EPTFlash SC2 Replay vs KawaiiRice? - Page 12
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Nimix
France1809 Posts
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Reval
United States297 Posts
On May 13 2012 17:11 Dosey wrote: Not really sold yet... That game highlighted KRs mistakes more than the skills of this alleged "Flash" He put himself in a poor position multiple times and had poor decision making when it mattered. He may have psyched himself out by thinking it was flash I guess... But still. Plus all that banked gas didn't make much sense to me. He (Flash) had 1000-2000 gas banked and was still building refineries on his expos. Granted... that could be attributed to BW and being used to only having one/no gas at your bases and grabbing them immediately for tanks (Unless Bisu steals it like 7 times). But it still feels like a mistake to grab gas immediately on an expo rather than saturate. Then again, I don't play Terran exclusively so perhaps someone can enlighten me? Yeah, I thought that. When he stimmed up into that choke next to the destructable rocks he just got massacred by the huge concave. | ||
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Derrida
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Jinsho
United Kingdom3101 Posts
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Deleted User 245622
184 Posts
edit: too late :D | ||
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Youtakenocandle
543 Posts
On May 13 2012 19:05 darkness wrote: That game is already casted.  Yikes, been a while since I heard husky with his annoying voice and intro. Anyone else that casted it? | ||
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
On May 13 2012 21:25 Youtakenocandle wrote: Yikes, been a while since I heard husky with his annoying voice and intro. Anyone else that casted it? NO! Deal with it. | ||
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komokun
France343 Posts
Seriously Flash making supply is pretty impressive. | ||
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one-one-one
Sweden551 Posts
On May 13 2012 16:26 xza wrote: I sincerely hope that the replays of the BW pros will not get distributed out in the future. Even maybe in MLG or dreamhack or some random online tournament. The reason is because for them to maintain that high standard, their strategies and POV's must be kept secret. It sucks to be us yes but I believe this is adds more value to tournaments because nobody can just load up their replays and study them weeks before etc. This is less relevant than in BW. It is easier to extract information from SC2 vods because of UI helpers such as the Unit and Production tabs. Also, if they wanna compete in MLG , IPL or Dreamhack their replays will be released anyways. | ||
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Gosi
Sweden9072 Posts
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Garmer
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OopsOopsBaby
Singapore3425 Posts
On May 13 2012 21:08 Reval wrote: Yeah, I thought that. When he stimmed up into that choke next to the destructable rocks he just got massacred by the huge concave. kr had combat shields and more marines. cant blame him for not trying. | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
On May 13 2012 21:10 Derrida wrote: Quick, someone calculate the number of possible permutations for creating a 7 character name from capital "i"s and small "L"s. On May 13 2012 21:17 Jinsho wrote: It's obviously 2^7. How is this basic math too hard for you? Doesn't matter anyway, since players can have identical names as long as they have different character codes. | ||
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Archybaldie
United Kingdom818 Posts
On May 13 2012 21:08 Reval wrote: Yeah, I thought that. When he stimmed up into that choke next to the destructable rocks he just got massacred by the huge concave. I did a quick simulation of the engagement that excited me using a unit test map so probabaly not the most accurate. I got the same number of units/upgrades for each person. Had an observer off to the side to "simulate" the xel'naga tower that kawaii rice had. Also had about half of flash's army outside the vision of the obs (xel'naga). Then i stimmed and 1-a'd kawaiis units up a ramp. It ended up showing flash losing that engagement with kawaii rice having 14 marines left. Quite a large margin compared to the match that shows flash winning that engagement with 9 marines and a tank. However this was just a quick simulation on a unit tester map. I personally question the validity of this simulation until i can get a friend to test that engagement on that same map (with the main difference of no micro). It seems in the replay that due to all the pull backs and push forwards not only did flash have more medivacs but with the placement of them above the army instead of behind them lead to them healing the units more then kawaii's 2 medivacs healed for. Im actually a little obsessed with that engagement (i should get out more) So my personal initial conclusion, The high ground advantage was partially nullified by the xel'naga. The Choke/concave seemed to help but not enough to win that battle. The main difference seemed to be the pull backs (from both players) combined with the placement of the medivacs. Which resulted in flash's 4 medivacs healing for longer while kawaii rice's 2 medivacs were not healing for as long. I dont know if any of this was intentional or not but it's given me some intresting thoughts about future games and micro when you have the medivac advantage. Also i need to get out more rather then obsessing about a single engagement in a single replay so much ... | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
That last move-out was okay though, not that impressive to be honest. | ||
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See.Blue
United States2673 Posts
On May 13 2012 21:25 Youtakenocandle wrote: Yikes, been a while since I heard husky with his annoying voice and intro. Anyone else that casted it? Yeah just youtube. | ||
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superstartran
United States4013 Posts
On May 14 2012 00:32 Torte de Lini wrote: It shows how much he has to improve. That last move-out was okay though, not that impressive to be honest. Yeah, 1 month of inconsistent practice (he played 5 days before) to beat a NA Grandmaster player isn't impressive at all. Oh wait. | ||
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iAmJeffReY
United States4262 Posts
On May 14 2012 01:11 superstartran wrote: Yeah, 1 month of inconsistent practice (he played 5 days before) to beat a NA Grandmaster player isn't impressive at all. Oh wait. KRice doesn't play on NA namo. He plays EU and KR. And is high masters (GM level) on EU. | ||
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Phantom_Sky
Hong Kong512 Posts
http://sc2ranks.com/team/18050746 http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/3479253/1/lllllll/ | ||
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Valikyr
Sweden2653 Posts
On May 14 2012 01:25 Phantom_Sky wrote: Flash's account? http://sc2ranks.com/team/18050746 http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/3479253/1/lllllll/ Yes but ppl should stop linking it because Flash stopped playing it the moment ppl figured out it was him. | ||
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