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This is Aru
Profile Joined August 2010
United States91 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 09:00:04
December 10 2011 08:59 GMT
#21
For me, it is solely the number of players which makes it a special event, and not a true GSL Championship.

Every other championship has started with 64 or 32 players.
aka Kasaaz
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
December 10 2011 09:04 GMT
#22
On December 10 2011 17:59 This is Aru wrote:
For me, it is solely the number of players which makes it a special event, and not a true GSL Championship.

Every other championship has started with 64 or 32 players.

Or 16...
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
December 10 2011 09:12 GMT
#23
Definitely a special event imo. At 16 players I probably would have called it a true GSL Championship.
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Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
December 10 2011 09:13 GMT
#24
I can't even consider those things MVP or Polt won, so i sure as shit wouldn't consider this a GSL.
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 10 2011 09:13 GMT
#25
Even 16 is cutting it close.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 09:18:46
December 10 2011 09:18 GMT
#26
Well, in the end this entire thread is pointless, since it's just worthless speculation. You don't think World Championship or Super Tournament are REEEEAL GSLs? Too bad.

"Should we consider..." It doesn't matter what we consider. There's no point to this topic.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 09:21:09
December 10 2011 09:20 GMT
#27
Super tournament was a real GSL. No one is arguing that. The point is how much emphasis do we put on winning this title?
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
December 10 2011 09:25 GMT
#28
Even the Super Tournament never really counted as a GSL championship. The most prestigious win will ALWAYS be a Code S championship.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 09:34:51
December 10 2011 09:29 GMT
#29
On December 10 2011 18:20 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Super tournament was a real GSL. No one is arguing that. The point is how much emphasis do we put on winning this title?

GSL Championship is a GSL Championship.

You don't dispute WWE Championship wins, whether they won it by cashing in money in the bank, in a triple threat match or by beating the champion fair and square. Point is, they're a champion, and they're no less of a champion than anyone else who has held the title.

Like, can you imagine how ridiculous it would be for wrestling fans to say "NAH HE'S NOT A REAL CHAMPION, HE DOESN'T COUNT."

Arena of Legends is like equivalent to holding the Cruiserweight Championship. They're a champion, but not a big one. MLG, DreamHack and IPL would be the United States and Intercontinental Championships, GSTL would be Tag Team Championship and finally, all GSL events would be WWE/World Heavyweight Championship.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Hydroxyl
Profile Joined December 2011
206 Posts
December 10 2011 09:30 GMT
#30
On December 10 2011 17:45 Caesarion wrote:
Voted Special Event almost immediately. My perception of the GSL Championships are that they are something you have to go through the harsh qualification stages in order to enter. Where you are competing against hundreds of the best players in the world.

The Blizzard Cup feels more like an invitational event to the winners of other major tournaments.

By that standards though, the WC shouldn't stand as a GSL championship and the ST would. Oh well.


Technically Blizzard Cup had qualifiers, and exactly what you would call "harsh qualifiers", as they annonced at the start of the cup the list of tournaments someone had to win to be in: those aren't invited they qualified through those tournaments wins, whose player pool and run is as hard or harder than an upside-down.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 10 2011 09:31 GMT
#31
On December 10 2011 18:29 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 18:20 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Super tournament was a real GSL. No one is arguing that. The point is how much emphasis do we put on winning this title?

GSL Championship is a GSL Championship.

You don't dispute WWE Championship wins, whether they won it by cashing in money in the bank, in a triple threat match or by beating the champion fair and square. Point is, they're a champion, and they're no less of a champion than anyone else who has held the title.

Lol why did you have to use WWE as an analogy of all things.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
December 10 2011 09:34 GMT
#32
On December 10 2011 18:31 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 18:29 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:20 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Super tournament was a real GSL. No one is arguing that. The point is how much emphasis do we put on winning this title?

GSL Championship is a GSL Championship.

You don't dispute WWE Championship wins, whether they won it by cashing in money in the bank, in a triple threat match or by beating the champion fair and square. Point is, they're a champion, and they're no less of a champion than anyone else who has held the title.

Lol why did you have to use WWE as an analogy of all things.

Why not? Did it get the point across or not?

Money in the bank is beating the shit out of a bloody and bruised champion, by the way.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 10 2011 09:34 GMT
#33
On December 10 2011 18:34 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 18:31 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:29 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:20 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Super tournament was a real GSL. No one is arguing that. The point is how much emphasis do we put on winning this title?

GSL Championship is a GSL Championship.

You don't dispute WWE Championship wins, whether they won it by cashing in money in the bank, in a triple threat match or by beating the champion fair and square. Point is, they're a champion, and they're no less of a champion than anyone else who has held the title.

Lol why did you have to use WWE as an analogy of all things.

Why not? Did it get the point across or not?

Money in the bank is beating the shit out of a bloody and bruised champion, by the way.

+ Show Spoiler +
it's not real
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
December 10 2011 09:35 GMT
#34
On December 10 2011 18:34 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 18:34 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:31 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:29 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On December 10 2011 18:20 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Super tournament was a real GSL. No one is arguing that. The point is how much emphasis do we put on winning this title?

GSL Championship is a GSL Championship.

You don't dispute WWE Championship wins, whether they won it by cashing in money in the bank, in a triple threat match or by beating the champion fair and square. Point is, they're a champion, and they're no less of a champion than anyone else who has held the title.

Lol why did you have to use WWE as an analogy of all things.

Why not? Did it get the point across or not?

Money in the bank is beating the shit out of a bloody and bruised champion, by the way.

+ Show Spoiler +
it's not real

That's relevant...how?
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 10 2011 09:36 GMT
#35
Are you trolling me right now?
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
December 10 2011 09:36 GMT
#36
On December 10 2011 18:36 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Are you trolling me right now?

Are you?
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
McCane
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France23 Posts
December 10 2011 09:53 GMT
#37
Code S/A will always be the only GSL championship that matters. Every other event feel like special events to me.
I can't be worried about that shit. Life goes on, man.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
December 10 2011 11:14 GMT
#38
Its the mother of all special events. A big achievement to win it (like almost any tournament) buy a level down from a GSL title.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
December 10 2011 11:18 GMT
#39
I consider blizzard cup the ultimate tournament. Its champions vs champions like Champions league in football. Just to haved qualified to this tournament meant you had todo somethign special.

really nice way to end the year..

10 world class players that can beat and lose to everyone gonna be awesome. Only problem I have with it is it bo1 in the group stage.
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
December 10 2011 11:20 GMT
#40
On December 10 2011 17:45 Caesarion wrote:
Voted Special Event almost immediately. My perception of the GSL Championships are that they are something you have to go through the harsh qualification stages in order to enter. Where you are competing against hundreds of the best players in the world.

The Blizzard Cup feels more like an invitational event to the winners of other major tournaments.

By that standards though, the WC shouldn't stand as a GSL championship and the ST would. Oh well.


What you have to win a major tournament to qualify if thats not the hardest thing todo to qualify I dont know what is
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