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Starcraft Briefly Mentioned on ESPN Radio

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Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 04:01:24
May 07 2012 23:01 GMT
#1
On my way home from work this evening I was listening to The Doug Gottlieb Show on ESPN Radio as I always do. Doug was asking listeners what they liked about the NFL (in the aftermath of the crackdown on head injuries and vicious hits regarding specifically 'Bountygate').

One listener emailed in saying he liked the strategy of the game - a quarterback slicing up a defense or a defense scheming to confused and disrupt the offense - is fascinating for him. Doug concurred and added that is why he also enjoys watching competitive Starcraft. He didn't specifically clarify BW or SC2, perhaps I am making an assumption posting it in the SC2 forum but I think it's a safe bet. Doug said it was like watching fast paced chess and he loved the strategy of the game. He ended with the words "hashtag TMI" lol.

I think it is really awesome that the host of a very prominent primetime show on ESPN radio watches Starcraft!

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I don't know what the purpose of this post is exactly (maybe should have been a blog) but I thought it would be cool to tweet or email Doug and mention Starcraft. Perhaps ask him who his favorite player is, if he'd ever consider attending an MLG or IPL, or whatever.

P.S. If possible I will try to find an audio clip of the show or a transcript of some kind since I was paraphrasing.

Thanks sihyunie!

"Interestingly enough, one of my other favorite things to watch is the competitive play of Starcraft. Starcraft is a real time computer strategy that is a mental chess battle that is far more visually interesting and fast paced than watching a chess match."

Around 7:30 min mark on his third hour. (must be ESPN Insider subscriber to listen)

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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
May 07 2012 23:19 GMT
#2
Thats pretty cool. I like Gottlieb and its pretty cool that he likes pro sc2, ok maybe its BW, but either way its cool. I'm gonna tweet at him for sure.
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Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
May 08 2012 00:50 GMT
#3
Nice catch, really interesting and happy thought that a sports broadcaster is paying attention to our little corner of the world as well.
AKomrade
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States582 Posts
May 08 2012 00:55 GMT
#4
Hahaha, #TMI. He knows its dangerous waters mentioning a video game outside of the mainstream on ESPN radio. Awesome that he watches the game though. Might be one of the heavy pushers at ESPN Studios talking to Sundance.
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holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 01:05:05
May 08 2012 00:59 GMT
#5
I love Doug Gottlieb, definitely have to check it out.

Edit: Does anyone have ESPN insider? You can access today's podcast that way.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
May 08 2012 00:59 GMT
#6
On May 08 2012 09:55 AKomrade wrote:
Might be one of the heavy pushers at ESPN Studios talking to Sundance.


Misinformation is cool.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 01:05:05
May 08 2012 01:03 GMT
#7
I'd like to think that it is only a matter of time before eSports does become mainstream in the West, considering the widespread popularity of video games and the fact that the video game industry is simply massive in the United States. That being said, many US gamers are more casual gamers, and thus I also fear simple games like Angry Birds or Fruit Ninja become the dominant "sport" (see WCG).

On May 08 2012 09:59 Doodsmack wrote:
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On May 08 2012 09:55 AKomrade wrote:
Might be one of the heavy pushers at ESPN Studios talking to Sundance.


Misinformation is cool.


It's not so much misinformation since he does add the critical qualifier "might". Just very very heavy speculation.
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sihyunie
Profile Joined June 2008
United States108 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 03:19:30
May 08 2012 01:17 GMT
#8
"Interestingly enough, one of my other favorite things to watch is the competitive play of Starcraft. Starcraft is a real time computer strategy that is a mental chess battle that is far more visually interesting and fast paced than watching a chess match."

Around 7:30 min mark on his third hour.
GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1842 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 01:22:57
May 08 2012 01:19 GMT
#9
shorts on backwards!

love gottleib's comments. actually had a decent chance at becoming a basketball coach at kansas state... so he's kinda really knowledgeable about the game. neat that he watches starcraft

looks like he also just retweeted a post about starcraft, really, really cool.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10363 Posts
May 08 2012 01:21 GMT
#10
wow nice! gogo esports :D
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ChosenBrad1322
Profile Joined April 2012
United States562 Posts
May 08 2012 01:22 GMT
#11
If that actually happened, Gotlieb just instantly became my favorite person @ ESPN.
Chytilova
Profile Joined December 2011
United States790 Posts
May 08 2012 01:32 GMT
#12
Out of everyone at ESPN to admit to watching Starcraft it had to be the one guy who is always a total dick to my hometown college because he was kicked out for stealing. I guess I will begrudging respect him now.
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
May 08 2012 01:37 GMT
#13
Nerds are nerds, just in all our different incarnations. Sports nuts fawning over box scores and lineup changes and free agency sound like... Starcraft fans doing the same (build orders, map stats, and the like). At some point there will be a union between the two - or at least an acknowledgement that most are fans of both and to be a fan of one isn't mutually exclusive.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 01:42:08
May 08 2012 01:41 GMT
#14
On May 08 2012 10:37 BoZiffer wrote:
Nerds are nerds, just in all our different incarnations. Sports nuts fawning over box scores and lineup changes and free agency sound like... Starcraft fans doing the same (build orders, map stats, and the like). At some point there will be a union between the two - or at least an acknowledgement that most are fans of both and to be a fan of one isn't mutually exclusive.


The issue, in my experience at least, is that its much harder for "sports nerds" if you will to accept that there isn't much of a difference between what they do and what "starcraft nerds" do. Most of the "sports nerds" I know laugh at the idea of professional starcraft being existent let alone at any level that is similar to sports in any way. It sort of goes back to jock/geek stereotypes, no jock wants to be a geek no matter how similar they happen to be.
Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
May 08 2012 01:47 GMT
#15
E-Sports is slowly infiltrating the mainstream! :D
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docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
May 08 2012 01:50 GMT
#16
This is a big step actually, the more this happens the more the average person comes to know about starcraft .
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Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
May 08 2012 01:50 GMT
#17
Well, that explains the Sundance tweet to him ^.^

iirc Sundance tweeted something along the lines of: "So I heard you like competitive Starcraft..."
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Chronos.
Profile Joined February 2012
United States805 Posts
May 08 2012 01:52 GMT
#18
It's interesting that Starcraft was even mentioned on ESPN radio, but for the host to say he also watches it is pretty incredible.
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
May 08 2012 01:54 GMT
#19
Wow, that's cool as shit to get such a mainstream shout out. I really hate Gottlieb as a personality, but I bet at least a few thousand people googled Starcraft as a result of this.
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Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
May 08 2012 01:55 GMT
#20
On May 08 2012 10:41 chipmonklord17 wrote:
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On May 08 2012 10:37 BoZiffer wrote:
Nerds are nerds, just in all our different incarnations. Sports nuts fawning over box scores and lineup changes and free agency sound like... Starcraft fans doing the same (build orders, map stats, and the like). At some point there will be a union between the two - or at least an acknowledgement that most are fans of both and to be a fan of one isn't mutually exclusive.


The issue, in my experience at least, is that its much harder for "sports nerds" if you will to accept that there isn't much of a difference between what they do and what "starcraft nerds" do. Most of the "sports nerds" I know laugh at the idea of professional starcraft being existent let alone at any level that is similar to sports in any way. It sort of goes back to jock/geek stereotypes, no jock wants to be a geek no matter how similar they happen to be.


My experience in the home domain of sports nerds, the comments sections of statistic and strategic analysis blogs, is that a lot of them are gamers already, a good number of them enjoy competitive gaming in some fashion, and all of them enjoy Keen gifs.
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