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KloWnZ
Profile Joined April 2010
United States16 Posts
December 12 2011 20:20 GMT
#1721
im going to bring in the bodybuilding.com misc forum to seal this deal. they never fail to win these types of things. prepare for a big boost in votes
chaynesore
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia175 Posts
December 12 2011 20:20 GMT
#1722
On December 13 2011 05:18 AndyGB4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 05:16 procyonlotor wrote:
I don't think they can catch up. They need around 4k per hour until the very end to beat us.

Well the problem is they're getting those numbers. It's gonna be close, but we need something big to give us one last surge til the end!

We gotta call down some MULES! we need more minerals!

We need day9 to go live and make a special announcement or something :S
"When things get weird, I'm in my element." - Liquid`TLO
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 20:23:12
December 12 2011 20:20 GMT
#1723
On December 13 2011 05:15 MBH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 05:11 Ryalnos wrote:
This voting competition just feels so dirty.

It may well be that someone supporting her is botting hard, but you can find accusations/complaints to that effect interspersed (sometimes in the same post) with comments about how a given user is going to go home and get to work voting (presumably many times via proxies or something).


But bro, it is one thing to abuse some firefox addon to vote for her 5-10 times in one hour or having a programmed bot giving you 50 votes a second...


I wouldn't disagree that what her supporter(s) are doing is worse, but at the same time we're not innocent either (and it wouldn't be hard for anyone who wanted to know to figure that out).

We almost certainly have a much larger community that should stomp something like this, but it's still dirty.

On December 13 2011 05:14 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 05:11 Ryalnos wrote:
This voting competition just feels so dirty.

It may well be that someone supporting her is botting hard, but you can find accusations/complaints to that effect interspersed (sometimes in the same post) with comments about how a given user is going to go home and get to work voting (presumably many times via proxies or something).


It got dirty when we found out she was botting, it was either give up or take extreme measures.


People were voting multiple times earlier in the thread before the botting was clear. Once Glider fell behind in any way, however, people's stances seemed to change... It's too bad if inevitable with this kind of thing.
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
December 12 2011 20:22 GMT
#1724
for the record, her entry video embedded on the contest page has 33,389 views and was uploaded dec 2010 while TPA has 131,424 views and was uploaded july 2011. this is quite an alarming discrepancy between the view counts and the votes in her case. either people are blindly voting for her without watching her videos, or they're going out of their way to view older submissions on her channel without viewing the front page contest entry (doesn't make much sense) or something else is happening behind the scenes.
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
December 12 2011 20:22 GMT
#1725
On December 13 2011 05:20 KloWnZ wrote:
im going to bring in the bodybuilding.com misc forum to seal this deal. they never fail to win these types of things. prepare for a big boost in votes

Do it!
Loooui
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden348 Posts
December 12 2011 20:22 GMT
#1726
She is getting many more votes per minute right now than theportraitart.

I made a little test, clocked one minute, and clicked refresh every 5 seconds and counted their votes and could see that she filled up 100 new votes about 3 times as quick as theportraitart.

If she continues with that pace she will overrun us!
TMOUllrich
Profile Joined February 2011
England59 Posts
December 12 2011 20:22 GMT
#1727
On December 13 2011 05:17 TheSilverfox wrote:
So basically we are in a lead with 16 800 votes. If it stays the same in growth for the opponent we need to get 135 000 votes to be "safe".


Except that the growth of JenniferESL appears to vary on a number of variables such as #1st place votes, time remaining, #of votes difference between the winning channel, if it's a well programmed bot then it's possible we can't actually win ! We must not lose faith though, for Aiur !
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3353 Posts
December 12 2011 20:22 GMT
#1728
I've been watching the votes and writing down the gains at various random times: The gains between the 2 numbers are in the brackets. Glider was gaining pretty fast but not ESL rate of gain is more then Gliders

[ESL] 72744 - 73267 (+523) 73945 (+678) 80031 (+6086) 84314 +(4283) 87551 (+3237) 90334 (+2783)
[Glider] 87582 - 88535 (+953) 89685 (+1150) 97853 (+8168) 101938 (+4085) 104522 (+2584) 107034 (+2512)
김택용 Fighting!
Waah
Profile Joined February 2011
United States120 Posts
December 12 2011 20:23 GMT
#1729
On December 13 2011 05:15 MBH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 05:11 Ryalnos wrote:
This voting competition just feels so dirty.

It may well be that someone supporting her is botting hard, but you can find accusations/complaints to that effect interspersed (sometimes in the same post) with comments about how a given user is going to go home and get to work voting (presumably many times via proxies or something).


But bro, it is one thing to abuse some firefox addon to vote for her 5-10 times in one hour or having a programmed bot giving you 50 votes a second...

Regardless of the magnitude, both count as "dirty" methods to win a competition.

Of course I hope Glider wins, but if he doesn't and the competition is found out to have won by cheating, at least she won't be allowed to ruin someone else's chance at youtube publicity in the future.

Yes, I am quite convinced that there are tons of non-legitimate votes in the poll on her end. However, I'd be more disappointed knowing the fact that a human being would pretend to be innocent to this extent for selfish gains, not because she won.
TheSilverfox
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1928 Posts
December 12 2011 20:23 GMT
#1730
On December 13 2011 05:19 vilg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 05:17 TheSilverfox wrote:
The opponent just got 9 700 votes within an hour. If this goes on it will be around 125-130000 votes as a total.

So basically we are in a lead with 16 800 votes. If it stays the same in growth for the opponent we need to get 135 000 votes to be "safe".


it's quite likely her bot adjusts the rate of which it sends the votes, ie. it's not really possible to win for us unless we get a huge timing attack in right before polls close.


So you're basically saying that we need White-Ra taking his "special tactics" win with a timing attack?
Also known as Joinsimon on Twitter/Reddit
chaynesore
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia175 Posts
December 12 2011 20:24 GMT
#1731
On December 13 2011 05:20 Ryalnos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 05:15 MBH wrote:
On December 13 2011 05:11 Ryalnos wrote:
This voting competition just feels so dirty.

It may well be that someone supporting her is botting hard, but you can find accusations/complaints to that effect interspersed (sometimes in the same post) with comments about how a given user is going to go home and get to work voting (presumably many times via proxies or something).


But bro, it is one thing to abuse some firefox addon to vote for her 5-10 times in one hour or having a programmed bot giving you 50 votes a second...


I wouldn't disagree that what her supporter(s) are doing is worse, but at the same time we're not innocent either (and it wouldn't be hard for anyone who wanted to know to figure that out).

We almost certainly have a much larger community that should stomp something like this, but it's still dirty.

We havea ridiculous amount of documented evidence of genuine support though.. This thread is huge, then there's the youtube vids and all the tweets and reddit postings. She has nothing. Should be no problem.

I'm starting to get more and more concerned about what we'll do if Glider loses though. Although I don't want to fall back onto this ridiculous phrase - we really cannot afford to have the entire sc2 community kick up a big shitstorm over this (which I think will happen), because we will be "hurting esports" :\
"When things get weird, I'm in my element." - Liquid`TLO
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
December 12 2011 20:24 GMT
#1732
At this rate we are definitely going to lose
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
December 12 2011 20:24 GMT
#1733
Her Bot is kicking it up a gear about 1k votes in ~5mins
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
December 12 2011 20:24 GMT
#1734
Shes gained about 2k vote since I've started watching this thread 20 minutes ago -.-. the fuck.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
December 12 2011 20:24 GMT
#1735
Like I said somewhere in the beginning of this thread, YT just skewing numbers for page hits!
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
December 12 2011 20:24 GMT
#1736
On December 13 2011 05:22 JoeSchmoe wrote:
for the record, her entry video embedded on the contest page has 33,389 views and was uploaded dec 2010 while TPA has 131,424 views and was uploaded july 2011. this is quite an alarming discrepancy between the view counts and the votes in her case. either people are blindly voting for her without watching her videos, or they're going out of their way to view older submissions on her channel without viewing the front page contest entry (doesn't make much sense) or something else is happening behind the scenes.


Multiple people have pointed out that her video has so few viewers. But I don't think anybody pointed out that it's actually a YEAR OLD with that many views...wtf that's even more ridiculous. I didn't even realize until now.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
jdobrev
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Bulgaria162 Posts
December 12 2011 20:25 GMT
#1737
50 votes per 10 sec, 300 votes per min, x5 hours (300minutes) means she'd get 90k more votes for 5 hours if she keeps this pace up.
just to give you an idea of how it might not be over at all
MBH
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland796 Posts
December 12 2011 20:25 GMT
#1738
I can't even watch her videos cuz they are blocked in Germany, where I am currently...
ribboo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1842 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 20:26:49
December 12 2011 20:26 GMT
#1739
Look at the comments on their pages. While she has received one comment during the last hour, Glider has received somewhere around 60-70 comments. It really looks like she will win this. It'll be up to Youtube to do the right thing in the end.
MadChem
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany218 Posts
December 12 2011 20:26 GMT
#1740
http://trimen.info/ver-videos/?query= jenniferesl&page=1

and

http://www.indiaeveryday.in/video/jenniferesl.htm?s=published

I found those two just by search support JenniferESL

The second one is scary to me, since India is a big as country. Can anyone tell me how to check numbers of an homepage?



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