On November 29 2011 11:48 BlueBoxSC wrote: I don't think that spending hundreds of thousands on that house (Yeah, AZ is that expensive) was worth it. Then again, we don't know the money.
They are renting.
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mikkeld
27 Posts
On November 29 2011 11:48 BlueBoxSC wrote: I don't think that spending hundreds of thousands on that house (Yeah, AZ is that expensive) was worth it. Then again, we don't know the money. They are renting. | ||
ChiIIgetoutGG
Canada101 Posts
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NipponBanzai
Canada518 Posts
On November 29 2011 12:26 mikkeld wrote: Show nested quote + On November 29 2011 11:48 BlueBoxSC wrote: I don't think that spending hundreds of thousands on that house (Yeah, AZ is that expensive) was worth it. Then again, we don't know the money. They are renting. I don't know why people think arizona is that expensive. I own a summer house in arizona and its bigger than my house in calgary and half as cheap. | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36369 Posts
On November 29 2011 09:26 heyoka wrote: After thought and discussion, I realize that section of the article was far too hasty. I've edited in a note to emphasize this is not the official opinion of TL, and that it is my fault as editor that it went out with a slant too heavy for a news piece. This should have been reviewed more carefully and been given a more fair look at the issue, this kind of cursory glance is certainly far from the kind of quality that I try to uphold when looking at events. Gonna quote this and say that we added some words to clarify the EG part of the article. | ||
Neeh
Norway458 Posts
It's kind of a shame you can't have anything official on TL without it gettin' a huge "TL's team" thoughts sticker on it. | ||
Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
It's rare in other sports for a team to shoulder the responsibility of marketing themselves AND generating content AND being the 'arbiters' of objective discourse. Actually it's less than rare. It doesn't happen. While I can sympathize with EG's/InControl's annoyance, if you imagine that TL is just another sports media site (like ESPN) these kind of op-ed pieces are par for the course. People can and will say worses thing about EG. | ||
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darthfoley
United States8001 Posts
Grow up and stop senseless bashing. this shit has pissed me off even more than the rest of my shitty day. | ||
LeapofFaith
United States446 Posts
On the other hand, I really enjoyed the Leenoctopus and the photos ^^ | ||
FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
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Checkm8
Japan627 Posts
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Kharnage
Australia920 Posts
I mean, 3 months is very early to expect results, especially since EG will be writing the rulebook for non-korean team houses. When they put the thing together I wasn't expecting good results until 2012 at the earliest. The improvement to Idra's mindset has been vastly beneficial which I think(?) can be attributed to the team house. As someone pointed out, where is the coach? Do they need one? How much do they practise against each other vs watch each others play and suggest ways to improve? We actually know very little about how they are running things and what kind of "team" they are. All I really know at this point is that they read a book. I remember Idra commenting that he and demuslim don't play vs each other much since they run into each other in tournaments which seems kind of weird. I would think they would take a "we may run into each other, but lets try and both improve as much as we can and see what happens on the day" approach over a "but we may run into each other and then you'll know my supa gosu strat!" type thing. As for people expecting incontrol to suddenly become gosu, how is that meant to happen? As far as I'm aware axslav is the only other protoss there to work with. Huk is in Korea most of the time, which means incontrol is left to his own devices when looking to improve his play. | ||
yujinx
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Skrillex
Canada48 Posts
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Aristotle7
United States120 Posts
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FirstGear
Australia185 Posts
On November 28 2011 16:39 heyoka wrote: Only Machine and Axslav's results are remotely explainable, with losses to Nestea, dde, Gatored, and Violet. Even with those two players though, losses to Gatored and dde when you live in a team house are hard to justify. Who is GoSu.Gatored? Perform well once, and it could be a fluke, do it twice, and you deserve recognition. At IEM New York, Gatored was able to take out Strelok, DongRaeGu, and oGsTop. At MLG Providence, Gatored took out Axslav and Ganzi, only losing to ViOlet and Leenock, two of the best players at the tournament. The guy is seriously becoming a PvT sniper, with his major tournament wins against Terran including Qxc, Strelok, Top, and now Ganzi. This guy is quickly gaining my attention for his results, and it would be a smart move to pay him more attention in the future. My favourite part. I originally read this thread when it was much smaller and was pretty outraged at the bias in the article. Since then TL has distanced themselves from the opinion and it seems to have calmed down. I still find it hilarious they criticise someone for losing to gatored and in the very next paragraph talk about how amazing gatored it. | ||
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Chill
Calgary25962 Posts
On November 29 2011 12:51 NipponBanzai wrote: Show nested quote + On November 29 2011 12:26 mikkeld wrote: On November 29 2011 11:48 BlueBoxSC wrote: I don't think that spending hundreds of thousands on that house (Yeah, AZ is that expensive) was worth it. Then again, we don't know the money. They are renting. I don't know why people think arizona is that expensive. I own a summer house in arizona and its bigger than my house in calgary and half as cheap. You own a house in Arizona and Calgary? Er... | ||
Let it Raine
Canada1245 Posts
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WhatIsHip
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MVTaylor
United Kingdom2893 Posts
They're the only team outside of Korea with a house so they have no model to work off and are testing it from scratch. If their players and team are happy with it then surely they alone can justify if it is worth it, I think it's important to note that EG make more money than other teams and therefore can afford this expenditure. On top of this it allows them to give PuMa and HuK a place to stay while they are in the states, as an added extra LzGamer doesn't stay in the house and yet you bring his results in to question also? Just.... poor journalism and completely out of place when considered with the theme of the overall article, would anyone have written this after Orlando where EG took 1st, 4th and 7th without having DeMusliM available. Here's their team results, please show me any non Korean team that comes close... http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Evil_Geniuses/Results What if I'd written a piece on DreamHack which half way through the article said "Finally a decent TL result" and went on to say utter crap that since Jinro won MLG Dallas nearly a year ago nobody currently a part of TL has done anything up to their level and multiple players of theirs have fallen off their peaks. Would that get published? It's all very well to put these editor and review notes as hindsight but if you state this is not the place for it, that it should be developed more than one paragraph and shouldn't have been put up in it's current form if it had been reviewed fully then why on earth have you not edited out the entire section? EDIT: I've just gone and read over the last article you wrote (about the previous MLG) and in there you say the "winners" are EG and the "losers" every non-EG north american player. Have some consistency! Unless you fully expect EG to win every event where one of their players show up to you can't truthfully hold the opinions you do in both articles, can you? | ||
Bart
494 Posts
gotta agree that MLG columbus was the best and left me with goosebumps. | ||
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