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MVega
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Congrats MLG on smashing records. | ||
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BirdKiller
United States428 Posts
Also, it's unnecessary and detrimental to "twist" facts into some ridiculous trivia. It's obvious you're trying to make the actual numbers "look" bigger than it really is. Most of us can see that. Don't play dumb. "5.4 million hours of 4.7 million viewers = 616 years...of one person" Another trivia: Despite having more than 36 hours of content, the average view time per viewer was just over 1 hour "4.7 million is more than the population of select countries...that are small" "437,000 online viewers = 8.5 Yankee stadiums...totally ignoring that we're comparing online viewers vs. actual spectators" Another trivia: "20,000 spectators over 3 days = average of 13% of Yankee stadium per day for 3 days" That said, congrats on having a record session from the previous. | ||
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rename
Estonia329 Posts
241000 to 437000 is a pretty nice 81% increase. | ||
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fer
Canada375 Posts
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namste
Finland2292 Posts
Most of the viewers come from League of Legends, of course. But still it's great stuff for eSports in general. | ||
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Opera
France469 Posts
Logic would say a fifth. So if it's more, it's great | ||
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jnd
Czech Republic915 Posts
On June 15 2012 01:10 BirdKiller wrote: Probably because of LoL for the large increase. Also, it's unnecessary and detrimental to "twist" facts into some ridiculous trivia. It's obvious you're trying to make the actual numbers "look" bigger than it really is. Most of us can see that. Don't play dumb. "5.4 million hours of 4.7 million viewers = 616 years...of one person" Another trivia: Despite having more than 36 hours of content, the average view time per viewer was just over 1 hour "4.7 million is more than the population of select countries...that are small" "437,000 online viewers = 8.5 Yankee stadiums...totally ignoring that we're comparing online viewers vs. actual spectators" Another trivia: "20,000 spectators over 3 days = average of 13% of Yankee stadium per day for 3 days" That said, congrats on having a record session from the previous. Sadly, they are misleading comparisons like usually... So are these real or bloated numbers? I ask because recently I learned that US events count it differently and add up numbers for every day so they end up with huge, fake total. Are those 20k spectators unique or mostly counted 3x the same guys? Similarly, is the 4.7M total unique over all three days or just added from separate day counts? | ||
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ThaZenith
Canada3116 Posts
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Ireniicus
United Kingdom374 Posts
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Sufinsil
United States760 Posts
Their production quality has taken a huge leap from last year. (My favorite being Picture in Picture during SC2 game, being able to show 2 things happening at once) | ||
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NoGasfOu
United States1117 Posts
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On June 15 2012 01:31 jnd wrote: Sadly, they are misleading comparisons like usually... So are these real or bloated numbers? I ask because recently I learned that US events count it differently and add up numbers for every day so they end up with huge, fake total. Are those 20k spectators unique or mostly counted 3x the same guys? Similarly, is the 4.7M total unique over all three days or just added from separate day counts? It would be a bold-faced lie to say 4.7m "unique" viewers if they counted people more than once so I doubt that's the case. Please lay off the pessimism and negativity, people. I know you get something out of it but maybe consider that these threads are read by a lot of people including public figures who will gauge the community's reactions based on your responses. There is absolutely nothing bad or negative to take out of these numbers. This announcement is 100% good. Maybe positive posts are boring to you but I think you can manage . | ||
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Leetley
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On June 15 2012 01:31 jnd wrote: Sadly, they are misleading comparisons like usually... So are these real or bloated numbers? I ask because recently I learned that US events count it differently and add up numbers for every day so they end up with huge, fake total. Are those 20k spectators unique or mostly counted 3x the same guys? Similarly, is the 4.7M total unique over all three days or just added from separate day counts? They don't count people that come in, they count the amount of passes sold, obviously. | ||
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Lavit2099
United States390 Posts
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RHMVNovus
United States738 Posts
On June 15 2012 01:10 BirdKiller wrote: Probably because of LoL for the large increase. Also, it's unnecessary and detrimental to "twist" facts into some ridiculous trivia. It's obvious you're trying to make the actual numbers "look" bigger than it really is. Most of us can see that. Don't play dumb. "5.4 million hours of 4.7 million viewers = 616 years...of one person" Another trivia: Despite having more than 36 hours of content, the average view time per viewer was just over 1 hour "4.7 million is more than the population of select countries...that are small" "437,000 online viewers = 8.5 Yankee stadiums...totally ignoring that we're comparing online viewers vs. actual spectators" Another trivia: "20,000 spectators over 3 days = average of 13% of Yankee stadium per day for 3 days" That said, congrats on having a record session from the previous. How are facts being twisted? Everything that you said is something that immediately occurs to everyone reading this. You're explaining, not exposing. If the things you list are prima facie obvious (and, fret not, they are), what is deceptive about it? There's no deception, no more than TL Team News or EG Press releases. It's PR, and I'm confused as to how there's any dishonesty about it. Honestly, I'm stunned that so much residual acrimony from the Winter Arena is still present today. | ||
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Aterons_toss
Romania1275 Posts
MLG always felt overrated but you get the best casters and the best players at the best hours... and at the end of the day i can't blame MLG for poor customer service or open bracket policy when it is the only one of the 2 tournaments i still glance my eyes upon every now and then. | ||
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Kamikiri
United States1319 Posts
On June 15 2012 02:45 ThaZenith wrote: Mmmm, interesting, but without seeing the SC2 numbers they don't mean much and I don't care a lot. Its good for eSports in general, although the LoL players seem to dislike sc2 quite a bit. In the crowd some really fat guy was holding up a sign saying "Sc2 sucks". | ||
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Lobo2me
Norway1213 Posts
On June 15 2012 01:10 BirdKiller wrote:"4.7 million is more than the population of select countries...that are small" Norway is hurt :/ | ||
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1st_Panzer_Div.
United States621 Posts
On June 15 2012 01:18 rename wrote: Last event they released numbers was MLG Providence , it had 241000 peak concurrent viewers ( that one had LoL too ) 241000 to 437000 is a pretty nice 81% increase. This is what's important. They have an 81% increase in viewership over MLG Providence. They manipulate their numbers for sure, but they manipulated them at MLG Providence too, so a huge increase in viewers is amazing. | ||
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