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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
( bush
Profile Joined April 2011
321 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-03 23:44:44
February 03 2013 23:39 GMT
#4701
On February 04 2013 08:20 Grimmyman123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 06:19 nunez wrote:
i'll check over and see what i missed / didn't have time for tomorrow!

i'd also like people to chip in on what they think about bush(' replays of dakkon where he clicks a unit he does not have vision of... have anyone seen anything similar before etc etc.

it seems really weird to me at least.

also i was not sure about DeathEnd's rep. the blinking seems fairly odd there, but the previous blink hacks i have seen have been selection, blink and deselection in one frame.



Regarding DAKKON:
I ran a test in a custom game.

http://drop.sc/301978

I had my terran opponent construct a bunker in a location I had knowledge of, right beside a watch tower. I then attacked that exact location with zealots without vision of the actual bunker.

I did not get the same result as noted in the suspect replay.


Just like i said, you have no vision, you cant attack a structure you dont know. Only if you have hacks. I think this is pretty conclusive.
oo
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
February 03 2013 23:44 GMT
#4702
On February 04 2013 00:30 Sokrates wrote:
Name: Hippofarmer
Server: NA
League: Highmasters

I was always sure that this guy was obviously maphacking but i was too lazy watching the replays. Now i played vs him again and there was a thing that was really obvious so i had to review it. He is overall a really bad player, and i became suspicious the 2nd time i played vs him.
8:50: Spots a nydus he cannot see and runs to it with all of his probes.


http://drop.sc/301853

Name: Hippofarmer
Server: NA
League: Masters
Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/656733/1/HippoFarmer/

Map hack with production tab hack.

4:37 peeks at proxy hatch and addresses it
6:26 peeks at new proxy hatch and places pylon to attack from high ground with cannons
8:48 - pulls probes to kill nydus worm - BLIND
11:45 Places robo bay 10 seconds ater hydra den started construction.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
February 03 2013 23:46 GMT
#4703
On February 04 2013 07:36 iLovevikings wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 04 2013 06:15 nunez wrote:
ok, made a partial update of the OP and added

NA
HippoFarmer
sovereignone
ZergKiller
CamelHumper
Nerffy
AbbaZabba
CombatEx

EU
Thylacine
saloed
UnitedStates
Makaveli
DOOOOOPE
IIIIIIIIIIII (note: previously Dysphoria/eTNa)
Wardou
LiquidJelly

SEA
IIIIIIIIIIII

KR
KJH

Get hippofarmer off that list broseph, read past posts clearly disproven


I added my review of the subject replay. HippoFarmer is a map hacker, and is appropriately on the list of confirmed map hackers.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
iLovevikings
Profile Joined February 2013
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-03 23:56:48
February 03 2013 23:52 GMT
#4704
hippofarmer was a maphacker, not anymore
l2read bronzo
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-04 00:07:59
February 04 2013 00:04 GMT
#4705
More than likely, you and your brand new users were all created to try and deflect and avoid being added to the list and later banning. Hense, the amazing similarity in your outstanding spelling and grammar. Shall we compare?

On February 04 2013 08:52 iLovevikings wrote:
hippofarmer was a maphacker, not anymore
l2read bronzo

On February 04 2013 07:36 iLovevikings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 06:15 nunez wrote:
ok, made a partial update of the OP and added
+ Show Spoiler +

NA
HippoFarmer
sovereignone
ZergKiller
CamelHumper
Nerffy
AbbaZabba
CombatEx

EU
Thylacine
saloed
UnitedStates
Makaveli
DOOOOOPE
IIIIIIIIIIII (note: previously Dysphoria/eTNa)
Wardou
LiquidJelly

SEA
IIIIIIIIIIII

KR
KJH

Get hippofarmer off that list broseph, read past posts clearly disproven

On February 04 2013 01:12 banelingz wrote:
I am HippoFarmer and in my defence you can hear nydus and i knew he had ovie in that corner so obviously gonna go there GJ soar loser plz try harder


And nice fast edit to change your wording from Noob to bronzo. Is that even a word?
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
iLovevikings
Profile Joined February 2013
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-04 00:17:16
February 04 2013 00:16 GMT
#4706
On February 04 2013 09:04 Grimmyman123 wrote:
More than likely, you and your brand new users were all created to try and deflect and avoid being added to the list and later banning. Hense, the amazing similarity in your outstanding spelling and grammar. Shall we compare?

Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 08:52 iLovevikings wrote:
hippofarmer was a maphacker, not anymore
l2read bronzo

Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 07:36 iLovevikings wrote:
On February 04 2013 06:15 nunez wrote:
ok, made a partial update of the OP and added
+ Show Spoiler +

NA
HippoFarmer
sovereignone
ZergKiller
CamelHumper
Nerffy
AbbaZabba
CombatEx

EU
Thylacine
saloed
UnitedStates
Makaveli
DOOOOOPE
IIIIIIIIIIII (note: previously Dysphoria/eTNa)
Wardou
LiquidJelly

SEA
IIIIIIIIIIII

KR
KJH

Get hippofarmer off that list broseph, read past posts clearly disproven

Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 01:12 banelingz wrote:
I am HippoFarmer and in my defence you can hear nydus and i knew he had ovie in that corner so obviously gonna go there GJ soar loser plz try harder


And nice fast edit to change your wording from Noob to bronzo. Is that even a word?


>I change password so hacker cant access previously shared account
>kid still tries to be internet superhero over a matter with 0 consequences
>mfw: http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/125/b/e/jackie_chan_jiong_face_by_jdmcerealguytuner-d4yo2eo.jpg
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-04 00:38:30
February 04 2013 00:36 GMT
#4707
On January 26 2013 10:43 KuhFuchsKlan wrote:
Hacker Name: LEGEND / Higalori
EU Server
Master 2v2 team
i ran into 2 guys twice and im very sure they maphacked for following reasons:
First game:
- in the first game they hardcountered our strategy (we rushed) without any vision, zero scouting.
they said they would recognize me but thats impossible cause that was like my 3 rd game since a half year and i dont ran in one of them before in that games.
Second game:
- well we made a 7 min timing and lost. butthe funny thing is that they called our exact build in chat like they are making fun of us.
- i checked their game history and they always perform the falcon punch build and it was not hard to see that the toss always plays forge first and made like 2 cannons and the terran 3 bunkers then they got rushed and im sure they didnt scout like the barely saw their own ramps in these 2 games.

http://drop.sc/298674 //game1
http://drop.sc/298674 //game2

Pls report them if u think they hacked.
Have fun watching the replay


Watched both replays.

A few things stand out: Both players never scout. Both build order counter their opponents. Both players have rock bottom APM, less than 60. Both players have periods of time where their APM is 0, indicating possible camera lock map hacking.

From Legend's point of fiew in Game 298675 I noted ONLY the following:
4:01 Publicly announces both opponents builds as a 4 gate and a 3 barracks correctly, without scouting.
6:43 Looks at opponent army X-cross map at southern watchtower through fog of war.

Not much to go on. That both players are apparently Master league 1v1 players, with less than 60 APM, makes me wonder. Very suspicious. No other replays uploaded to drop.sc for these two to check or compare.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
February 04 2013 00:37 GMT
#4708
On February 04 2013 09:16 iLovevikings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 09:04 Grimmyman123 wrote:
More than likely, you and your brand new users were all created to try and deflect and avoid being added to the list and later banning. Hense, the amazing similarity in your outstanding spelling and grammar. Shall we compare?

On February 04 2013 08:52 iLovevikings wrote:
hippofarmer was a maphacker, not anymore
l2read bronzo

On February 04 2013 07:36 iLovevikings wrote:
On February 04 2013 06:15 nunez wrote:
ok, made a partial update of the OP and added
+ Show Spoiler +

NA
HippoFarmer
sovereignone
ZergKiller
CamelHumper
Nerffy
AbbaZabba
CombatEx

EU
Thylacine
saloed
UnitedStates
Makaveli
DOOOOOPE
IIIIIIIIIIII (note: previously Dysphoria/eTNa)
Wardou
LiquidJelly

SEA
IIIIIIIIIIII

KR
KJH

Get hippofarmer off that list broseph, read past posts clearly disproven

On February 04 2013 01:12 banelingz wrote:
I am HippoFarmer and in my defence you can hear nydus and i knew he had ovie in that corner so obviously gonna go there GJ soar loser plz try harder


And nice fast edit to change your wording from Noob to bronzo. Is that even a word?


>I change password so hacker cant access previously shared account
>kid still tries to be internet superhero over a matter with 0 consequences
>mfw: http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/125/b/e/jackie_chan_jiong_face_by_jdmcerealguytuner-d4yo2eo.jpg


OK! I guess we will all just take your word for it!
[[rolls eyes.jpg]]
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
February 04 2013 00:42 GMT
#4709
On February 04 2013 06:42 nunez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 06:23 WaZ wrote:
dakkon was caught hacking and banned from all Brazilian tournaments months ago and has just been hacking more and more blatantly since


can you provide a source for this? would be really nice.


I've been getting PM's too from a brand new user (SpiritSTR) asking about Dakkon.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
February 04 2013 00:43 GMT
#4710
On February 04 2013 09:16 iLovevikings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 09:04 Grimmyman123 wrote:
More than likely, you and your brand new users were all created to try and deflect and avoid being added to the list and later banning. Hense, the amazing similarity in your outstanding spelling and grammar. Shall we compare?

On February 04 2013 08:52 iLovevikings wrote:
hippofarmer was a maphacker, not anymore
l2read bronzo

On February 04 2013 07:36 iLovevikings wrote:
On February 04 2013 06:15 nunez wrote:
ok, made a partial update of the OP and added
+ Show Spoiler +

NA
HippoFarmer
sovereignone
ZergKiller
CamelHumper
Nerffy
AbbaZabba
CombatEx

EU
Thylacine
saloed
UnitedStates
Makaveli
DOOOOOPE
IIIIIIIIIIII (note: previously Dysphoria/eTNa)
Wardou
LiquidJelly

SEA
IIIIIIIIIIII

KR
KJH

Get hippofarmer off that list broseph, read past posts clearly disproven

On February 04 2013 01:12 banelingz wrote:
I am HippoFarmer and in my defence you can hear nydus and i knew he had ovie in that corner so obviously gonna go there GJ soar loser plz try harder


And nice fast edit to change your wording from Noob to bronzo. Is that even a word?


>I change password so hacker cant access previously shared account
>kid still tries to be internet superhero over a matter with 0 consequences
>mfw: http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/125/b/e/jackie_chan_jiong_face_by_jdmcerealguytuner-d4yo2eo.jpg



Yeah, very believable
Sentinel Gaming Competitive Team Manager | 1500+ points Masters Zerg | twitch.tv/zennith6
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
February 04 2013 00:50 GMT
#4711
On February 04 2013 09:16 iLovevikings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 09:04 Grimmyman123 wrote:
More than likely, you and your brand new users were all created to try and deflect and avoid being added to the list and later banning. Hense, the amazing similarity in your outstanding spelling and grammar. Shall we compare?

On February 04 2013 08:52 iLovevikings wrote:
hippofarmer was a maphacker, not anymore
l2read bronzo

On February 04 2013 07:36 iLovevikings wrote:
On February 04 2013 06:15 nunez wrote:
ok, made a partial update of the OP and added
+ Show Spoiler +

NA
HippoFarmer
sovereignone
ZergKiller
CamelHumper
Nerffy
AbbaZabba
CombatEx

EU
Thylacine
saloed
UnitedStates

Makaveli
DOOOOOPE
IIIIIIIIIIII (note: previously Dysphoria/eTNa)
Wardou
LiquidJelly

SEA
IIIIIIIIIIII

KR
KJH

Get hippofarmer off that list broseph, read past posts clearly disproven

On February 04 2013 01:12 banelingz wrote:
I am HippoFarmer and in my defence you can hear nydus and i knew he had ovie in that corner so obviously gonna go there GJ soar loser plz try harder


And nice fast edit to change your wording from Noob to bronzo. Is that even a word?


>I change password so hacker cant access previously shared account
>kid still tries to be internet superhero over a matter with 0 consequences
>mfw: http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/125/b/e/jackie_chan_jiong_face_by_jdmcerealguytuner-d4yo2eo.jpg


Seems legit. lol.
What the fuck is a bronzo anyways. Like a Bronze league player is that what you're implying? Damn clever son
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-04 00:58:28
February 04 2013 00:54 GMT
#4712
On February 04 2013 09:43 Zennith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 09:16 iLovevikings wrote:
On February 04 2013 09:04 Grimmyman123 wrote:
More than likely, you and your brand new users were all created to try and deflect and avoid being added to the list and later banning. Hense, the amazing similarity in your outstanding spelling and grammar. Shall we compare?

On February 04 2013 08:52 iLovevikings wrote:
hippofarmer was a maphacker, not anymore
l2read bronzo

On February 04 2013 07:36 iLovevikings wrote:
On February 04 2013 06:15 nunez wrote:
ok, made a partial update of the OP and added
+ Show Spoiler +

NA
HippoFarmer
sovereignone
ZergKiller
CamelHumper
Nerffy
AbbaZabba
CombatEx

EU
Thylacine
saloed
UnitedStates
Makaveli
DOOOOOPE
IIIIIIIIIIII (note: previously Dysphoria/eTNa)
Wardou
LiquidJelly

SEA
IIIIIIIIIIII

KR
KJH

Get hippofarmer off that list broseph, read past posts clearly disproven

On February 04 2013 01:12 banelingz wrote:
I am HippoFarmer and in my defence you can hear nydus and i knew he had ovie in that corner so obviously gonna go there GJ soar loser plz try harder


And nice fast edit to change your wording from Noob to bronzo. Is that even a word?


>I change password so hacker cant access previously shared account
>kid still tries to be internet superhero over a matter with 0 consequences
>mfw: http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/125/b/e/jackie_chan_jiong_face_by_jdmcerealguytuner-d4yo2eo.jpg



Yeah, very believable

On February 04 2013 02:51 HippoFighter wrote:
Hey everyone I am HippoFighter. The guy who I 2v2 with is VDvikings / Ilovevikings who is high masters and who does not hack. The guy in the replay is SugoMirko who was using one of my old accounts "Killthehero". My friend VDvikings changed the name to HippoFarmer so that we could have similar 2v2 names. The replay in question makes it pretty clear that Sugo (Hippofarmer) was using a maphack. IIIIIIIIIIIII brought this replay to my attention about thirty minutes ago. I don't really have any choice but to change the password to HippoFarmer since it is being used by someone who maphacks. From now on Hippofarmer will only be used by VDvikings / IloveVikings and not Sugo again. You can get ahold of me if you want Sugo but the nydus probe pull makes it pretty clear you were maphacking on an account I let you and torp practice on.


C'MOOOONNNNNN MAN

Wonder which of them changed the pw lol, both claim it. On another note, the mysterious NpPpSomeNoob reappears! (He's HippoFighter).

edit - lol turns out ilovevikings is a PBU, wonder who. Would be funny if it were bropedo.
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
February 04 2013 01:17 GMT
#4713
On February 04 2013 07:05 dachi wrote:
Not sure if this barcode guy has already been reported.

http://drop.sc/301957
cannon rushes without even seeing anything on entombed.


Not yet reported

Name: IlIlIlIlIlIl
Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4009806/1/IlIlIlIlIlIl/
Server: NA
League: GrandMaster
Replay: http://drop.sc/301957

Notes: Map hacking

2:08 Blind low ground pylon placement for cannon rush, and successful cannon rush. Does not scout actual location of opponent (Entombed valley).

Last season was a Diamond league player with 900 pts. This season is GM with a 81 Wins and 37 Losses for a 69.6% Win rate.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
HippoFighter
Profile Joined February 2013
7 Posts
February 04 2013 01:51 GMT
#4714
Why is it mysterious - I changed my name like a week ago or less. I do enjoy watching vikings own himself here though.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-04 01:53:53
February 04 2013 01:53 GMT
#4715
On February 04 2013 10:51 HippoFighter wrote:
Why is it mysterious - I changed my name like a week ago or less. I do enjoy watching vikings own himself here though.

Lol wut, having fun watching your friend own himself xD.

Oh, and by mysterious I just meant how back when you were spamming 1v1 ladder some seasons ago, lots of people were like who is this guy that came out of nowhere to be high gm. I think rumors at one point were that Shuttle played partially on your account and stuff like that.
HippoFighter
Profile Joined February 2013
7 Posts
February 04 2013 01:57 GMT
#4716
That wasn't a rumor that was true. - my friend is ilovevikings and he is bropedo. Not sure what a PBU is though.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-04 02:06:33
February 04 2013 02:05 GMT
#4717
On February 04 2013 10:57 HippoFighter wrote:
That wasn't a rumor that was true. - my friend is ilovevikings and he is bropedo. Not sure what a PBU is though.

edit - nvm confused

PBU = previously banned user
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-04 02:39:04
February 04 2013 02:21 GMT
#4718
On January 31 2013 18:13 Grimmyman123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 16:52 Virtuous wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 30 2013 20:51 ( bush wrote:
Hello everyone
Can you help me?
look at this game, Dakkon vs Bombs
http://drop.sc/300596
According to SC2gears

4:25 lFKlDakkoN Right click; target: Bunker (0); target: x=34.50,y=53.50

in this moment (6:06 at ingame time), Dakkon right clicks a bunker that he has never seen before
Is this perfectly normal?

[image loading]
-

Another game, Dakkon x Pasidan (danny)
http://drop.sc/273322

9:00 lFKlDakkoN Right click; target: Banshee (0); target: x=79.55,y=82.37

in this game, at 12:27 (according to sc2gears time conversor) Dakkon right clicks a banshee that is not in his vision three times in a row.

Is this right?


That's a good catch. I'm like 99.9% sure that means he is hacking. The right click through fog means he selected your building on attack move with a unit, which you could only do with with hacks.


The analysis is correct. You cannot click or attack a structure you do not have prior vision of. This single line is indicative of hacking. Unfortunately, SC2gears times (in seconds) are all wrong, but looking at the replay, the attack in question is at 5:56. Up until that point, the zerg has absolutely no vision of the terran base or tech path, whatsoever.

I also pulled up an older replay:
http://drop.sc/281665
keydAllvini vs lFKlDakkoN
Opening overlord scouts Cross map but does not actually verify terran location or look for anything. Ever.
4:12 Good long look through fog of war at terran main and expo
5:06 Sends lings to intercept scouting SCV with no prior vision of SCV
8:38 Blind spines at natural and main (drop en route) later cancels spines in main once drop dealt with at natural

http://drop.sc/274574
KSxKim vs lFKlDakkoN
14:12 Looks at Terran army and expo at 3rd through fog of war


Ok, Regarding IFKIDakkon.

I downloaded yet 2 MORE replays, and gave them the run through.

http://drop.sc/277605
Scouts with overlord cross map on Entombed (opponent was actually vertical lane)
9:18 Looks at Natural Expansion

http://drop.sc/281666
4:17 Looks at VERY well hidden probe, bottom right of map
5:37 "Scouts" hidden probe with overlord
9:27 Looks at protoss army through fog moving to 3rd
10:00 - 10:42 Positioning and posturinging to intercept protoss army, nearly snipes an immortal lagging behind
11:29 Peeks at army outside his 3rd.
14:23 Base Race - sends lings to well hidden pylon, not revealed (opponent has a nexus)
14:55 Looks at hidden probe in main
14:58 Splits off roaches from main pack to kill above noted hidden probe

http://drop.sc/273609
4:49 - looks at, and attacks hidden probe at zerg 3rd with zerglings
4:59 - Probe changes location, he blindly changes his attack command for the zerglings to the new location
6:13 - moves overlord out of natural just before stalker finishes.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
( bush
Profile Joined April 2011
321 Posts
February 04 2013 02:41 GMT
#4719
Those hacking evidences were already made by the brazillian community 2 months ago but this is no 100% proof.
But i think theres no discussion with that bunker click, it was certainly map hack, no need to look further, GG.
oo
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
February 04 2013 02:51 GMT
#4720
On February 04 2013 11:41 ( bush wrote:
Those hacking evidences were already made by the brazillian community 2 months ago but this is no 100% proof.
But i think theres no discussion with that bunker click, it was certainly map hack, no need to look further, GG.


What is your SOURCE for the bazilian community?

I don't like to rely on one peice of evidence, I prefer many instances.
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