, they got the seeds. This is a explanation that makes sense to some extent but you don't link a source either. Is this your assumption or did you hear that from MLG? In the sources i trust they still state that there are 8 invited players. They are also a lot of other scenarios that seem possible to me. I guess the Kespa players would not have payed for their flight tickets on their own. As a result you can also argue that MLG could have flown in some good foreigners. But this is not the point i was making. I am just saying that this seems to be the worst sulotion and i listed some ideas in further posts that are better imho.
I don't get what's so hard to understand, there's no reason for you to be a massive dick.
Like i posted before its nothing personal against players from LighT. Did I get personal or insult you? Or is it normal for you to call random ppl out to be a massive dick? MLG pays for the flights for the top 16 of Arena. 17-32 earn high seeds in open bracket but don't have their flights paid for - this is common knowledge. There were to be 8 invited players (people assume they were to be KeSPA pros), it doesn't really matter who they were, but for whatever reason the players they wanted to invite didn't come. So the next step is to invite people from qualifiers, using an objective method. Look at Liquipedia to see the rankings from the Arena qualifiers, then say it doesn't make sense. Think about it logically... they need to fill the groups, they have to use some kind of objective method to do it. What are the chances a European will fly to MLG on <1 week notice? Probably 0. What are the chances that an NA player will come to MLG, probably 100% since they're coming anyway. You're not even thinking about this - and insulting the people that are in pool play just because you don't know them and it seems "random" to you even though it's not random at all. That's why I call you a dick.
Then by that reasoning... shouldn't MKP be seeded?
He actually qualified for the Arena (unlike some of the seeded players) but was unable to participate due to scheduling and is still participating in the main event according to the OP. Wouldn't it make sense to seed him?
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On August 25 2012 00:57 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 02:31 Xeris wrote:On August 23 2012 01:49 OrbitalPlane wrote:On August 23 2012 01:36 Xeris wrote:On August 23 2012 01:24 OrbitalPlane wrote:On August 23 2012 01:11 Ursadon-n-Pals wrote:On August 23 2012 00:58 OrbitalPlane wrote:On August 23 2012 00:49 a9arnn wrote:
Edit: Cool Binski AND Caliber!!! LighT fighting!!! sad days for MLG. Sad day for the community that so few ppl even notice that. Never thought that seeding would get out of control like that. I always was against seeding ppl who didn't qualifier for it and don't have any other proof to legitimate seeding them over other open bracket players. What's next? Do we have a raffle at next MLG to get some fans seeded in the groups? To be clear: i don't have anything against those invited players like Binski and Caliber, and its definitely not their fault that they are invited! I also like that the local players gets supported but this is NOT the right way. You need to calm down. Maybe do a little research before posting? binski and Caliber were seeded as they are from their results in the Summer Arena American Invite-Only Qualifier. Caliber was a single game away from qualifying for Summer Arena (losing to Sheth 1-2 in the final round) and binski was 1 round away. giX was in the same position as Caliber. And just FYI, they all made it farther than HuK. Can you link me any source for your claims? I read the official announcements. I can't remember reading anything about that. I trust in liquipedia until you give me your sources: Seeds: Top 16 players of 2012 MLG Summer Arena are seeded into Group Play. A further 8 invited players are seeded into Group Play. If it is true what you are saying it is even more confusing. Why would you seed players who actually not even qualified for the arena. This wouldn't even make sense or be fair in any way. You could take the top 24 players from the arena or smth like that. MLG Arena players 17-32 are not given free trips to MLG -- so very few/none of them accepted their invites. Then MLG goes down the list of the next highest people (I.e. binski / caliber who were both 1 round away from Arena) and they got invited. Since they were going to be at MLG anyway, they got the seeds. This is a explanation that makes sense to some extent but you don't link a source either. Is this your assumption or did you hear that from MLG? In the sources i trust they still state that there are 8 invited players. They are also a lot of other scenarios that seem possible to me. I guess the Kespa players would not have payed for their flight tickets on their own. As a result you can also argue that MLG could have flown in some good foreigners. But this is not the point i was making. I am just saying that this seems to be the worst sulotion and i listed some ideas in further posts that are better imho.
I don't get what's so hard to understand, there's no reason for you to be a massive dick.
Like i posted before its nothing personal against players from LighT. Did I get personal or insult you? Or is it normal for you to call random ppl out to be a massive dick? MLG pays for the flights for the top 16 of Arena. 17-32 earn high seeds in open bracket but don't have their flights paid for - this is common knowledge. There were to be 8 invited players (people assume they were to be KeSPA pros), it doesn't really matter who they were, but for whatever reason the players they wanted to invite didn't come. So the next step is to invite people from qualifiers, using an objective method. Look at Liquipedia to see the rankings from the Arena qualifiers, then say it doesn't make sense. Think about it logically... they need to fill the groups, they have to use some kind of objective method to do it. What are the chances a European will fly to MLG on <1 week notice? Probably 0. What are the chances that an NA player will come to MLG, probably 100% since they're coming anyway. You're not even thinking about this - and insulting the people that are in pool play just because you don't know them and it seems "random" to you even though it's not random at all. That's why I call you a dick. Then by that reasoning... shouldn't MKP be seeded? He actually qualified for the Arena (unlike some of the seeded players) but was unable to participate due to scheduling and is still participating in the main event according to the OP. Wouldn't it make sense to seed him?
His qualification for Arena was based on Spring performance. Summer Championship seeds are based on Summer performance. If MLG's rules allowed for the previous season's top 8 to skip all qualification and take Rank 17 in the Championship Open Bracket (behind the bottom 16 from the Arena), then MKP would be in Groups now, but that's not how they're written.
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On August 23 2012 17:50 Nomzter wrote:
With Stephano, Taeja and HerO playing , I've only got a few words to say FUCK GW2 PRE ACCESS
Buy a 2nd monitor 
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On August 25 2012 01:15 jobber123rd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 00:57 Dosey wrote:On August 23 2012 02:31 Xeris wrote:On August 23 2012 01:49 OrbitalPlane wrote:On August 23 2012 01:36 Xeris wrote:On August 23 2012 01:24 OrbitalPlane wrote:On August 23 2012 01:11 Ursadon-n-Pals wrote:On August 23 2012 00:58 OrbitalPlane wrote:On August 23 2012 00:49 a9arnn wrote:
Edit: Cool Binski AND Caliber!!! LighT fighting!!! sad days for MLG. Sad day for the community that so few ppl even notice that. Never thought that seeding would get out of control like that. I always was against seeding ppl who didn't qualifier for it and don't have any other proof to legitimate seeding them over other open bracket players. What's next? Do we have a raffle at next MLG to get some fans seeded in the groups? To be clear: i don't have anything against those invited players like Binski and Caliber, and its definitely not their fault that they are invited! I also like that the local players gets supported but this is NOT the right way. You need to calm down. Maybe do a little research before posting? binski and Caliber were seeded as they are from their results in the Summer Arena American Invite-Only Qualifier. Caliber was a single game away from qualifying for Summer Arena (losing to Sheth 1-2 in the final round) and binski was 1 round away. giX was in the same position as Caliber. And just FYI, they all made it farther than HuK. Can you link me any source for your claims? I read the official announcements. I can't remember reading anything about that. I trust in liquipedia until you give me your sources: Seeds: Top 16 players of 2012 MLG Summer Arena are seeded into Group Play. A further 8 invited players are seeded into Group Play. If it is true what you are saying it is even more confusing. Why would you seed players who actually not even qualified for the arena. This wouldn't even make sense or be fair in any way. You could take the top 24 players from the arena or smth like that. MLG Arena players 17-32 are not given free trips to MLG -- so very few/none of them accepted their invites. Then MLG goes down the list of the next highest people (I.e. binski / caliber who were both 1 round away from Arena) and they got invited. Since they were going to be at MLG anyway, they got the seeds. This is a explanation that makes sense to some extent but you don't link a source either. Is this your assumption or did you hear that from MLG? In the sources i trust they still state that there are 8 invited players. They are also a lot of other scenarios that seem possible to me. I guess the Kespa players would not have payed for their flight tickets on their own. As a result you can also argue that MLG could have flown in some good foreigners. But this is not the point i was making. I am just saying that this seems to be the worst sulotion and i listed some ideas in further posts that are better imho.
I don't get what's so hard to understand, there's no reason for you to be a massive dick.
Like i posted before its nothing personal against players from LighT. Did I get personal or insult you? Or is it normal for you to call random ppl out to be a massive dick? MLG pays for the flights for the top 16 of Arena. 17-32 earn high seeds in open bracket but don't have their flights paid for - this is common knowledge. There were to be 8 invited players (people assume they were to be KeSPA pros), it doesn't really matter who they were, but for whatever reason the players they wanted to invite didn't come. So the next step is to invite people from qualifiers, using an objective method. Look at Liquipedia to see the rankings from the Arena qualifiers, then say it doesn't make sense. Think about it logically... they need to fill the groups, they have to use some kind of objective method to do it. What are the chances a European will fly to MLG on <1 week notice? Probably 0. What are the chances that an NA player will come to MLG, probably 100% since they're coming anyway. You're not even thinking about this - and insulting the people that are in pool play just because you don't know them and it seems "random" to you even though it's not random at all. That's why I call you a dick. Then by that reasoning... shouldn't MKP be seeded? He actually qualified for the Arena (unlike some of the seeded players) but was unable to participate due to scheduling and is still participating in the main event according to the OP. Wouldn't it make sense to seed him? His qualification for Arena was based on Spring performance. Summer Championship seeds are based on Summer performance. If MLG's rules allowed for the previous season's top 8 to skip all qualification and take Rank 17 in the Championship Open Bracket (behind the bottom 16 from the Arena), then MKP would be in Groups now, but that's not how they're written.
The guys seeded that didn't qualify played the same number of matches in the arena as MKP with the exception that MKP qualified automatically for the arena. If he didn't already have the seed into arena, odds are he would have participated in the qualifiers. So to exclude him because you automatically seeded him into the arena is rather silly.
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Who is going to be casting this MLG Event? Does anyone know?
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On August 25 2012 02:14 Shako wrote:
Who is going to be casting this MLG Event? Does anyone know?
look 6 posts above yours
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On August 25 2012 02:18 ThatGuy89 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 02:14 Shako wrote:
Who is going to be casting this MLG Event? Does anyone know? look 6 posts above yours
Thank you, Sir.
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It is so annoying to watch MLG from Europe cause of the time difference...
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The most important thing: Adebisi observing.
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On August 24 2012 11:20 ThaZenith wrote:
Honestly didn't realize this was coming until earlier today. Dunno why, seems like there's no hype around this MLG.
The no Kespa players thing probably hurts them.
The tournament scene is getting over-saturated...
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We blame Kespa for not coming, but why are so many of the fun to watch Korean GSL zergs missing :/
Nestea, DongRaeGue, July, Symbol
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