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Zaxon
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium209 Posts
January 26 2012 01:21 GMT
#41
OW jeah ! OGS FTW !!
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 01:22:31
January 26 2012 01:21 GMT
#42
On January 26 2012 09:41 KvltMan wrote:
Even though I really appreciate seeing hype about the upcoming GSTL, these threads don't really seem to have as much effort put in to them as the ones in the BW forum.

Example:
BW
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=97708
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=167558
SC2
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306289
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306314

They just feel uninspired in comparison, and it feels like post like this and the above-mentioned FXO-post feels like posts that people made because they saw one about TSL, and one about Prime (which are well made, I might add.)
But seeing hype-posts without any pictures, tales, memorable quotes, analysis or banners just misses the entire point of hyping shit up, imo.

I am sorry if I come across like a twat and a total asshat, but I don't want this tradition from BW to turn in to something... Well, worse. We all saw what happened with the thread about "Cool unsual SC2" that mimicked the one in the BW-forum?
SC2
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=199993
BW
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=197538

So, guys. I am not hating, I just know that we can do better! :D


I think the reason is that people don't have the same attachment to teams in SC2 as we had in BW. With passionate fanboys comes in-depth posts full of knowledge only a true fanboy would know. It's no surprise that the best "Why _____ Will Win the GSTL" post so far was the one made by VirgilSC2 who is one of the few posters on the SC2 side with an extreme affinity towards a particular team (or at least he did until the recent Coach Lee drama). Only a small minority of SC2 posters wear their team colors so boldly whereas on the BW forums it's actually the norm. The main issue here is that proleague was the backbone of professional BW whereas GSTL is just a side show. There is no avenue for heated team rivalries to develop. It also doesn't help that we don't have SC2 team icons to brandish like we do on the BW side.
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
January 26 2012 01:35 GMT
#43
That Inca joke still hasn't gotten old for me.XD
Someone call down the Thunder?
Polarexia
Profile Joined November 2010
United States383 Posts
January 26 2012 01:36 GMT
#44
But how can oGs win when TSL will?
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 01:39:35
January 26 2012 01:37 GMT
#45
Slayers or MVP this season.


BTW what's the word on Fantasy GSTL this season? I got absolutely facerolled last time despite doing pretty well in the liquibet.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
January 26 2012 01:37 GMT
#46
For convenience sake, can someone consolidate all the "Why X Team will win the GSTL" into one thread.

"let your freak flag fly"
ptrpb
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada753 Posts
January 26 2012 01:39 GMT
#47
Needs more on InCa and a loottt more on SuperNoVa
MBAACC | SG | shit at fighting games
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
January 26 2012 01:41 GMT
#48
On January 26 2012 10:21 red4ce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2012 09:41 KvltMan wrote:
Even though I really appreciate seeing hype about the upcoming GSTL, these threads don't really seem to have as much effort put in to them as the ones in the BW forum.

Example:
BW
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=97708
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=167558
SC2
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306289
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306314

They just feel uninspired in comparison, and it feels like post like this and the above-mentioned FXO-post feels like posts that people made because they saw one about TSL, and one about Prime (which are well made, I might add.)
But seeing hype-posts without any pictures, tales, memorable quotes, analysis or banners just misses the entire point of hyping shit up, imo.

I am sorry if I come across like a twat and a total asshat, but I don't want this tradition from BW to turn in to something... Well, worse. We all saw what happened with the thread about "Cool unsual SC2" that mimicked the one in the BW-forum?
SC2
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=199993
BW
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=197538

So, guys. I am not hating, I just know that we can do better! :D


I think the reason is that people don't have the same attachment to teams in SC2 as we had in BW. With passionate fanboys comes in-depth posts full of knowledge only a true fanboy would know. It's no surprise that the best "Why _____ Will Win the GSTL" post so far was the one made by VirgilSC2 who is one of the few posters on the SC2 side with an extreme affinity towards a particular team (or at least he did until the recent Coach Lee drama). Only a small minority of SC2 posters wear their team colors so boldly whereas on the BW forums it's actually the norm. The main issue here is that proleague was the backbone of professional BW whereas GSTL is just a side show. There is no avenue for heated team rivalries to develop. It also doesn't help that we don't have SC2 team icons to brandish like we do on the BW side.


Or: The 4 or so people who made the SC2 ones are lazier than the 4 or so who made the BW ones.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
January 26 2012 01:46 GMT
#49
On January 26 2012 10:41 ampson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2012 10:21 red4ce wrote:
On January 26 2012 09:41 KvltMan wrote:
Even though I really appreciate seeing hype about the upcoming GSTL, these threads don't really seem to have as much effort put in to them as the ones in the BW forum.

Example:
BW
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=97708
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=167558
SC2
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306289
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306314

They just feel uninspired in comparison, and it feels like post like this and the above-mentioned FXO-post feels like posts that people made because they saw one about TSL, and one about Prime (which are well made, I might add.)
But seeing hype-posts without any pictures, tales, memorable quotes, analysis or banners just misses the entire point of hyping shit up, imo.

I am sorry if I come across like a twat and a total asshat, but I don't want this tradition from BW to turn in to something... Well, worse. We all saw what happened with the thread about "Cool unsual SC2" that mimicked the one in the BW-forum?
SC2
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=199993
BW
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=197538

So, guys. I am not hating, I just know that we can do better! :D


I think the reason is that people don't have the same attachment to teams in SC2 as we had in BW. With passionate fanboys comes in-depth posts full of knowledge only a true fanboy would know. It's no surprise that the best "Why _____ Will Win the GSTL" post so far was the one made by VirgilSC2 who is one of the few posters on the SC2 side with an extreme affinity towards a particular team (or at least he did until the recent Coach Lee drama). Only a small minority of SC2 posters wear their team colors so boldly whereas on the BW forums it's actually the norm. The main issue here is that proleague was the backbone of professional BW whereas GSTL is just a side show. There is no avenue for heated team rivalries to develop. It also doesn't help that we don't have SC2 team icons to brandish like we do on the BW side.


Or: The 4 or so people who made the SC2 ones are lazier than the 4 or so who made the BW ones.

Yeah, I think this is it lol.

All the threads so far (minus vigils TSL one) trying to hype aren't hyping well due to not enough effort in the OP...If you really put in the effort these threads are really really awesome. But right now they're just meh.
ImmortalTofu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1254 Posts
January 26 2012 01:47 GMT
#50
-.- I had a draft of this going..... Anywayyy. I think you fail to mention that STC and Supernova are powerful aces (where's stc as a standout in your post? O.o, finals of Korean weekly bro) and that oGs has a good team composition with TWO reliable terran aces (who are less liable to fall to cheesy antics in general) and two powerful snipers in ForGG and Inca. Backed by its high level coach (one of only one or two high level korean coaches along with inca and possibly (?) cella?), and pretty strong line of second-string players in Vines (who's finally starting to hit his stride), TOP (who played above expectations in the matches shown in King of Kongs), the upcoming Illusion (or icecream, who won a TL Open), Jookto and Luvsic (two underrated and at least mid-high tier code A players), and NaDa (who barely lost in his tough GSL group) I think the chances of them doing well is unquestionable.
"Friendship ain't a business deal"
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
January 26 2012 01:49 GMT
#51
On January 26 2012 10:47 ImmortalTofu wrote:
-.- I had a draft of this going..... Anywayyy. I think you fail to mention that STC and Supernova are powerful aces (where's stc as a standout in your post? O.o, finals of Korean weekly bro) and that oGs has a good team composition with TWO reliable terran aces (who are less liable to fall to cheesy antics in general) and two powerful snipers in ForGG and Inca. Backed by its high level coach (one of only one or two high level korean coaches along with inca and possibly (?) cella?), and pretty strong line of second-string players in Vines (who's finally starting to hit his stride), TOP (who played above expectations in the matches shown in King of Kongs), the upcoming Illusion (or icecream, who won a TL Open), Jookto and Luvsic (two underrated and at least mid-high tier code A players), and NaDa (who barely lost in his tough GSL group) I think the chances of them doing well is unquestionable.

If I were you I'd finish it if you put a lot of effort into it. I think really well written hype threads are good. I personally think that this is not one of them. So if you feel yours is really good and detailed then please, please finish it
ImmortalTofu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1254 Posts
January 26 2012 01:50 GMT
#52
^Ok! I'll think about getting it completely up, but it probably wouldn't be in that state until the weekend. We'll see :D I'll get back to work on it ^^
"Friendship ain't a business deal"
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
January 26 2012 01:52 GMT
#53
On January 26 2012 10:50 ImmortalTofu wrote:
^Ok! I'll think about getting it completely up, but it probably wouldn't be in that state until the weekend. We'll see :D I'll get back to work on it ^^

Let nothing stand in the way of quality contributions~!

The higher the bar gets raised, the better.
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
Kluey
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1197 Posts
January 26 2012 01:53 GMT
#54
Zenio, HerO? The oGs-TL is still intact.
ptrpb
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada753 Posts
January 26 2012 01:53 GMT
#55
It's a shame I wanted to make a thread about why oGs will actually win the GSTL as a oGsfan from launch but oh well. Maybe I'll make mine in blogs..
MBAACC | SG | shit at fighting games
Leifish
Profile Joined July 2011
851 Posts
January 26 2012 02:28 GMT
#56
Without MC, oGs is done for!
ShangMing
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada106 Posts
January 26 2012 02:51 GMT
#57
On January 26 2012 09:38 Mortal wrote:
I'm pretty sure one of these has been made for every team... am I missing something?


It's not done yet. We still need a thread for analyses on every single individual player.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 02:54:06
January 26 2012 02:52 GMT
#58
On January 26 2012 11:28 Leifish wrote:
Without MC, oGs is done for!

pffffffft oGs ain't no one trick pony.
supernova is a threat in all mus, vines and luvsic have been touted since forever as an up-and-coming players, inca is a pvp god, fin is.. for5gg, thestc and top are always threats, and they have the eternal bonjwa. AND THEY HAVE JONGMI yeeeeeee
oGs isn't going anywhere.

edit: I meant "anywhere but up."
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
January 26 2012 03:10 GMT
#59
what about TheSTC?
User was warned for too many mimes.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 26 2012 03:13 GMT
#60
On January 26 2012 09:41 KvltMan wrote:
Even though I really appreciate seeing hype about the upcoming GSTL, these threads don't really seem to have as much effort put in to them as the ones in the BW forum.

Example:
BW
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=97708
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=167558
SC2
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306289
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306314

They just feel uninspired in comparison, and it feels like post like this and the above-mentioned FXO-post feels like posts that people made because they saw one about TSL, and one about Prime (which are well made, I might add.)
But seeing hype-posts without any pictures, tales, memorable quotes, analysis or banners just misses the entire point of hyping shit up, imo.

I am sorry if I come across like a twat and a total asshat, but I don't want this tradition from BW to turn in to something... Well, worse. We all saw what happened with the thread about "Cool unsual SC2" that mimicked the one in the BW-forum?
SC2
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=199993
BW
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=197538

So, guys. I am not hating, I just know that we can do better! :D


There IS a good Starcraft 2 one
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