HOUSTON, Texas — December 2, 2011 — Today, Quantic Gaming regretfully announces the dissolution of our partnership with the South Korean StarCraft II team, Incredible Miracle.
The Quantic Incredible Miracle partnership, established on October 21st this year, made Quantic the official representative organization for Incredible Miracle internationally. Through the partnership, Incredible Miracle players attended two foreign events – Blizzcon 2011, and MLG Providence 2011.
Despite the end of this partnership, no hard feelings or ill-will exist between Quantic and Incredible Miracle. It should be emphasized that the decision to dissolve the partnership was made jointly between both organizations, and is being announced formally this quickly out of a genuine sense of obligation and appreciation for the outstanding support shown by our fans and friends.
Kang Dong-hoon, Incredible Miracle’s coach and manager, had this to say in regards to the end of the partnership:
"I am deeply sorry – to all the QIM fans who have supported us – for having to announce the end of this partnership. I really hope that in the future Quantic will become the best international eSports team. We will both seek to maintain a good relationship and I hope to stay friends in the future. I highly appreciate Mark and our friends at Quantic for their kind support, understanding and sincere cordiality."
Quantic Founder & CEO, Mark Ferraz, made the following statement regarding this monumental, yet unfortunately short-lived alliance:
“I regret that our time together was short; both of us were sincere when we initially expressed our desire for a deep & lengthy partnership. I am glad, however, that the time our teams had together was enjoyable and productive - especially the QIM Fan Event we held at Providence. Together, we will complete our immediate participatory competition obligations that remain, as well as continue to support one another into the future through friendship.”
Quantic wishes Mr. Kang and Incredible Miracle all the best in their future endeavors in Korea and beyond. Despite the conclusion of the partnership, Quantic’s StarCraft II roster remains unaffected. Both Quantic and Incredible Miracle are looking forward to a bright and successful future, even if we are unable to share that future together.
Oh wow, I did not see this news coming at all....this is very sad. I was hoping SaSe would become IM's star Protoss along with MVP and NesTea for their respective races.
Best of luck to both teams in the future though! Will SaSe still stay at the IM house in Korea, or will he go back to the GOM house?
Wow even Kim Kardashian's marriage lasted longer than Quantic-IM. I wonder what caused the split. At least both sides were professional about it so as not to cause a shitstorm on the forums.
Well that sucks. I wanted to see MVP, Nestea and them at more foreign events. Now that's in serious doubt. I really wonder why they split. Times like these is when I wish there were no fluff reporters around like Kennigit has suggested so we get the real story instead of the nice PR, we decided to part, but we'll still be BFFs for life, don't worry, blah blah blah.
Is SaSe still gonna be able to stay at the IM house? I think that the IM partnership was at least partly the reason he joined so this is kinda shitting him over if he can't imo. And why did they split? Some internal disagreements or did IM find some one "better"? Really curious:O
Sadly I've always felt this relationship was a bit one-sided where IM is this really hot supermodel girlfriend and quantic is just average joe. I feel bad for Destiny most of all people, as he said he only joined Quantic when they promised a partnership with IM.
On December 03 2011 04:38 red4ce wrote: Wow even Kim Kardashian's marriage lasted longer than Quantic-IM. I wonder what caused the split. At least both sides were professional about it so as not to cause a shitstorm on the forums.
On December 03 2011 04:38 red4ce wrote: Wow even Kim Kardashian's marriage lasted longer than Quantic-IM. I wonder what caused the split. At least both sides were professional about it so as not to cause a shitstorm on the forums.
That was literally my post, word for word. But I guess it was too obvious. Well played, red4ce, well played.
On December 03 2011 04:38 red4ce wrote: Wow even Kim Kardashian's marriage lasted longer than Quantic-IM. I wonder what caused the split. At least both sides were professional about it so as not to cause a shitstorm on the forums.
Very unfortunate, almost seems shady considering i doubt destiny or SaSe would have signed to quantic without this partnership, I hope quantic has something else lined up for them in korea (sase especially).
On December 03 2011 04:38 red4ce wrote: Wow even Kim Kardashian's marriage lasted longer than Quantic-IM. I wonder what caused the split. At least both sides were professional about it so as not to cause a shitstorm on the forums.
That was literally my post, word for word. But I guess it was too obvious. Well played, red4ce, well played.
Wow, completely unexpected... It was a pretty awesome partnership imo.
On December 03 2011 04:41 CryMeAReaper wrote: Is SaSe still gonna be able to stay at the IM house? I think that the IM partnership was at least partly the reason he joined so this is kinda shitting him over if he can't imo. And why did they split? Some internal disagreements or did IM find some one "better"? Really curious:O
This is also the first thing i thought of... what happens with Sase. He's one of my favorite players, i really hope he can stay at a Korean team house.
Well shit this is terrible news. During the torrent of announcements with players joining different teams and various partnerships being formed, this was the one I was most stoked about. Sad, but also a little funny considering that introductory interview with that hilarious quantic translator xD
On December 03 2011 04:38 red4ce wrote: Wow even Kim Kardashian's marriage lasted longer than Quantic-IM. I wonder what caused the split. At least both sides were professional about it so as not to cause a shitstorm on the forums.
Oh my. Golden right here, LOL! I also wonder what caused the split-up. Shame though..
It could be that one team wanted both team mergered into one (Archon) with all the consequences that would have to finances, sponsors, tournament line-ups and so on and the other team wanted to keep it at the current level.
It could be that status quo was unacceptable to one or both parties and they couldn't find a shared vision of the future.
I hope Sase will be able to get good practice in Korea despite this. Best of luck to him, to IM and to QxG.
On December 03 2011 04:38 red4ce wrote: Wow even Kim Kardashian's marriage lasted longer than Quantic-IM. I wonder what caused the split. At least both sides were professional about it so as not to cause a shitstorm on the forums.
Oh my. Golden right here, LOL! I also wonder what caused the split-up. Shame though..
Really interested in what caused this... hopefully we can get some more info ...
Does the quality of the players on QXC really matter, when they are mostly just paying for IM players to travel and compete internationally (something KR teams don't seem to have the cash for)...
I don't know, but then I also don't know why there isn't more merch for KR sc2 teams and all the like ... oh well.
I was really looking forward to seeing MVP and Nestea and other IM players at more events, if thats not happening it's a big hit for the scene, I mean they are the 2 most succesful SC2 players to date.
On December 03 2011 04:47 Dodgin wrote: So is SaSe going to be stuck in the gom house forever now?
Poor SaSe. I've heard alot of... Stories... About the GOM house.
I keep hearing this. Please post some because everyone just says they've heard "stories." The people need to know. I know naniwa called it the caster's house and sase said he wished he could take sound proof headphones home with him to use in the gom house all day.
On December 03 2011 04:55 TensaiSakuragi wrote: Looks lile Mvp and NesTea decided to never attend any foreign tournaments again due to their poor results in foreign competitions.
First and second at blizzcon is pretty poor results.
On December 03 2011 04:38 red4ce wrote: Wow even Kim Kardashian's marriage lasted longer than Quantic-IM.
man that got me laughing :D.
Back on topic, it's such a shame to see such a potentially great partership ended so early. I am also interested in what happened that could have caused this.
On December 03 2011 04:55 TensaiSakuragi wrote: Looks lile Mvp and NesTea decided to never attend any foreign tournaments again due to their poor results in foreign competitions.
that doesn't make sense though, lol. because i'm sure they want a chance at every championship they get, and they practice just as much if not more as foreigners.
On December 03 2011 04:55 TensaiSakuragi wrote: Looks lile Mvp and NesTea decided to never attend any foreign tournaments again due to their poor results in foreign competitions.
1st at blizzcon, 1st at Anaheim and 4th at providence are poor results for MVP?
On December 03 2011 04:55 TensaiSakuragi wrote: Looks lile Mvp and NesTea decided to never attend any foreign tournaments again due to their poor results in foreign competitions.
1st at blizzcon, 1st at Anaheim and 4th at providence are poor results for MVP?
For Mvp anything other than first in an dominating fashion is a poor result! The man is THAT good Sad news, I hope that SaSe will be able to play in good conditions
Wow that sucks. I have a feeling it was money related as I can only imagine how much it costed to bring 2 koreans to the states for MLG then back and they aren't gaining much from it.
On December 03 2011 04:55 TensaiSakuragi wrote: Looks lile Mvp and NesTea decided to never attend any foreign tournaments again due to their poor results in foreign competitions.
1st at blizzcon, 1st at Anaheim and 4th at providence are poor results for MVP?
haha thats what i was gonna say.
really sad about this though. Can we get a reason why? I mean this seems so out of the blue. What happens with Sase? And Destiny? We need some more info please.
So. Sase joined Quantic, most likely for the amazing opportunity to practice at the IM-house, and he gotta feel darn cheated now. I really, as a fellow swede, feel sad for him and to be quite frank. What. The. Fuck. What can possibly occur during the first month of cooperation that couldn't have been thought about on beforehand. Seriously, it just looks really bad for both of the clans..
On December 03 2011 04:55 TensaiSakuragi wrote: Looks lile Mvp and NesTea decided to never attend any foreign tournaments again due to their poor results in foreign competitions.
First and second at blizzcon is pretty poor results.
4'th at MLG is nice to considering he has RSI and had to play a marathon of games.
Oh well, shame about your partnership hope you find some other way to send players to korea
On December 03 2011 04:55 TensaiSakuragi wrote: Looks lile Mvp and NesTea decided to never attend any foreign tournaments again due to their poor results in foreign competitions.
1st at blizzcon, 1st at Anaheim and 4th at providence are poor results for MVP?
On December 03 2011 04:55 TensaiSakuragi wrote: Looks lile Mvp and NesTea decided to never attend any foreign tournaments again due to their poor results in foreign competitions.
1st at blizzcon, 1st at Anaheim and 4th at providence are poor results for MVP?
This is horrible. Dreadful player, waster of money sending him... Nah seriously, people 'tend'/always blow shit out of proportion. Shame about this but let's hope Sase will be able to stay with IM.
Honestly I can't say I'm surprised. I didn't really expect IM (the hottest team in the world for a while now) to stay partnered with a team unless there was a lot of money involved. I mean as it is, IM already has the 2 best players in the world, plus losira and other very strong players, and they already have pretty good sponsors as far as I know, so there really isn't that much they need. And Quantic being a fairly new team, it's understandable that they wouldn't have the heaps of money to throw at IM.
Making a public statement without actually saying anything or releasing some sort of information seems to become a bad habit... I guess we need some esports journalists to investigate or something.
Oh and poor Sase. I hope he can stay at the IM house to practise T.T
QG and IM seemed like an incredibly strange partnership from the get-go. Whereas with EG and SlayerS, it feels like this East meets West megazord forming, QIM seemed to be an incongruent puzzle that, if completed, only SaSe would truly benefit from.
I think this is a good choice. IM seemed to be doing just fine with sending their players to foreign events before the partnership. I'm assuming they're in a viable if not favorable financial position now too considering this dissolution.
quantic didn't seem like a team that had potential to be champions or even have motivation to, atleast compared to IM so i didn't really see it as a good fit from the beginning
maybe after those 2 events IM decided they don't like the international travel, nestea was visibly upset for a few reasons and perhaps they just don't like the travel to a weekend tournament in unfavorable conditions compared to their gsl games.
Well this is unfortunate, I hope that QxG finds another korean team to partner with, and I hope we continue to see NesTea and MVP in foreign tournaments, god bless all and I wonder what will happen with destiny and sase now... hopefully everything works out. o.o
On December 03 2011 05:02 JayJay_90 wrote: Making a public statement without actually saying anything or releasing some sort of information seems to become a bad habit... I guess we need some esports journalists to investigate or something.
Oh and poor Sase. I hope he can stay at the IM house to practise T.T
Agreed. We are not asking for the inner-workings of team management here, but at least give us some reason even if it is general or vague (financial reason, different goals, etc..). This press release says nothing.
I'd never seen this interview before (http://tv.majorleaguegaming.com/videos/78346-blizzcon-2011-quantic-gaming-and-incredible-miracle-partnership) but after watching it it makes me really sad to see the partnership has ended so soon, considering their lofty future goals.
It would be nice to receive a bit of transparency about the situation sooner rather than later.
Damn that sucks. Destiny finally found a good team, and cited the IM partnership as a major reason for him signing. I wonder if he'll be inclined to stick around, I think he's got a easy legal way out if he wants it.
On December 03 2011 04:38 red4ce wrote: Wow even Kim Kardashian's marriage lasted longer than Quantic-IM. I wonder what caused the split. At least both sides were professional about it so as not to cause a shitstorm on the forums.
Got me with that one haha. I wonder why it was so short :/
@Slasher Rod Breslau Destiny heads to Korea. Quantic Gaming Owner Mark Ferraz will be on !@#$ Slasher tonight to discuss everything. Waiting on comment from IM.
Things should get cleared up soon, which is nice to hear.
On December 03 2011 05:12 milesfacade wrote: @Slasher Rod Breslau Destiny heads to Korea. Quantic Gaming Owner Mark Ferraz will be on !@#$ Slasher tonight to discuss everything. Waiting on comment from IM.
Things should get cleared up soon, which is nice to hear.
Things rarely get cleared up. If they put out a press release with so little substance, it's unlikely we'll get that much more out of Slasher's show. We'll get more than this, but not a lot more unless Slasher decides to go all David Frost on Ferraz.
On December 03 2011 05:16 Executor1 wrote: Sase kind of got screwed, im pretty sure he joined QXG under the impression he was going to get a practice house with IM.
This leaves him in a pretty bad situation with him being in korea ><
I think the same would go for SaSe legally as I mentioned about Destiny, the circumstances are changed now, and the spirit of the contract has been blown apart.
On December 03 2011 04:55 TensaiSakuragi wrote: Looks lile Mvp and NesTea decided to never attend any foreign tournaments again due to their poor results in foreign competitions.
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Anyway yeah that was fast blah blah obviously there's a story behind this blah blah I'm sure it will come out soon enough someone tell me when that happens.
I hate statements like this. Bad news with several paragraphs of text that, summarized, contain absolutely no information about what happened. Just people patting each others' backs and being polite. Where's the dirt, sirs and madams?
Wow I feel really bad for Sase, that was one of the main reasons for him joining Quantic and now the partnership ends in less than 2 months. I really hope they can work out something out for him, he has so much potential and training with IM is definitely the best environment. =(
On December 03 2011 05:18 iNcontroL wrote: Quantic: It's not you it's me. IM: Oh. Can we still be friends? Quantic: Yeah it's np.. I'm just going to date your sister StarTale. IM: Oh ok.
LOL. However,I do think that Korean teams are still the males in the sexual relationship analogy at this time in SC2's history.
On December 03 2011 05:03 Kubricks wrote: QG and IM seemed like an incredibly strange partnership from the get-go. Whereas with EG and SlayerS, it feels like this East meets West megazord forming, QIM seemed to be an incongruent puzzle that, if completed, only SaSe would truly benefit from.
I think this is a good choice. IM seemed to be doing just fine with sending their players to foreign events before the partnership. I'm assuming they're in a viable if not favorable financial position now too considering this dissolution.
Eg and slayers really isnt a partnership of any form though, its a practice contract for a few of their players, Incontrol already said that because of the limited room at the slayers house its not like the whole team could go over there and practice , its really just to the benifit of Huk , Idra and puma.
I guess you could call it a practice partnership./
Thats what I was worried when SaSe joined Quantic, what will happen to him now? Hes one of few foreigns that got potential to beat best koreans and now what he wont be practicing in korea? How long contract he got with Quantic? Can he switch teams?
I guess a statement is better than not a statement but it's a bit annoying that they didn't even try touching the reason as to why it happened. At least give us a hint.
On December 03 2011 05:18 iNcontroL wrote: Quantic: It's not you it's me. IM: Oh. Can we still be friends? Quantic: Yeah it's np.. I'm just going to date your sister StarTale. IM: Oh ok.
LOL. However,I do think that Korean teams are still the males in the sexual relationship analogy at this time in SC2's history.
Why? They are what everybody wants.. they are clearly female.
Maybe the foreign trips were dissapointing for the Koreans and they no longer want to send MVP/Nestea but send lesser players? Quantic disagrees but IM refuses to send the big guns thus creating a problem.
On December 03 2011 05:18 iNcontroL wrote: Quantic: It's not you it's me. IM: Oh. Can we still be friends? Quantic: Yeah it's np.. I'm just going to date your sister StarTale. IM: Oh ok.
LOL. However,I do think that Korean teams are still the males in the sexual relationship analogy at this time in SC2's history.
the foreign teams are the male teams cuz they pay for the korean teams international travel
Probably just enough regional problems and money issues. Still two great organizations that seem to have respect for each other. Good luck to both teams
That relationship was short, which is sad and I must say I'm slightly confused over the fact that we got to know no reason for the disengagement at all. :O
Quantic Gaming Owner Mark Ferraz will appear tonight on !@#$ Slasher (same time as NASL unfortunately) to discuss the Quantic/IM partnership, and sending Destiny to Korea. Starts at 5:30 PM EST/23:30 CET at http://www.MLG.tv.
On December 03 2011 05:46 Xcobidoo wrote: So IM got paid travels to MLG and Quantic got....?
The funny thing is I believe quantic probably only had to pay for Losira to fly to MLG. Blizzard paid for MVP and Nestea for blizzcon. MLG paid for MVP and Nestea at providence due to them qualifying in the MLG global invitational.
On December 03 2011 05:46 Xcobidoo wrote: So IM got paid travels to MLG and Quantic got....?
The funny thing is I believe quantic probably only had to pay for Losira to fly to MLG. Blizzard paid for MVP and Nestea for blizzcon. MLG paid for MVP and Nestea at providence due to them qualifying in the MLG global invitational.
Ah. Still, I don't see anything that Quantic got out of this. They should have waited to get some more top players tbh...
I totally don't understand how you can write such an OP that is trying to look super professional with statements from everybody and everything and then not include a single sentence about the actual reason for the end of the partnership. The whole OP doesn't really say anything at all, apart from the fact that the partnership has ended. Shouldn't it be clear that people will want to know more? They could keep the drama lower by simply announcing the reasons right away.
On December 03 2011 05:50 PepperoniPiZZa wrote: I heard that hundreds of IM fans complained about IMs partnership with qxg because of destinys tendencies for racism, so, I guess it's understandable.
And you don't think that Destiny would have been the one they let go if that was the main reason behind it?
Empty statement with no real information (as per usual).
Assuming the decision to end the partnership was financial in nature, I don't understand why the partnership was formed in the first place. Did they not realize the cost of flying one or two players out for every major event? That seems like the absolute minimum in terms of cost planning.
This just looks silly for both teams in my opinion. A 1.5 month "partnership" full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. Bleh.
On December 03 2011 05:18 iNcontroL wrote: Quantic: It's not you it's me. IM: Oh. Can we still be friends? Quantic: Yeah it's np.. I'm just going to date your sister StarTale. IM: Oh ok.
So, mutually parting ways good and fine, but what the hell was the reason why they part ways? The players of IM did a great job at representing QG outside of Korea, so that couldn't be it.
On December 03 2011 06:09 JustPassingBy wrote: So, mutually parting ways good and fine, but what the hell was the reason why they part ways? The players of IM did a great job at representing QG outside of Korea, so that couldn't be it.
I was thinking the exact same thing. They had a reason to form the partnership and now they stop and don't state why?
I am deeply saddened now by the thought that this means less Losira at international tournaments. I seriously hope IM gets partenered with another foriegn team, I need more Nestea, losira, Happy, MVP, hell I'd like to see some of the lesser known Im players get a chance to travel and show off thier skills.
On December 03 2011 06:09 JustPassingBy wrote: So, mutually parting ways good and fine, but what the hell was the reason why they part ways? The players of IM did a great job at representing QG outside of Korea, so that couldn't be it.
I was thinking the exact same thing. They had a reason to form the partnership and now they stop and don't state why?
Just wanted to add, that QG also flew some (okay, only one: Losira) IM player out to foreign events as they promised. SaSe was also allpwed to train in IM's house. It seemed that everything was working out so smoothly on both sides!
tough break but i had a feeling of this happening since i dont think quantic is really big enough to really make something like this work similar to EG/coL
On December 03 2011 06:29 JiYan wrote: tough break but i had a feeling of this happening since i dont think quantic is really big enough to really make something like this work similar to EG/coL
Stupid to talk like that because we don't even know the reasons why this split up happened. We need to get the details in order to judge.
[QUOTE]On December 03 2011 06:22 JustPassingBy wrote: [QUOTE]On December 03 2011 06:12 Split. wrote: [QUOTE]On December 03 2011 06:09 JustPassingBy wrote: So, mutually parting ways good and fine, but what the hell was the reason why they part ways? The players of IM did a great job at representing QG outside of Korea, so that couldn't be it.[/QUOTE] I was thinking the exact same thing. They had a reason to form the partnership and now they stop and don't state why?[/QUOTE]
Just wanted to add, that QG also flew some (okay, only one: Losira) IM player out to foreign events as they promised. SaSe was also allpwed to train in IM's house. It seemed that everything was working out so smoothly on both sides
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