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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
February 13 2012 23:19 GMT
#261
Well, barcraft it is, I suppose!
CuteZergling
Profile Joined November 2011
641 Posts
February 13 2012 23:19 GMT
#262
As for the Asus vs MLG argument, MLG's player list is farrrrrrrrrr more exciting than Asus's, in my opinion.
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Asymmetric
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland1309 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 23:21:56
February 13 2012 23:19 GMT
#263
I've got to draw the line somewhere, it's only Feb and I've paid for:

- A year pass for GSL.
- A year pass for the GSTL.
- A year pass for ESL.

I'm already up at $240 for 2012. Pity, because I was wanting to watch MLG.

Hopefully they do an NASL and slash the price to practically nothing on the final day, I might catch the round8/4 onwards then.
hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
February 13 2012 23:19 GMT
#264
20 bucks seems overpriced for a 3 day event to me, especially if assembly runs at the same time. I would be totally fine with something like 10 bucks.
BilltownRunner
Profile Joined July 2010
United States229 Posts
February 13 2012 23:19 GMT
#265
Damn was really looking forward to this MLG. I can't fork out 20 bucks,especially when assembly is the same weekend.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
February 13 2012 23:19 GMT
#266
Not only is $20 a huge amount, but the fact that Gold Members (I still find that name hilarious btw) don't get in on it is insane. Not cool, the euro event on that weekend it is, I'll check out the vods a week later.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
latan
Profile Joined July 2010
740 Posts
February 13 2012 23:19 GMT
#267
kind of a dick move to announce this now.
Acronysis
Profile Joined November 2011
872 Posts
February 13 2012 23:19 GMT
#268
If i had the money to spare, youd have it mlg. Though pricey, i agree with this step. Hope people don't completely turn it down.

Still gonna be a freaking awesome tourney regardless and if i have to wait a week so be it =).
The multiplying villanies of man do swarm upon him.
chesshaha
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1117 Posts
February 13 2012 23:20 GMT
#269
Not a good move by MLG... Sad news.
"Hopefully you're not the real TLO so it's not casted" - SpecialK
StimilantE
Profile Joined November 2011
61 Posts
February 13 2012 23:20 GMT
#270
i understand why MLG is doing this, they need a sustainable business model, last year in 2011 i was a premium Gold member of MLG, while i wasnt really happy with what i felt was a waste of money for gold, my friends thought it was awesome and enjoyed it. I really do love mlg its awesome but i find myself wanting to spend less money promoting MLG... sorry guys.
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
February 13 2012 23:20 GMT
#271
On February 14 2012 08:10 JOJOsc2news wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 08:06 Xxio wrote:
lol you people saying $20 dollars is too much. It's such a good deal - just how poor are you?
you've all been spoiled by free, unsustainable, low standard content, says I


Bit harsh. GSL is arguably of at least equal quality and is much cheaper (a whole month of content for less). I agree that monetizing events through PPV can be a way of finally making eSports lucrative but it should be in relation to the competition.


Well it sounds like it's going to be a lot of content and just think of all the crap that people regularly spend $20 dollars on. I think a long history of mediocre free content has turned many people into penny pinchers when it comes to esports. Hopefully the content MLG produces this year will truly raise standards and people will see that content can be produced that is worth this amount of money. But I've been disappointed before. Maybe it will be the same kind of thing we've always seen and not be worth the money at all. Who knows.
KTY
ZerguufOu
Profile Joined December 2011
United States107 Posts
February 13 2012 23:20 GMT
#272
Id rather spend the money on GOM and tastetosis
careohx
Profile Joined June 2011
263 Posts
February 13 2012 23:20 GMT
#273
On February 14 2012 08:17 JiYan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 08:06 Xxio wrote:
lol you people saying $20 dollars is too much. It's such a good deal - just how poor are you?
you've all been spoiled by free, unsustainable, low standard content, says I


for 170$ you get to stream every NBA game in the entire season with commentary at the highest quality on the web. You also get the VODs. In a normal NBA season there are 1230 games that each last a few hours. If i counted correctly, there are 62 x Bo3 in the winter arena. I think its fair if not charitable to MLG to equate one Bo3 to one basketball game.

That brings us to 62 matches for 20$ vs 1230 matches for 170$.

thoughts?


Are you really comparing NBA to Starcraft2 ??? we are so not there yet.. NBA has all the major sponsors possible . If it didnt you would have to pay 2000.. to cover their expenses...
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
February 13 2012 23:20 GMT
#274
On February 14 2012 08:16 THM wrote:
Wow, what a terrible TERRIBLE decision. Sundance seemed to me like a guy with some common sense, can't believe he would approve of this.


Afaik, it's John Nelson who makes the decisions. Gogo extended series!
SC2, rip in pepperinos
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
February 13 2012 23:20 GMT
#275
i wont be watching this gogo assembly ;D
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
Volrath
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden45 Posts
February 13 2012 23:20 GMT
#276
Thing is, 20$ is ALOT by e-sports standards for a 3 day event. Even GSL is cheaper and has waaay more content. You have to set your prices to match your market, which MLG isn't. Especially with another big event going on at the same time. This is borderline stupid to be honest. It does not matter that UFC or some other well established sport is 5 times more expensive, this is irrelevant for e-sports. The e-sports scene is not there yet and they will likely loose alot in ad revenue, much more than they will add with this new cash flow.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
February 13 2012 23:20 GMT
#277
On February 14 2012 08:17 JiYan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 08:06 Xxio wrote:
lol you people saying $20 dollars is too much. It's such a good deal - just how poor are you?
you've all been spoiled by free, unsustainable, low standard content, says I


for 170$ you get to stream every NBA game in the entire season with commentary at the highest quality on the web. You also get the VODs. In a normal NBA season there are 1230 games that each last a few hours. If i counted correctly, there are 62 x Bo3 in the winter arena. I think its fair if not charitable to MLG to equate one Bo3 to one basketball game.

That brings us to 62 matches for 20$ vs 1230 matches for 170$.

thoughts?


1 Basketball match to 1 Bo3?


Pretty generous but like I said the idea that MLG would even try this outrages me pretty hard.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
February 13 2012 23:20 GMT
#278
On February 14 2012 08:17 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 08:14 EternitysEnd wrote:
So I guess Blizzard's official "video policy" doesn't pertain to MLG?

http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/legal/videopolicy.html

I could be way off...can anyone explain this to me?
Or do the freed vods one week later do the trick?


This need to get more attention.

It seems it's against Blizzard policy to use their games if you don't give a free way to watch it.


GSL have already done PPV-only events.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
finalboss2
Profile Joined August 2011
United States34 Posts
February 13 2012 23:20 GMT
#279
I'm not paying 20 dollars for this when I already:

1) Have a gold subscription for a subpar HD feed that barely lets me read the mineral count at the top right and they now want me to pay more

2) Want to support the GSL

3) Already have the option to watch Assembly for free

Really poorly done by MLG.
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
February 13 2012 23:20 GMT
#280
20 Dollars?! Umm.. Nope.

I'm already a bloody gold member, now you want more money? Which I would understand if it was at least half that. Too much.
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