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mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
December 19 2011 20:59 GMT
#121
if they take away sotg... ill fukin tweet jp to hell -.-
Long live the Boss Toss!
coolcor
Profile Joined February 2011
520 Posts
December 19 2011 20:59 GMT
#122
On December 20 2011 05:43 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 05:23 Charger wrote:
Is MLG struggling financially or something (does this have anything to do with the layoffs at MLG recently) or am I reading too much into this?


thats what my question would be. But could never imagine this being the case.


Why not?

The problem is that these leagues don't make money. No esport league makes money. MLG is MAYBE the only league to make money in 2011, and I'm even dubious about that... but luckily they had $10 million in VC money to play with on the year, and I'm sure they have more long term plans so it doesn't matter if they don't make money this year...


quote from Xeris


shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
December 19 2011 20:59 GMT
#123
F Slasher was such an underrated show, too many ESPORTS junkies latching on to dumb opinions Slasher held about player/casters rather than the tournament coverage which was always excellent. I will truly miss it.
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evoli
Profile Joined May 2010
United States333 Posts
December 19 2011 21:00 GMT
#124
Really sad to see Fuck Slasher and the SC Report go.

Rod and Patrick are both extremely talented and I'm looking forward to whatever new projects they may start.
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ES_JohnClark
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1121 Posts
December 19 2011 21:00 GMT
#125
again.. what production costs go into an internet show? The studio is already there.. turning the lights on and camera on.. do not cost that much. Slasher worked on his own content im sure.. i doubt highly anyone was paid to do his dirty work.
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Oiseaux
Profile Joined May 2011
United States676 Posts
December 19 2011 21:01 GMT
#126
Assuming SotG is fine, F Slasher is what I'll really miss. LO3 feels like the overarching summary of E-Sports and F Slasher feels like Rod taking the extra time (since he has it with how often the show occurs) to go into more details and opinions on those topics. The two really go well with each other.
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ES_JohnClark
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1121 Posts
December 19 2011 21:02 GMT
#127
On December 20 2011 05:59 coolcor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 05:43 KalWarkov wrote:
On December 20 2011 05:23 Charger wrote:
Is MLG struggling financially or something (does this have anything to do with the layoffs at MLG recently) or am I reading too much into this?


thats what my question would be. But could never imagine this being the case.


Why not?

Show nested quote +
The problem is that these leagues don't make money. No esport league makes money. MLG is MAYBE the only league to make money in 2011, and I'm even dubious about that... but luckily they had $10 million in VC money to play with on the year, and I'm sure they have more long term plans so it doesn't matter if they don't make money this year...


quote from Xeris





ESL makes money and so does ESEA. You wanna know why? Cause they are actual 'leagues' that cater to a larger base and feed off of it to provide for the 1%ers (pros that make a living from gaming). ESL is a 10 year old company.. having built the largest esports network in the world.. (more then MLG, NASL, ESEA combined I would guess)

Still Naked!
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
December 19 2011 21:02 GMT
#128
On December 20 2011 05:36 deadmau wrote:
You guys seriously watch any of that? Never would have thought a large number of viewers even watched, enough for advertisers to care at least. Just because a few people care doesn't make it viable to keep running for MLG, same stuff happens with Television, not that I watch but it makes sense. Low viewership, no viability, no point. Well Slasher and SC Report at least, I can understand furor over SotG if it were to be, but seriously the others? Who really cares?


Kinda harsh way to put it but I sort of agree, that I did not really watch FuckSlasher or the ScReport. The only shows I follow are Inside the Game and State of the Game. However apparently there are people who liked it so they can't be terrible as you make it sound.

This is interesting though, I'd like to know the reasons behind this.
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taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
December 19 2011 21:02 GMT
#129
On December 20 2011 05:58 deepfield1 wrote:
Meh, most of the non SOTG shows get like 1k viewers. Can't really see it worth the production / cast costs.

Good call.



they have anywhere from 1k-2k live, at a horrible time, the whole point is they have upwards of 20k-30k vod views each...
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
December 19 2011 21:04 GMT
#130
I love SOTG! If it leaves imma be so mad. But I mean, SOTG did fine before MLG stepped on board anyways.
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Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
December 19 2011 21:04 GMT
#131
Fuck slasher was good, if they kill sotg that would be one of the most retarded thing mlg could do.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 19 2011 21:05 GMT
#132
On December 20 2011 05:24 FlyingLigerz wrote:
wth. why would they cancel these shows. i dont think they cost like anything to produce.

Um... Man hours cost money. Bandwidth cost money. Data storage cost money. The hosts cost money, since they need to eat.
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legatus legionis
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands559 Posts
December 19 2011 21:07 GMT
#133
Wow best move ever. We are lacking independent journalism. Some of the most prominent figures of the community who are capable and experienced in this are Chobopeon and Slasher.

Since I'll be going off assumptions. I'm not assuming either are being held responsible for a possible major news error on MLG's part considering the League Exchange Program with GOM.
I'm also not assuming the name Fuck Slasher was deemed inappropriate or is getting a lot of negative light from outside the community. (This is what I thought was the case in the first second).

MLG will still be able to support both. Under the table, indirect or by different means. I'm not sure if such a construct is in place. If not I hope they will be able to succesfully go independent. It would be a real shocker to see them leave alltogether, I don't think this is the case.

Continuing on. The way the shows were run. With overtime and irregular working hours for the staff. Or if there was still a place for it looking forward to the 2012 season.

Now for the basket I will be putting my eggs in. The MLG - GOM situation is also hurting MLG. It seems like it's unfeasible for MLG to step up as MLG and inquery GOM properly. Or they are bound to this because of other reasons.
Having independent journalism would allow those instances to go out, pressure and figure out things. For many reasons this would be really good and the current 'demeaner' of the inside man getting cast out is not entirely valid. In ways it is but even without extending the following to valuable people on the "inside". being independent means you can take any hit or backlash regarding what you have to publish since you aren't connected. Taking one for the scene if you will. I actually believe this is still a worthy thing to think about and potentially act on regardless of ones position.
Like we see in politics where governments don't officially support certain parties but still support them because they are incredibly beneficial and do those the government needs to get done but otherwise cannot freely do this in the public eye.
I think but more so really hope that applies to this case.

Fuck slasher especially is a giant loss. Ohya almost forgot. The overlap and expansion of onemoregame.tv. With djWHEAT at twitch.tv and by now having transitioned over properly from his old job and able to have some rest and spent needed time with his family. We will have to see something become active from that and have them expand it. Around this time last year is when the djWHEAT.tv website with it's shows Weapon of Choice and LiveOnThree went on a x week/y month hiatius to come back as onemoregame.tv but they haven't been able to get broadcasters from other communities directly involved and producing shows under the onemoregame banner. Maybe that is a new home.
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
December 19 2011 21:07 GMT
#134
The fact that one of their own employees leaked all this info and they haven't made any statement makes them look incompetent.
dragoon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States695 Posts
December 19 2011 21:07 GMT
#135
i dont really care as long as i get my state of the game!

but its sad for the people that watch them, which i assume is quite the large crowd
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DigitalD[562]
Profile Joined April 2010
United States80 Posts
December 19 2011 21:08 GMT
#136
This is almost like GGL all over again. :/ Great shows just don't have a chance if they can't get sponsorship or advertising dollars.
Dexx
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany175 Posts
December 19 2011 21:09 GMT
#137
Fuck Slasher was a nice show. I watched it sometimes. He covered more thant just SC2 and was a good and independent voice
WightyCity
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada887 Posts
December 19 2011 21:09 GMT
#138
this is unexpected. but if theres not enough people watching...
90% watching it 8% talking about it and 2% playing it - sc2
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
December 19 2011 21:10 GMT
#139
I can understand that they are cancelling the shows from there end but couldn't JP and Chobopeon just do the show on their own like they used to? Same goes for SOTG the show existed just fine without MLG and would continue to into the future either way. Suck to see the support these shows get cut off.
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Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
December 19 2011 21:11 GMT
#140
Kind of saw something like this coming when Sundance, when he was on that vvv show, let on that he wasn't even impressed by the number of views on sotg.

2000 live viewers won't cut it in the long run. Sundance was very clear on one point, things must make money nowdays. The time of investing is gone, time to make MLG a working company.
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