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[Interview] OSL KeSPA Preliminaries - Page 4

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Berceno
Profile Joined May 2012
Spain401 Posts
July 20 2012 05:54 GMT
#61
On July 20 2012 10:15 MCXD wrote:
Soulkey vs. MVP, make it happen.

yes in a zvz please
protoss living in da ghetto
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
July 20 2012 07:18 GMT
#62
Soukey playing some mind games, being sure to heap all the pressure on the GSL players lol xD
pzu
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden287 Posts
July 20 2012 07:19 GMT
#63
Thank you soo much!
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 20 2012 07:29 GMT
#64
On July 20 2012 16:18 Asha` wrote:
Soukey playing some mind games, being sure to heap all the pressure on the GSL players lol xD


Well, I think the pressure will be on GSL players for the first few months simply because they have a big head start. But after 4-5 months (and especially after HoTS), people will have expected them to have caught up. Then the pressure will be on the A-teamers. Not just vs GSL but also against current B-teamers.
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
July 20 2012 07:58 GMT
#65
On July 20 2012 11:10 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 11:04 jobber123rd wrote:
On July 20 2012 10:39 SeeKeR wrote:
On July 20 2012 10:21 ShiroKaisen wrote:
What do they mean by "academy players?" It sounds like that'd mean like...online practice partners, but some of these guys are obviously A teamers.

Haha, I'll be honest with you. I kind of took a guess with that word. I didn't know what it meant in English so I used google translate. The word is 협회, and I had no idea what it meant


When tossed into Google Translate on its own, that word came back as "Association". From the context of some of the interviews, especially Flying's "Thankfully the Dual Tournament only has [academy/association] players", it seems that they may be referring to KeSPA players as a whole.

U can't necessarily trust the first thing that comes back with Google Translate. Academy is on there if you look closer.

IDK, I'll prolly find out eventually what that word means

it means association/Kespa.
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37057 Posts
July 20 2012 13:30 GMT
#66
On July 20 2012 16:58 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 11:10 SeeKeR wrote:
On July 20 2012 11:04 jobber123rd wrote:
On July 20 2012 10:39 SeeKeR wrote:
On July 20 2012 10:21 ShiroKaisen wrote:
What do they mean by "academy players?" It sounds like that'd mean like...online practice partners, but some of these guys are obviously A teamers.

Haha, I'll be honest with you. I kind of took a guess with that word. I didn't know what it meant in English so I used google translate. The word is 협회, and I had no idea what it meant


When tossed into Google Translate on its own, that word came back as "Association". From the context of some of the interviews, especially Flying's "Thankfully the Dual Tournament only has [academy/association] players", it seems that they may be referring to KeSPA players as a whole.

U can't necessarily trust the first thing that comes back with Google Translate. Academy is on there if you look closer.

IDK, I'll prolly find out eventually what that word means

it means association/Kespa.

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jobber123rd
Profile Joined December 2011
United States501 Posts
July 20 2012 14:52 GMT
#67
On July 20 2012 14:17 SeeKeR wrote:
Btw, all academy words have been replaced with KeSPA

I knew I had it wrong T-T


All's well that ends well. You're still awesome. Thanks for all your work! ^_^
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chichom27
Profile Joined November 2009
Ecuador56 Posts
July 20 2012 17:01 GMT
#68
So whats the next step? Brackets? More group play?
Love always wins.
jobber123rd
Profile Joined December 2011
United States501 Posts
July 20 2012 17:30 GMT
#69
On July 21 2012 02:01 chichom27 wrote:
So whats the next step? Brackets? More group play?


The ten qualifiers from this join Flash and ZerO in the KeSPA Dual Tournament.
There will be three groups of four players each. The top two from each group (six players total) advance to the Round of 16, alongside FanTaSy, JangBi, DRG, Oz, MVP, San, and the 4 survivors of the two non-KeSPA Dual Tournament groups coming up on Monday.

It is in the Ro16 that the KeSPA and non-KeSPA sides will meet.
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
July 20 2012 17:49 GMT
#70
Never really heard of these guys, but they sure sound confident. Let's hope it's not just boasting! Looking forward to the Ro16
Get off my lawn, young punks
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
July 20 2012 17:53 GMT
#71
thanks for the interview, really had a good time reading them.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
July 20 2012 17:59 GMT
#72
It took TSL.Hyun around 6 months to be Code A level, starting from scratch as I recall. (and he's still improving I think) Compared to Hyun, the KeSPA players have the disadvantage of being in a team of non-SC2 players, which might hinder SC2 improvement, as well as having to devote practice time to Brood War. Assuming there there are at least a few players from KeSPA with more talent for SC2 than Hyun (a very conservative estimate), my guess would be that it'd still be over 6 months for them to catch up to Code A level, maybe 9-12 months to be on even footing. However, the 2013 season will be Heart of the Swarm, which should be a soft-reset and help the KeSPA players a lot. So I think we can be pretty confident that no BW player will win or do well in a GSL or OSL for at least 2012, but if they are really as talented as is said, then they should be in a good position to start dominating from 2013 and on, give or take another 3-6 months for the expansion to get figured out a bit.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
speknek
Profile Joined February 2012
758 Posts
July 20 2012 18:04 GMT
#73
I doubt that when 2 players say it they actually mean "mind control". Could be some kind of joke if it was only one, but from the context they probably just mean a mental boost.
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
July 20 2012 18:08 GMT
#74
On July 21 2012 03:04 speknek wrote:
I doubt that when 2 players say it they actually mean "mind control". Could be some kind of joke if it was only one, but from the context they probably just mean a mental boost.


"mind control" is yes, referring to trying to not freak out and keep calm. managing your mental state etc.
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Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
July 20 2012 18:41 GMT
#75
Thank you SeeKeR!!

In case anyone is interested, I did some video interviews with a few of these guys, too, though I asked a lot of the same questions and the audio wasn't the best, heh.

+ Show Spoiler [Interview: BeSt] +




+ Show Spoiler [Interview: Rain / by.Sun] +




+ Show Spoiler [Interview: by.Baby] +




+ Show Spoiler [Interview: Soulkey] +




Bonus video: Jaedong's hands! (the coaches wouldn't let me take any footage of the screen). Damn that guy is fast...

+ Show Spoiler [OMG APM] +


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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37057 Posts
July 20 2012 19:35 GMT
#76
On July 21 2012 03:41 Moletrap wrote:
Thank you SeeKeR!!

In case anyone is interested, I did some video interviews with a few of these guys, too, though I asked a lot of the same questions and the audio wasn't the best, heh.

+ Show Spoiler [Interview: BeSt] +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUnuKZIpEWU


+ Show Spoiler [Interview: Rain / by.Sun] +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDQUijw8f9g


+ Show Spoiler [Interview: by.Baby] +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I12p5KCQAZI


+ Show Spoiler [Interview: Soulkey] +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFMy9Pggo-A


Bonus video: Jaedong's hands! (the coaches wouldn't let me take any footage of the screen). Damn that guy is fast...

+ Show Spoiler [OMG APM] +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glSiSoAounY

You are so awesome Moletrap Oo;;

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Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
July 20 2012 19:46 GMT
#77
On July 21 2012 02:59 Grumbels wrote:
It took TSL.Hyun around 6 months to be Code A level, starting from scratch as I recall. (and he's still improving I think) Compared to Hyun, the KeSPA players have the disadvantage of being in a team of non-SC2 players, which might hinder SC2 improvement, as well as having to devote practice time to Brood War. Assuming there there are at least a few players from KeSPA with more talent for SC2 than Hyun (a very conservative estimate), my guess would be that it'd still be over 6 months for them to catch up to Code A level, maybe 9-12 months to be on even footing. However, the 2013 season will be Heart of the Swarm, which should be a soft-reset and help the KeSPA players a lot. So I think we can be pretty confident that no BW player will win or do well in a GSL or OSL for at least 2012, but if they are really as talented as is said, then they should be in a good position to start dominating from 2013 and on, give or take another 3-6 months for the expansion to get figured out a bit.

Hyun actually made it to code A on his very first try, he just lost once he got there. But yeah, about 6 months until his play is starting to look like he knows what the hell he is actually doing.
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
July 20 2012 20:07 GMT
#78
On July 20 2012 09:52 Megaliskuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 09:19 KawaiiRice wrote:
the kespa koreans are really really really good at sc2 right now... ;;


They talk like they don't play with GSL gamers, but if they really are getting high up on ladder, doesn't that mean they are constantly playing with them? You play on KR server do you know it they are HIgh masters GM like everyone says?

Many are mid-high masters and some probably gm. I played a Zerg last week with the most mindblowing tactics and below 20% redundancy ... Used changeling wall on me... Was probably a kespa Zerg lol
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DeLoAdEr
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Japan527 Posts
July 20 2012 20:11 GMT
#79
the "9" key on jaedongs keyboard is orange. o_O
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37057 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 20:16:22
July 20 2012 20:16 GMT
#80
On July 21 2012 05:11 DeLoAdEr wrote:
the "9" key on jaedongs keyboard is orange. o_O

Oh, the Jaedong video.

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