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Rataplan
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands109 Posts
May 24 2012 15:48 GMT
#121
Great job JP!
Jaisse
Profile Joined November 2011
United States66 Posts
May 24 2012 15:50 GMT
#122
Great interview. Looking forward to more.
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
May 24 2012 15:51 GMT
#123
Almost thought this was a thread to say whatever you wanted. But a show about it is just as good, i guess.
Omri
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel638 Posts
May 24 2012 15:52 GMT
#124
Enjoyed EP 2, waiting for EP 3 great job.
Scrabo
Profile Joined May 2012
Northern Ireland11 Posts
May 24 2012 15:53 GMT
#125
In this and with hotbid, Idra seems pretty good with interviews.

Would like to see Nony and Violet in the future.

Great show JP. Keep it going!
FawxzTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden178 Posts
May 24 2012 16:11 GMT
#126
Great show! Keep making it
AKomrade
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States582 Posts
May 24 2012 16:11 GMT
#127
I LOVE IDRA.
ALL HAIL THE KING IN THE NORTH! HAIL! HAIL!
oZe
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden492 Posts
May 24 2012 16:14 GMT
#128
Have I told you lately that I love you? I am sucker for documentaries ^^ Nice with a stream that's not just another stream.
The worst kinds of organized crime are religion & government.
provrorsbarn
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden766 Posts
May 24 2012 16:18 GMT
#129
Great first show......but really how can you fail IdrA?
Hes a great interview.....says whats on his mind...
Im just a zerg
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 16:20:56
May 24 2012 16:19 GMT
#130
On May 24 2012 14:25 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 14:20 smallerk wrote:
On May 24 2012 14:16 Mr Showtime wrote:
On May 24 2012 14:12 sAfuRos wrote:
On May 24 2012 12:43 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
Can anyone elaborate on the "flak Day9 has been catching recently" (around 47:45 of the video) that IdrA's talking about?


Day[9] asking for donations and money despite making well over $100,000 a year from his streams, casting, youtube channel, etc. (20k a casting gig).


Don't just start throwing numbers out there that you can't be sure of. Day9's nebulous approach to describing his financial situation tends to rub people the wrong way. I (and nobody else) wants exact numbers from him. That would be an inappropriate request, but he should be more clear. He does make a lot of money from his content, but remember, a lot of that money will go back into stuff he produces (e.g. AHGL).


Oh yeah, that league nobody cared about, and helped the community(or the industry, as he likes to call it) in no way.
He probably got some sweet contacts off of it so again, cant really blame him.

Also, people do want exact numbers from him.


and they have no right to know what they are


they kinda do when he is asking for money to help him live off esports
LambtrOn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States671 Posts
May 24 2012 16:19 GMT
#131
This show is seriously awesome. I would love to see Grubby as a guest!
Vega62a
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
946 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 16:26:40
May 24 2012 16:21 GMT
#132
On May 25 2012 01:19 mememolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 14:25 jmbthirteen wrote:
On May 24 2012 14:20 smallerk wrote:
On May 24 2012 14:16 Mr Showtime wrote:
On May 24 2012 14:12 sAfuRos wrote:
On May 24 2012 12:43 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
Can anyone elaborate on the "flak Day9 has been catching recently" (around 47:45 of the video) that IdrA's talking about?


Day[9] asking for donations and money despite making well over $100,000 a year from his streams, casting, youtube channel, etc. (20k a casting gig).


Don't just start throwing numbers out there that you can't be sure of. Day9's nebulous approach to describing his financial situation tends to rub people the wrong way. I (and nobody else) wants exact numbers from him. That would be an inappropriate request, but he should be more clear. He does make a lot of money from his content, but remember, a lot of that money will go back into stuff he produces (e.g. AHGL).


Oh yeah, that league nobody cared about, and helped the community(or the industry, as he likes to call it) in no way.
He probably got some sweet contacts off of it so again, cant really blame him.

Also, people do want exact numbers from him.


and they have no right to know what they are


they kinda do when he is asking for money to help him live of esports


Not really. He is not demanding donations with the assertion that he will starve to death if he doesn't get them. He's not holding his content hostage. He's just asking for people to pitch in if they feel like it. Being as how he's basically been the face of the SC2 scene from beta until now, I don't think that's unreasonable. Hell, when you get down to it, it's never unreasonable to ask somebody to pitch in if they feel like it, so long as you're not holding something hostage.

A person's income is entirely his own business. Nobody but the IRS has the right to know what somebody else makes. I don't know when the internet forgot this, but it's actually considered incredibly rude to ask somebody what they make, at least in America.
Content of my posts reflects only my personal opinions, and not those of any employer or subsidiary
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
May 24 2012 16:22 GMT
#133
Thanks JP for all the work.
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
May 24 2012 16:27 GMT
#134
On May 25 2012 01:21 Vega62a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 01:19 mememolly wrote:
On May 24 2012 14:25 jmbthirteen wrote:
On May 24 2012 14:20 smallerk wrote:
On May 24 2012 14:16 Mr Showtime wrote:
On May 24 2012 14:12 sAfuRos wrote:
On May 24 2012 12:43 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
Can anyone elaborate on the "flak Day9 has been catching recently" (around 47:45 of the video) that IdrA's talking about?


Day[9] asking for donations and money despite making well over $100,000 a year from his streams, casting, youtube channel, etc. (20k a casting gig).


Don't just start throwing numbers out there that you can't be sure of. Day9's nebulous approach to describing his financial situation tends to rub people the wrong way. I (and nobody else) wants exact numbers from him. That would be an inappropriate request, but he should be more clear. He does make a lot of money from his content, but remember, a lot of that money will go back into stuff he produces (e.g. AHGL).


Oh yeah, that league nobody cared about, and helped the community(or the industry, as he likes to call it) in no way.
He probably got some sweet contacts off of it so again, cant really blame him.

Also, people do want exact numbers from him.


and they have no right to know what they are


they kinda do when he is asking for money to help him live of esports


Not really. He is not demanding donations with the assertion that he will starve to death if he doesn't get them. He's not holding his content hostage. He's just asking for people to pitch in if they feel like it.

A person's income is entirely his own business. Nobody but the IRS has the right to know what somebody else makes.


he doesn't have to demand donations, he is a very well respected member of the community, I think it is borderline exploitative and irresponsible to ask for donations without disclosing how much you're making
Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
May 24 2012 16:29 GMT
#135
On May 25 2012 01:19 mememolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 14:25 jmbthirteen wrote:
On May 24 2012 14:20 smallerk wrote:
On May 24 2012 14:16 Mr Showtime wrote:
On May 24 2012 14:12 sAfuRos wrote:
On May 24 2012 12:43 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
Can anyone elaborate on the "flak Day9 has been catching recently" (around 47:45 of the video) that IdrA's talking about?


Day[9] asking for donations and money despite making well over $100,000 a year from his streams, casting, youtube channel, etc. (20k a casting gig).


Don't just start throwing numbers out there that you can't be sure of. Day9's nebulous approach to describing his financial situation tends to rub people the wrong way. I (and nobody else) wants exact numbers from him. That would be an inappropriate request, but he should be more clear. He does make a lot of money from his content, but remember, a lot of that money will go back into stuff he produces (e.g. AHGL).


Oh yeah, that league nobody cared about, and helped the community(or the industry, as he likes to call it) in no way.
He probably got some sweet contacts off of it so again, cant really blame him.

Also, people do want exact numbers from him.


and they have no right to know what they are


they kinda do when he is asking for money to help him live off esports


You're out of your mind. He produces an insane amount of FREE content. No one cared about AHGL? You don't care about, but that doesn't mean no one did and that it didnt take a big investment. It's none of anyone's business what he makes. If people think he's rich now and want to stop donating that's up to them.
Push 2 Harder
Zax19
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Czech Republic1136 Posts
May 24 2012 16:29 GMT
#136
Thanks for the long interviews. I hope you manage to get some interesting people we know a bit less than "superstars" such as Idra .
Really Blizz, really? - Darnell
Vega62a
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
946 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 16:47:50
May 24 2012 16:38 GMT
#137
On May 25 2012 01:27 mememolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 01:21 Vega62a wrote:
On May 25 2012 01:19 mememolly wrote:
On May 24 2012 14:25 jmbthirteen wrote:
On May 24 2012 14:20 smallerk wrote:
On May 24 2012 14:16 Mr Showtime wrote:
On May 24 2012 14:12 sAfuRos wrote:
On May 24 2012 12:43 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
Can anyone elaborate on the "flak Day9 has been catching recently" (around 47:45 of the video) that IdrA's talking about?


Day[9] asking for donations and money despite making well over $100,000 a year from his streams, casting, youtube channel, etc. (20k a casting gig).


Don't just start throwing numbers out there that you can't be sure of. Day9's nebulous approach to describing his financial situation tends to rub people the wrong way. I (and nobody else) wants exact numbers from him. That would be an inappropriate request, but he should be more clear. He does make a lot of money from his content, but remember, a lot of that money will go back into stuff he produces (e.g. AHGL).


Oh yeah, that league nobody cared about, and helped the community(or the industry, as he likes to call it) in no way.
He probably got some sweet contacts off of it so again, cant really blame him.

Also, people do want exact numbers from him.


and they have no right to know what they are


they kinda do when he is asking for money to help him live of esports


Not really. He is not demanding donations with the assertion that he will starve to death if he doesn't get them. He's not holding his content hostage. He's just asking for people to pitch in if they feel like it.

A person's income is entirely his own business. Nobody but the IRS has the right to know what somebody else makes.


he doesn't have to demand donations, he is a very well respected member of the community, I think it is borderline exploitative and irresponsible to ask for donations without disclosing how much you're making


Why on earth would disclosing your income be a requirement for asking for donations? That seems...absurdly arbitrary.

You can easily choose not to donate. Every single person gets to make that choice. If they decide that the reason they do or don't want to donate hinges on his income, then that's their decision. If they want to donate because they appreciate what he does for the community, regardless of how much he already makes, that's their decision too. Exploitation would be him charging for a service and then not delivering on it. (For example, a subscriber-only daily in which all he does is play text twist instead of teaching us something about starcraft.)

It seems horribly entitled to expect something from him when he's not expecting anything from you.

Actually, for that matter, why would it be so horrible of him to hold his content hostage to donations (i.e .subscriber-only daily)? He's providing a service that is highly in demand, (the daily) so why would it be evil of him to want to make money off of it if people were willing to pay for it? In any other industry on the planet people would be pulling their teeth out at the financial opportunity that Day[9] is NOT taking advantage of. The fact that he doesn't speaks volumes to his character.

But instead, he's maligned for asking us, if we feel like it, and have a little extra cash, rather then telling us, to pay for the service he provides.
Content of my posts reflects only my personal opinions, and not those of any employer or subsidiary
Jutranjo
Profile Joined October 2010
Slovenia140 Posts
May 24 2012 16:38 GMT
#138
I listened to both episode 01 and 02, this is really great content JP! Any chance you could do one of these with Grubby?
weishime
Profile Joined August 2011
65 Posts
May 24 2012 16:44 GMT
#139
A new show is always nice to listen to during work. Thanks.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 24 2012 16:46 GMT
#140
this is great, everything about idra was answered for me :B
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
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