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Criticism is allowed. Undue flaming is not. Take a second to think your post through before you submit.

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Should go without saying, but don't link restreams here either.
jonathan1
Profile Joined October 2010
United States395 Posts
February 13 2012 23:17 GMT
#241
It's too much money, I would normally never watch Assembly over an MLG but I'll have to make an exception this time.
Fanek
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland344 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 23:17:36
February 13 2012 23:17 GMT
#242
If I good understand - I have to pay 20$ for watch the stream?
Can I watch in low quality for free ?

please for answer
hello
zocktol
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1928 Posts
February 13 2012 23:17 GMT
#243
On February 14 2012 08:11 StarcraftNerd1547 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 08:07 Otolia wrote:
On February 14 2012 08:02 rewired wrote:
MLG has my 20 bucks and anyone that thinks that 20 dollars USD is outrageous then you are spoiled because what you are getting is worth way the hell more than what you are paying for it.

Thank you for entertaining us with your developed-countries douchery. Everybody can't afford it; I can, you can. People in Mexico, Brazil, Russia etc can't always.

Next time you could spare us your poorly thought patronizing.


Could not have said it better myself, the argument that you are spolied if you can't afford 20 bucks is just retarded.


If you do not have enough money to watcht eh premium service, you can still watch the free stream.
If 20$ is a lot of money to you, a SC2 tournament might be not the thing you are most worried about.
bobzx
Profile Joined July 2011
14 Posts
February 13 2012 23:17 GMT
#244
Considering there flying out 32 players and putting them up in hotels this doesn't seem to bad. We're just use to having everything for free but the more this grows the more stuff like this will happen. When you compare it to something like UFC people pay $50 for a couple hours of fights, with this your getting 3 days of something you enjoy for $20. Grow up and support what you enjoy.
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
February 13 2012 23:17 GMT
#245
While it sucks, there are some points...

Its new content. If you don't want to pay, you aren't closing out on anything that wasn't available to you last year. It will also show them how dedicated people might be. Granted, it still probably wasn't the best time for it, and they could have told everyone when they first announced it. Ill probably just watch assembly.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 13 2012 23:17 GMT
#246
On February 14 2012 08:13 huehuehuehue wrote:
For the people who are "omg 20 bukks are you poor lul thats nothing", you have to consider that most SC fans are young, and probably don't have loads of money to spend. Obviously you can say that "well the game costs 60$ and look at how much your computer costs", but that's not the same, you can't compare them. I'm 15 and there is no way that i would pay 20$ just to watch ONE event, maybe for a month of GSL i'd pay.

Out of intrest, how much does PPV cost for the viewers of boxing/MMA or whatever else?

Also, someone should make a poll to see how many people are going to pay for this and how many are not.


I've edited my post on the first page with a poll.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 23:20:25
February 13 2012 23:17 GMT
#247
On February 14 2012 08:13 nick1689 wrote:
$20 for over 20 hours of awesomeness? Why the fuck is everyone complaining? Thats nothing. You guys cant spare 20 bucks? Thats like a dollar an hour, 50c per game (on average). Im a poor student and even I can afford this, just don't go out on the wkend or something, its not hard to budget $20.

For SC2, and esports in general, to become big, it needs to be monetized. And you guys cant spare 20 bucks to watch the best SC2 players in the world go at? Are you kidding me? This is a small fee for alot of content, high-end production, where we'll probably see some of the most epic games in SC2 to date

Assembly is for free. And on at the same time. And FREE VODs will be uploaded a week after. I'm sorry if I'm a frugal person who likes to save my money for rent, bills, and emergencies.
Also, GSL is $15. For an entire freaking season. How many games is that? And how long/how many games will MLG last for $20?
So not worth it.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
February 13 2012 23:17 GMT
#248
20$ for one weekend in to much, 20$ for all the Arenas I would be fine with..
The Circuit is not included and that also costs money to be able to see it in HD and the extra streams.

This will only hurt the SC2 Esport...
The curse is real
Absurdly
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada59 Posts
February 13 2012 23:17 GMT
#249
I'd rather buy a ticket for a GSL season than this. GL though.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
February 13 2012 23:17 GMT
#250
On February 14 2012 08:14 EternitysEnd wrote:
So I guess Blizzard's official "video policy" doesn't pertain to MLG?

http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/legal/videopolicy.html

I could be way off...can anyone explain this to me?
Or do the freed vods one week later do the trick?


This need to get more attention.

It seems it's against Blizzard policy to use their games if you don't give a free way to watch it.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
February 13 2012 23:17 GMT
#251
On February 14 2012 08:06 Xxio wrote:
lol you people saying $20 dollars is too much. It's such a good deal - just how poor are you?
you've all been spoiled by free, unsustainable, low standard content, says I


for 170$ you get to stream every NBA game in the entire season with commentary at the highest quality on the web. You also get the VODs. In a normal NBA season there are 1230 games that each last a few hours. If i counted correctly, there are 62 x Bo3 in the winter arena. I think its fair if not charitable to MLG to equate one Bo3 to one basketball game.

That brings us to 62 matches for 20$ vs 1230 matches for 170$.

thoughts?
Logan_ps
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom118 Posts
February 13 2012 23:18 GMT
#252
I'll be interested to see how long it takes for MLG to consider charging Bar Craft's $750+ for a PPV license...and interested to see what Blizzard will have to say about it - if it happens.
wattabeast
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States957 Posts
February 13 2012 23:18 GMT
#253
Guys just saying the first matches on friday and saturday will be free so you can check those out to see if you want to pay the 20$
:O
careohx
Profile Joined June 2011
263 Posts
February 13 2012 23:18 GMT
#254
On February 14 2012 08:10 NewK wrote:
MLG is so greedy it's not even funny. They're charging 20$ for a 3day stream with ads while us gold-members aren't covered at all. Yet they have such a low price pool compared to a tournament like Dreamhack where you get HD stream for FREE while sitting thru 1 telia ad with calm music in it between each game. I'd rather donate 20$ to DreamHack and watch Assembly than pay MLG 20$ and watch both. Sundance is only in it for the money.


Yeah the price pool may not be 100k but they are paying full travel fees for 32 PLAYERS please think before you speak. You could just as well think of it as prize and then the prize pool is 125k....
MLG has the best players in the world right now. NesTea,MVP,HuK,MC,PartinG,MarineKing,NaNiwa,Leenock,Oz...... You rarely see such stacked tournament.
If we want Esports to grow this is necessary.
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
February 13 2012 23:18 GMT
#255
On February 14 2012 08:17 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 08:14 EternitysEnd wrote:
So I guess Blizzard's official "video policy" doesn't pertain to MLG?

http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/legal/videopolicy.html

I could be way off...can anyone explain this to me?
Or do the freed vods one week later do the trick?


This need to get more attention.

It seems it's against Blizzard policy to use their games if you don't give a free way to watch it.

I doubt Blizzard's generic website rules apply to MLG. They almost certainly have their own licensing arrangement.
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Noremack.cm
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia91 Posts
February 13 2012 23:18 GMT
#256
I get a month of GOM for that price which I have paid for since open season 1. $20 is to much for a single weekend which I probably wont be able to watch completely.
eltese
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden369 Posts
February 13 2012 23:18 GMT
#257
Well.. 20 bucks for like 2-3 MLG's and I would have paid. If this model will be for all future MLG's (stands to reason if they get a decent viewership this weekend) I will not.

Call it spoiled or whatever but I am simply not gonna throw around my money for this. I really enjoy MLG but there are plenty of other tournaments I care just as much or more about.

Now 20 bucks for removal of extended series and we might have a deal
adiga
Profile Joined July 2011
495 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 23:22:35
February 13 2012 23:19 GMT
#258
20 dollars for a 3 days? that crosses the line for me, I'm sorry that I'm a student and keep it up with that amound of money.
I was thinking about if I should buy tickets for GSL seasons which last 1 month and now even 2 for 15 dollars but I'm not going to pay 20 dollar for 3 days sorry.
I really loved last year MLGs, me and my friends where even doing homecrafting for stright 3 days(+studies lol? :x) and I really don't like where MLG is heading, If it's really hard to gather a 26,000$ for prize money don't rip of the watchers for, it's not the watchers who get the money + all the cuts MLG did during the winter I really don't like it.
Too bad.
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rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
February 13 2012 23:19 GMT
#259
Bold move. Understandable, but overpriced given past MLG production quality as measure. Ten maybe, but 20 makes you think a lot harder. I really never was an early adopter so, I'm just going to pass on the first run. There is faith they can live up to the expectations at a later point- which is why I bought a gold membership after they sorted out their initial issues with the early Pro Circuits. But for now, I shall wait and see. GL HF!
drgoats
Profile Joined March 2010
United States310 Posts
February 13 2012 23:19 GMT
#260
Gladly paying. MLG continues to deliver great content.
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