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Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
February 17 2012 23:46 GMT
#121
On February 18 2012 00:15 Grubby wrote:
Think of my opponents, who have unwittingly sharpened my steel by grinding me on the whetstone of defeat.


Lyrical mastermind.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
moocow2009
Profile Joined October 2011
77 Posts
February 17 2012 23:46 GMT
#122
On February 18 2012 08:38 Monkay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 08:35 Jetaap wrote:
On February 18 2012 08:18 IMNasty wrote:
demuslim just called out grubby

Where did he do that?


Incontrols stream, basically he said he talked to Feast and he didn't know about this thing. Furthermore in the beginning when Grubby did the switch Feast helped Grubby not the other way around


Wait, Incontrol said that Feast said he didn't know about this? Check Feast's twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/MillFeast. He seems to not only know about it, but be quite okay with it. And if you read the OP, Grubby does mention that Feast helped him out when he first switched to Starcraft 2, so I'm not sure why you're bringing it up.

I have no idea what DeMuslim meant.
Darkomicron
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands216 Posts
February 17 2012 23:46 GMT
#123
I'm jealous of Feast, haha!

Best of luck Feast, I'm sure you have a bright e-sports future with Grubby at your side!

Grubby, I like how you're helping everyone out as much as possible, while still practicing and continuing your own e-sports career. You really do what you love, and what you do is amazing =)
"Night will fall, and so will you"
sereniity
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden1159 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-17 23:49:40
February 17 2012 23:46 GMT
#124
On February 18 2012 01:47 Bommes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 00:38 sereniity wrote:
On February 18 2012 00:15 Grubby wrote:

About me, and about being a solo player:
As you may know, I am Manuel "Grubby" Schenkhuizen from the Netherlands. In April 2011, my wife and I have gone independent.


Just curious, does this mean that you have enough money to live the rest of your life without working or?

Slightly confused but very curious :D.


Yeah, I'm pretty sure Grubby has a loft in New York and billions of dollars on his multidigit number of bank accounts.

I think independant means that he doesn't have a contract with an esports team at the moment.


That's not what independent means at all lol, thanks for the douche sarcasm though.

Seeing as he seems to have enough money to get himself to every event around the world I don't think my question was dumb, maybe I just interpreted your sarcasm the wrong way though x).

EDIT: I'm a huge DeMusliM fan, sounds like a really dumb "rant" or whatever from his part though, Grubby mentioned in the OP that Feast had helped him out, Feast tweeted about this thing so he obviously knows about it. Sounds abit like a bitter thing from WC3 (I didn't play WC3 so I don't know about their history, just a guess).
"I am Day9, Holy shit!"
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
February 17 2012 23:48 GMT
#125
On February 18 2012 08:46 moocow2009 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 08:38 Monkay wrote:
On February 18 2012 08:35 Jetaap wrote:
On February 18 2012 08:18 IMNasty wrote:
demuslim just called out grubby

Where did he do that?


Incontrols stream, basically he said he talked to Feast and he didn't know about this thing. Furthermore in the beginning when Grubby did the switch Feast helped Grubby not the other way around


Wait, Incontrol said that Feast said he didn't know about this? Check Feast's twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/MillFeast. He seems to not only know about it, but be quite okay with it. And if you read the OP, Grubby does mention that Feast helped him out when he first switched to Starcraft 2, so I'm not sure why you're bringing it up.

I have no idea what DeMuslim meant.


no, incontrol only brought the subject up on his stream, and asked more about it, correcting machine that this thread wasnt written by some fanboy but by grubby himself.

only after that, demuslim called it "complete bullshit" and so on, saying that if anything feast is a mentor to grubby...
"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch." - intrigue
MattSC2
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom27 Posts
February 17 2012 23:49 GMT
#126
Niiiice! Hope you both have a productive and rewarding relationship.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
February 17 2012 23:49 GMT
#127
On February 18 2012 08:46 sereniity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 01:47 Bommes wrote:
On February 18 2012 00:38 sereniity wrote:
On February 18 2012 00:15 Grubby wrote:

About me, and about being a solo player:
As you may know, I am Manuel "Grubby" Schenkhuizen from the Netherlands. In April 2011, my wife and I have gone independent.


Just curious, does this mean that you have enough money to live the rest of your life without working or?

Slightly confused but very curious :D.


Yeah, I'm pretty sure Grubby has a loft in New York and billions of dollars on his multidigit number of bank accounts.

I think independant means that he doesn't have a contract with an esports team at the moment.


That's not what independent means at all lol, thanks for the douche sarcasm though.

Seeing as he seems to have enough money to get himself to every event around the world I don't think my question was dumb, maybe I just interpreted your sarcasm the wrong way though x).


Someone sponsors him personally which is why he's in "Team Grubby"
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
moocow2009
Profile Joined October 2011
77 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-17 23:51:52
February 17 2012 23:49 GMT
#128
On February 18 2012 08:43 snailz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 08:41 Gentso wrote:
Grubby mentioned Feast helping him in the start of his SC2 career in the OP. That's sort of irrelevant.


yeah but he called this actual thread "complete bullshit" and said when he asked feast about the "arrangement" directly that feast denies it in described form, saying "they just play 2v2 together not much else"

etc.


Check Feast's twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/MillFeast. It doesn't sound like he's objecting to this post. Maybe Feast meant that he currently just plays 2v2 with Grubby, and DeMuslim just misunderstood?

EDIT: Why do people keep bringing up that Feast mentored Grubby when Grubby first switched? Grubby isn't denying that -- he mentioned it in the OP. He's just saying that he'd like to use his experience to help Feast instead, now that he can.
sereniity
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden1159 Posts
February 17 2012 23:50 GMT
#129
On February 18 2012 08:49 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 08:46 sereniity wrote:
On February 18 2012 01:47 Bommes wrote:
On February 18 2012 00:38 sereniity wrote:
On February 18 2012 00:15 Grubby wrote:

About me, and about being a solo player:
As you may know, I am Manuel "Grubby" Schenkhuizen from the Netherlands. In April 2011, my wife and I have gone independent.


Just curious, does this mean that you have enough money to live the rest of your life without working or?

Slightly confused but very curious :D.


Yeah, I'm pretty sure Grubby has a loft in New York and billions of dollars on his multidigit number of bank accounts.

I think independant means that he doesn't have a contract with an esports team at the moment.


That's not what independent means at all lol, thanks for the douche sarcasm though.

Seeing as he seems to have enough money to get himself to every event around the world I don't think my question was dumb, maybe I just interpreted your sarcasm the wrong way though x).


Someone sponsors him personally which is why he's in "Team Grubby"


I see, any source on this. Also, is there any clear answer to my question about his wording of "independent" haha :D?
"I am Day9, Holy shit!"
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
February 17 2012 23:52 GMT
#130
Will this affect your play or practice?
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-18 00:00:00
February 17 2012 23:56 GMT
#131
On February 18 2012 08:49 moocow2009 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 08:43 snailz wrote:
On February 18 2012 08:41 Gentso wrote:
Grubby mentioned Feast helping him in the start of his SC2 career in the OP. That's sort of irrelevant.


yeah but he called this actual thread "complete bullshit" and said when he asked feast about the "arrangement" directly that feast denies it in described form, saying "they just play 2v2 together not much else"

etc.


EDIT: Why do people keep bringing up that Feast mentored Grubby when Grubby first switched? Grubby isn't denying that -- he mentioned it in the OP. He's just saying that he'd like to use his experience to help Feast instead, now that he can.


because till now it was "feast helped grubby in the beggining", and now it's "if anything feast mentors grubby"

tone of demuslim saying it is what's new and interesting. everybody knew they helped each other out, it's even in the OP

edit: it also shits on the very idea of this partnership, implying grubby is not good enough to mentor feast... i hope you get it now
"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch." - intrigue
Sylfyre
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia222 Posts
February 17 2012 23:56 GMT
#132
I wish I was Feast lol XD gl to you both =D
sereniity
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden1159 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-18 01:04:03
February 18 2012 00:02 GMT
#133
Just tuned in to InControls stream now to listen to their little smack talk, shit-talking NaNiwa and then going "yeah he's a nice guy though..." and then they smack talk him even more. As I said in my earlier post I'm a huge fan of EG players but they're being pretty damn ridicolous on stream now.

EDIT: Sorry for going off-topic t.t...

GL to Feast and Grubby, nice to see something new!
"I am Day9, Holy shit!"
Lavit2099
Profile Joined November 2011
United States390 Posts
February 18 2012 00:09 GMT
#134
On February 18 2012 09:02 sereniity wrote:
Just tuned in to InControls stream now to listen to their little smack talk, shit-talking NaNiwa like crazy and then going "yeah he's a nice guy though..." and then they smack talk him even more. As I said in my earlier post I'm a huge fan of EG players but they're being pretty damn ridicolous on stream now.

EDIT: Sorry for going off-topic t.t...

GL to Feast and Grubby, nice to see something new!


It might be iNcontroL's stream but there's a lot of people on Skype talking about NaNi that aren't EG people.
Isillian
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom145 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-18 01:03:50
February 18 2012 00:13 GMT
#135
Awesome news, hope that this will help Feast reach his full potential as a player. Things like this just reinforce why grubby is one of my favourite players.

Auren
Profile Joined November 2011
United States82 Posts
February 18 2012 00:17 GMT
#136
On February 18 2012 08:56 snailz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 08:49 moocow2009 wrote:
On February 18 2012 08:43 snailz wrote:
On February 18 2012 08:41 Gentso wrote:
Grubby mentioned Feast helping him in the start of his SC2 career in the OP. That's sort of irrelevant.


yeah but he called this actual thread "complete bullshit" and said when he asked feast about the "arrangement" directly that feast denies it in described form, saying "they just play 2v2 together not much else"

etc.


EDIT: Why do people keep bringing up that Feast mentored Grubby when Grubby first switched? Grubby isn't denying that -- he mentioned it in the OP. He's just saying that he'd like to use his experience to help Feast instead, now that he can.


because till now it was "feast helped grubby in the beggining", and now it's "if anything feast mentors grubby"

tone of demuslim saying it is what's new and interesting. everybody knew they helped each other out, it's even in the OP

edit: it also shits on the very idea of this partnership, implying grubby is not good enough to mentor feast... i hope you get it now


That seems like a bit of a silly view point But I suppose I consider a coach and a mentor to not neccesarily be the same thing. Perhaps he's not a better player but I think grubby has quite a bit of useful knowledge to share with a young gamer on simply "being a pro".
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
February 18 2012 00:19 GMT
#137
On February 18 2012 09:17 Auren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 08:56 snailz wrote:
On February 18 2012 08:49 moocow2009 wrote:
On February 18 2012 08:43 snailz wrote:
On February 18 2012 08:41 Gentso wrote:
Grubby mentioned Feast helping him in the start of his SC2 career in the OP. That's sort of irrelevant.


yeah but he called this actual thread "complete bullshit" and said when he asked feast about the "arrangement" directly that feast denies it in described form, saying "they just play 2v2 together not much else"

etc.


EDIT: Why do people keep bringing up that Feast mentored Grubby when Grubby first switched? Grubby isn't denying that -- he mentioned it in the OP. He's just saying that he'd like to use his experience to help Feast instead, now that he can.


because till now it was "feast helped grubby in the beggining", and now it's "if anything feast mentors grubby"

tone of demuslim saying it is what's new and interesting. everybody knew they helped each other out, it's even in the OP

edit: it also shits on the very idea of this partnership, implying grubby is not good enough to mentor feast... i hope you get it now


That seems like a bit of a silly view point But I suppose I consider a coach and a mentor to not neccesarily be the same thing. Perhaps he's not a better player but I think grubby has quite a bit of useful knowledge to share with a young gamer on simply "being a pro".


hey, it's not my silly point of view go few pages back, we're talking about demuslim calling this thread "complete bullshit"
"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch." - intrigue
amiGo_O
Profile Joined February 2012
Czech Republic959 Posts
February 18 2012 00:20 GMT
#138
great news for Feast, on the other hand I hope that Grubby will still focus on his own training most of the time
gl both
♥ In Loda we trust ♥
sereniity
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden1159 Posts
February 18 2012 00:28 GMT
#139
On February 18 2012 09:09 lavit2099 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 09:02 sereniity wrote:
Just tuned in to InControls stream now to listen to their little smack talk, shit-talking NaNiwa like crazy and then going "yeah he's a nice guy though..." and then they smack talk him even more. As I said in my earlier post I'm a huge fan of EG players but they're being pretty damn ridicolous on stream now.

EDIT: Sorry for going off-topic t.t...

GL to Feast and Grubby, nice to see something new!


It might be iNcontroL's stream but there's a lot of people on Skype talking about NaNi that aren't EG people.


I'm specifically talking about DeMuslim mainly, abit of Catz too which I know isn't related to EG .
"I am Day9, Holy shit!"
Picklebread
Profile Joined June 2011
808 Posts
February 18 2012 00:32 GMT
#140
Man people care so much bout people spewing couple words my gosh o-o.
Anyways, best of luck grubby/feast! gonna make a big impact this year i can feel it :p
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