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Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
June 18 2012 23:40 GMT
#1
Well, this news is a bit old (15.06.2012), but somehow there were no threads on TL and r/starcraft, so I just post this here.

The german multigaming clan mTw reduces their StarCraft II roster to one player. (P)RineTS, (T)SonG, (P)Underdark and (P)TT1 are leaving mTw, making the ukrainian zerg (Z)DIMAGA the last player in their roster.

The reason for that is that most of the important "teamladders" are located in South Korea. Because a South Korean team branch does not make any sense for mTw, they released their players to allow them to join a team which focusses more on their SC2 roster than mTw.

Statement by team manager Christopher Pawlowski:

"We tried hard to re-establish a complete team like we had back in the days in WarCraft 3 to let the team play in teamladders. But these ladders are pretty much chaotic and have weird qualification procedures. In the end we came to the decision to focus on the presentation and success of the entirely mTw. The attraction of korean teamladders does not fulfil our claim. We do not see a reason to keep focus on a entire StarCraft 2 - team. We wish all our players good luck and all of success in the future. It was a good time! From now on we focus on our player Dmitriy 'Dimaga' Filipchuk".


Statement by TT1 (this news was posted on the mTw page one day before TT1 joined ROOT):


"I want to thank mTw for all the support that theve shown me. I'm very sad that we had to part ways this early but this is a step that both myself and mTw knew had to be taken in order for both partys to flourish. I leave the team on good terms and wish nothing but success for mTw and my dear friend Dimaga. See u guys at future lan events <3."


Source: http://www.mymtw.com/en/article/22994/ref-topnews/starcraft_tt1-rine-song-und-underdark-to-leave-mtw_starcraft-2-team-reduced.html
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
June 18 2012 23:43 GMT
#2
Figured more would be leaving after TT1 left for ROOT. It's a shame both SonG and Underdark are good players, haven't seen Rine play personally but I'm sure he's of equal skill as well. As long as DIMAGA still gets to go to events he'll be happy.
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intense555
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States474 Posts
June 18 2012 23:44 GMT
#3
Wow.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 18 2012 23:45 GMT
#4
Well, at least they got Dimaga still, who is now a Dreamhack finalist.
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
June 18 2012 23:46 GMT
#5
I'm not even that much of SC2 fan and I am saddened by the fact that a gaming team is on the verge of being disbanded.

Hopefully mTw will pick up more guys.
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Ryusei-R1
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States2106 Posts
June 18 2012 23:47 GMT
#6
Dimaga as the only mTw SC2 player? That's pretty crazy...
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
June 18 2012 23:47 GMT
#7
Awww, hope mTw will find more players to fill their roster up. I don't want a great team to go the way of MYM.
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Zalitara
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway361 Posts
June 18 2012 23:48 GMT
#8
So mTw got first place at the Dota 2 tournament and second in the SCII tourney? That's pretty impressive considering the competition.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 18 2012 23:48 GMT
#9
Beyond unsurprising when even DIMAGA isn't making any appearances in US sadly and doing tremdendously in EU.
I feel if that isn't enough of an incentive for MTW to do more, then I guess they're just not focusing on SC2 (given their successes elsewhere, it's al'right I guess).
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nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
June 18 2012 23:50 GMT
#10
"The reason for that is that most of the important "teamladders" are located in South Korea."

I don't get this; what does "teamladders" mean? :o
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Hulavuta
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1252 Posts
June 18 2012 23:50 GMT
#11
Somehow I saw this coming. Aside from TT1, we haven't really heard anything coming from any of the other mTw players.
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LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
June 18 2012 23:52 GMT
#12
mTw doesn't really need more players than Dimaga since the major team competitions (in their view) are in South Korea. Since mTw isn't, and doesn't seem to have plans to send anyone over, there's not much point in them actually having a large roster.
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KingFool
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada428 Posts
June 18 2012 23:53 GMT
#13
So i guess what the organization is thinking, is they need to assist a team of dota players to fly to events, but not a team of starcraft players. If dimaga is realistically the only one who has a shot then it may be best to toss all of your eggs into one basket. It's a shame they have no intentions of growing talent, but as long as it doesn't become a trend then so be it.
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Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
June 18 2012 23:56 GMT
#14
On June 19 2012 08:50 nkr wrote:
"The reason for that is that most of the important "teamladders" are located in South Korea."

I don't get this; what does "teamladders" mean? :o


I don't know either, I just quoted it from their website. Maybe there was something like that in WC3?
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
June 18 2012 23:56 GMT
#15
They honestly don't need anyone else, except DIMAGA. I've never even heard of those other 3 guys, and TT1 left on his own volition.

I'd rather mtw save all their money on the dota team + dimaga than spread thin on some players that will never win anything.
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
June 18 2012 23:56 GMT
#16
On June 19 2012 08:50 nkr wrote:
"The reason for that is that most of the important "teamladders" are located in South Korea."

I don't get this; what does "teamladders" mean? :o

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mazqo
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland368 Posts
June 18 2012 23:57 GMT
#17
On June 19 2012 08:50 nkr wrote:
"The reason for that is that most of the important "teamladders" are located in South Korea."

I don't get this; what does "teamladders" mean? :o

propably team leagues
Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
June 19 2012 00:00 GMT
#18
Well their players didn't have a lot of potential to be honest. RINE barely plays and he is so rusty that you could take one out of 100 random guys on ladder and there would be no difference. Underdark is pretty good but he just didn't seem to improve at all during 2011 and 2012 and from what I've seen he's not as active anymore aswell, he was a stable midtier GM player but nothing really special. I don't know much about SonG but he also didn't seem to be that great.

GL to mTw and hope they will support Dimaga well, he deserves it.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
June 19 2012 00:01 GMT
#19
On June 19 2012 08:56 Sadistx wrote:
They honestly don't need anyone else, except DIMAGA. I've never even heard of those other 3 guys, and TT1 left on his own volition.

I'd rather mtw save all their money on the dota team + dimaga than spread thin on some players that will never win anything.

Agreed.

It works for SK with MC too.
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
June 19 2012 00:02 GMT
#20
Is there any reason that Dimaga is continuing to stay or being kept by mTw?
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
June 19 2012 00:03 GMT
#21
odd reason to disband... there are plenty of foreign team leagues, NASTL, EG MCSL, IPLTL, and rumor has it that MLG will be running one.
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catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3830 Posts
June 19 2012 00:04 GMT
#22
Whoa.

Underdark's okay, but I don't know the other two besides TT1.
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 00:05:31
June 19 2012 00:05 GMT
#23
actually they removed the others from the roster a while back(1 month-ish ago) and gave me an ultimatum on a few things, thats one of the reasons why i left
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Yourmomsbasement
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada87 Posts
June 19 2012 00:07 GMT
#24
On June 19 2012 09:02 JerKy wrote:
Is there any reason that Dimaga is continuing to stay or being kept by mTw?


I'd bet he's staying on because of the support they give him. If they are going to pay him and send him to events, why leave? Now that he's the only SC2 player active, more spotlight.
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
June 19 2012 00:08 GMT
#25
Is DIMAGA going to practice with anyone aside from farming ladder?
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sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
June 19 2012 00:10 GMT
#26
they still essentially have their whole team xD
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 00:13:53
June 19 2012 00:13 GMT
#27
On June 19 2012 09:05 ROOTT1 wrote:
actually they removed the others from the roster a while back(1 month-ish ago) and gave me an ultimatum on a few things, thats one of the reasons why i left


Any chance we will be able to see you return to your former glory and form? You used to be at the top of the top 200 NA way back, and doing really well at MLG.
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Poehalcho
Profile Joined October 2011
149 Posts
June 19 2012 00:16 GMT
#28
Dimaga should leave for his own sake. He won't be able to improve without the help of team mates.
He should join up with White-Ra. TT.Dimaga. I think they could form a very destructive team...
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45017 Posts
June 19 2012 00:18 GMT
#29
Don't know who RineTS, SonG, or Underdark are... do they have any accomplishments?

And with TT1 on Root, I'm not really surprised. Dimaga's a beast though
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 19 2012 00:19 GMT
#30
Wow that sucks. Hope DIMAGA can get some teammates
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
June 19 2012 00:19 GMT
#31
On June 19 2012 09:16 Poehalcho wrote:
Dimaga should leave for his own sake. He won't be able to improve without the help of team mates.
He should join up with White-Ra. TT.Dimaga. I think they could form a very destructive team...

Grubby has been improving without teammates. MC has improved without teammates.

Just because you aren't teammates doesn't mean you don't have other practice partners.
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
June 19 2012 00:21 GMT
#32
On June 19 2012 09:13 Enzymatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 09:05 ROOTT1 wrote:
actually they removed the others from the roster a while back(1 month-ish ago) and gave me an ultimatum on a few things, thats one of the reasons why i left


Any chance we will be able to see you return to your former glory and form? You used to be at the top of the top 200 NA way back, and doing really well at MLG.


sry theres no chance
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brinker
Profile Joined December 2011
45 Posts
June 19 2012 00:24 GMT
#33
On June 19 2012 09:21 ROOTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 09:13 Enzymatic wrote:
On June 19 2012 09:05 ROOTT1 wrote:
actually they removed the others from the roster a while back(1 month-ish ago) and gave me an ultimatum on a few things, thats one of the reasons why i left


Any chance we will be able to see you return to your former glory and form? You used to be at the top of the top 200 NA way back, and doing really well at MLG.


sry theres no chance


In other words, yes.
nadafanboy42
Profile Joined August 2009
Netherlands209 Posts
June 19 2012 00:27 GMT
#34
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm guessing these 'teamladders' were a WC3 thing, something like online clan wars? Honestly it reads to me like a team completely uninterested in SC2 if they can't be bothered to realise 'teamladders' if they even exist are completely irrelevant in the SC2 scene. In which case it probably makes the most sense for them to just pay for the actual superstar player who can still give them exposure, rather than go through the hassle of maintaining a whole team.
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
June 19 2012 00:27 GMT
#35
only if the esport gods are in my favour..
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Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
June 19 2012 00:29 GMT
#36
On June 19 2012 09:19 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 09:16 Poehalcho wrote:
Dimaga should leave for his own sake. He won't be able to improve without the help of team mates.
He should join up with White-Ra. TT.Dimaga. I think they could form a very destructive team...

Grubby has been improving without teammates. MC has improved without teammates.

Just because you aren't teammates doesn't mean you don't have other practice partners.

Yeah, I feel like the foreigner scene isn't centered around practicing as a team like the Korean teams are.
Spec
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Taiwan931 Posts
June 19 2012 00:30 GMT
#37
Dima put the team on his back.
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nadafanboy42
Profile Joined August 2009
Netherlands209 Posts
June 19 2012 00:35 GMT
#38
On June 19 2012 09:29 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 09:19 jmbthirteen wrote:
On June 19 2012 09:16 Poehalcho wrote:
Dimaga should leave for his own sake. He won't be able to improve without the help of team mates.
He should join up with White-Ra. TT.Dimaga. I think they could form a very destructive team...

Grubby has been improving without teammates. MC has improved without teammates.

Just because you aren't teammates doesn't mean you don't have other practice partners.

Yeah, I feel like the foreigner scene isn't centered around practicing as a team like the Korean teams are.

I've gotten the impression that with most top players, especially amongst foreigners, it's an 'everybody knows everybody' kind of situation, so they usually have little problem finding strong players willing to practice. Teammates is only important if you're training in a heavily structured environment like Korean team houses. If you're all just sitting at home behind your PC's the difference between a teammate or a good friend becomes almost negligible.
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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
June 19 2012 00:40 GMT
#39
On June 19 2012 08:47 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Awww, hope mTw will find more players to fill their roster up. I don't want a great team to go the way of MYM.


If you read the article they don't want more players. Unless of course EU/NA ladder becomes suddenly better than KR one or suddenly mTw can afford to send an entire squad of players to KR indefinitely.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 19 2012 00:42 GMT
#40
On June 19 2012 09:05 ROOTT1 wrote:
actually they removed the others from the roster a while back(1 month-ish ago) and gave me an ultimatum on a few things, thats one of the reasons why i left


I never did like ultimatums. -_-
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 00:58:38
June 19 2012 00:58 GMT
#41
I honestly don't know who any of those players are besides dimaga and TT1, never seen any results from them, so I can't really offer a sincere and genuine "GL" to them because I don't know if they are even good or worth being picked up. I only say this because there are so many damn people trying to make it pro, I see some people I've never seen before and it's hard for me to sympathize with them.

but, GL to dimaga especially, has always been a favorite of mine.
Kentakky
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1272 Posts
June 19 2012 01:53 GMT
#42
First of all Dimaga probably has plenty of players he can practice with, he's Dimaga ffs so I wouldn't worry about that. Secondly could this possibly bring in new teams to Sc2 if they don't feel like they have to have a roster of 5-10 players? Just supporting 1 player is great in itself, costs less, full focus on promoting that one player etc then if this one man team is doing well it might look into acquiring other players. Just a thought I had when reading this

Very nice Dreamhack showing from mTw.Dota2 and mTw.Dimaga.
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mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
June 19 2012 02:51 GMT
#43
On June 19 2012 09:02 JerKy wrote:
Is there any reason that Dimaga is continuing to stay or being kept by mTw?


Well, mTw is one of the traditionally 'big' teams in Europe, so I'm pretty sure they give him adequate support and salaries.
About a few Europeans not going to MLG, it's probably because paying $1,000+ for flight and accomodation, to face a super long open bracket with a dozen Code S Koreans is just not worth the money, because for them to have a potential return, it's almost impossible.
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Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
June 19 2012 03:02 GMT
#44
Well that would be dull for a teamleague appearance.
The universe created an audience for itself.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
June 19 2012 03:17 GMT
#45
Team Dimaga, sounds good.
heyitskez
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia58 Posts
June 19 2012 03:55 GMT
#46
As far as i knew they only had dimaga anyway never heard of the other guys, except for tt1 of course but thought he joined another team ages ago lol >.<
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Kammalleri
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada613 Posts
June 19 2012 04:12 GMT
#47
On June 19 2012 09:27 ROOTT1 wrote:
only if the esport gods are in my favour..


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