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Due to Rasowy being forced to stay in inactivitiy we were forced to part our ways. After trying to help and support him to fix his problems for 3 months, there was unfortunately no possible option to get him back into gaming for now again. With a lot of events coming up, we are in need of a 6th player in our roster. Nevertheless, we want to thank Rasowy for his efforts. He is a great player and a great guy. We hope that he can manage to solve his issues soon.
A replacement for the talentspot has been found with a young German. Gabriel "Marine" Segat (formerly known as Heromarine) is a 14 year old Terran talent. After several talks and testgames we have seen a very solid basis of mechanics and gameknowledge. We want to give him the opportunity and time to develop his play within out team and try to get him step by step into pro-gaming. Despite his very young age, Marine has shown us enough reliability as well as motivation to improve.
mouzMarine commented on his join to us:
+ Show Spoiler +"I am very happy to be part of mousesports. It is my first very known team and I hope I can progress and improve with hard practice to show better results in tournaments. I am confident to take this chance. For all who want to follow my progress, I will start my stream within the next weeks. Thank you mousesports and it's sponsors Medion, GeIL, Razer, Intel and Sansibar for this opportunity and shoutout to all my fans at the MyStarcraft community."
Source (German):
http://www.mousesports.com/de/news/10276/
TLPD:
 HeRoMaRinE
Ladderaccount:
http://sc2ranks.com/eu/1056928/HeRoMaRinE
Additionally, who wants to keep track of his play, improvement and efforts, Marine will start with his stream in a few weeks!
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14 years old? and playing for mouz? wow.
gl hf
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Heromarine, what an awesome name. Also calling this kid to be the FOX_baby for SC2.
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All: 5-11 (31.25%)
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what a great oppertunity for you! i hope u make the best out of it, you have some great players who sill show you how to make suprises in the EU scene! gl
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On November 06 2011 05:14 Kernkraft wrote:
All: 5-11 (31.25%)
I dont have big hopes
... you look without thinking right ?
0-2 vs mana 2-1 vs moman ... this is a shame he lost 0-2 vs mana ? RLY ? ..... as a 14 year old talent player ... dude hate such negative posts
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On November 06 2011 05:17 CoR wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 05:14 Kernkraft wrote:
All: 5-11 (31.25%)
I dont have big hopes ... you look without thinking right ? 0-2 vs mana 2-1 vs moman ... this is a shame he lost 0-2 vs mana ? RLY ? ..... as a 14 year old talent player ... dude hate such negative posts
Yeah he is freaking 14. He still has so much time to improve.
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14 years old? Mouz?!
Good luck and have fun!
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On November 06 2011 05:14 Kernkraft wrote:
All: 5-11 (31.25%)
I dont have big hopes
By your logic I guess people like Naniwa were shit, no? After all he was a onebase nub how could he become good?
Don't judge people based on win ratio. Especially not without looking at the players he faced.
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On November 06 2011 05:18 Vapaach wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 05:17 CoR wrote:On November 06 2011 05:14 Kernkraft wrote:
All: 5-11 (31.25%)
I dont have big hopes ... you look without thinking right ? 0-2 vs mana 2-1 vs moman ... this is a shame he lost 0-2 vs mana ? RLY ? ..... as a 14 year old talent player ... dude hate such negative posts Yeah he is freaking 14. He still has so much time to improve.
We all have so much time to improve. No one is dying at 30.
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On November 06 2011 05:14 Kernkraft wrote:
All: 5-11 (31.25%)
I dont have big hopes
u are just jealous or?
watch xlord´s history, he started also so early and he was one of the best german players when he was 16 and he even won series against koreans at his prime times in wc3l.... so pls be positive...
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On November 06 2011 05:14 Kernkraft wrote:
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I dont have big hopes
Neither do I for you in life.
14 y/o in grandmaster, pretty sick.
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On November 06 2011 05:14 Kernkraft wrote:
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I dont have big hopes
Gotta love trolls hes 14 chill
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Interesting, I'm excited for this!
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The younger people join a team the better  a talent needs the best growing enviroment
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Very very in how this goes, such a young player and must have a lot of talent to be picked up by mouz. Best of luck to the kid younger than most of us .
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I love seeing new blood into the scene, gives me hope that this state of the game is progressing!
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Not to take anything away from Rasowy, lomo or Syck but I really hope this talent support pays off a bit more this time. I think it's awesome that you keep doing it and have faith in these young guys.
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On November 06 2011 05:14 Kernkraft wrote:
All: 5-11 (31.25%)
I dont have big hopes
You do know that Michael Jordan, Muhammed Ali or Roger Federer...etc weren't kicking ass from birth right? Jesus.
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oooh. I think he has quite a bit of talent if he can beat MoMan. I wish mouz and HeroMarine the best of luck (:
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14 year old GM, incredible. Gratz to him! I hope he'll do well when the time comes to show results.
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Herzlichen glückwunsch und viel glück
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Wow. This guy is 14 and seriously beat MoMaN? Looks like serious talent to me.
Best of look for your future.
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On November 06 2011 05:14 Kernkraft wrote:
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I dont have big hopes
You must be new to Team Liquid.
It wasn't that long ago people were making japes at Koll, another young German progamer.
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Let's see if he will become the sc2 version of kolll.
I really like the fact that mousesports gives opportunities to young up and coming players.
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On November 06 2011 05:39 MayorITC wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 05:14 Kernkraft wrote:
All: 5-11 (31.25%)
I dont have big hopes You must be new to Team Liquid. It wasn't that long ago people were making japes at Koll, another young German progamer.
I remember that, noone believed he was getting good at the game and just 12months later he was top4 at WCG xD
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I'm 15 and I can tell you right now, it's hard socially to play Starcraft and try to be good. There's so many things to do and choosing Starcraft is the worst option for many.
Good luck to him.
(Is he even allowed to get a salary by the way? xD)
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On November 06 2011 05:40 SabreUK wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 05:39 MayorITC wrote:On November 06 2011 05:14 Kernkraft wrote:
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I dont have big hopes You must be new to Team Liquid. It wasn't that long ago people were making japes at Koll, another young German progamer. I remember that, noone believed he was getting good at the game and just 12months later he was top4 at WCG xD
yes and the he quittet sc2 cause of 6 pool or? :x
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Lucky kid! Hope to see him do well in tournaments soon ^^
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Sweet- teams need to pick up more talent players and support them to develop more players in the long run!
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On November 06 2011 05:48 mrRoflpwn wrote:
Sweet- teams need to pick up more talent players and support them to develop more players in the long run!
yes i really loved that talent thing, take did back in wc3 times... so many good players came out of that.
for the ones who dont know, he was in sk and opened some kind of talent squad which was supported by sk as far as i know. he picked some more unknown young talented players from the german scene and ended up with one of the strongest squads in europe after a couple of month.
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I hope he gets supported the way he needs to, like helping to improve/organise instead of just a name and 50e/month.
This will be very interesting, so gl and hope it works out.
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pretty exciting gl to him
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Mouz roster is kinda small so every player they add is kind of a big deal. Big luck to him, he have room to become a really good player.
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On November 06 2011 05:54 mTwRINE wrote:
I hope he gets supported the way he needs to, like helping to improve/organise instead of just a name and 50e/month.
This will be very interesting, so gl and hope it works out.
Exactly. This sort of talent shouldn't get wasted, he should really get good support from the team, not just in terms of money, but also in terms of team intigration, participation in tournament / leagues etc.
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Whoaaaaaa....... that guy is really lucky..... gl man gl
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Intrested to see this kid play. I'm delightfully surprised if he has solid mechanics.
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On November 06 2011 05:43 MyLastSerenade wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 05:40 SabreUK wrote:On November 06 2011 05:39 MayorITC wrote:On November 06 2011 05:14 Kernkraft wrote:
All: 5-11 (31.25%)
I dont have big hopes You must be new to Team Liquid. It wasn't that long ago people were making japes at Koll, another young German progamer. I remember that, noone believed he was getting good at the game and just 12months later he was top4 at WCG xD yes and the he quittet sc2 cause of 6 pool or? :x
I believe you are talking about lucifron.
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On November 06 2011 05:39 sVnteen wrote:dont tell this to the german cultural minister she freaked out about a 17 yeah old playing football professionally i wonder what shes gonna do when she hears this  Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 05:35 Eogris wrote:
Herzlichen glückwunsch und viel glück google translator ftw?
I'm taking german 1 next semester.
On topic, I think it's really cool of mouz to do something like this. I haven't heard of other teams doing this, but it'd be cool to see more of it.
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He could be the new XlorD, XlorD got his chance in SK06 and became one of the best german WC3 players. GL Marine.
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Don't wanna be putting too much pressure on such a young kid but...SC2 Koll incoming?
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Damn it I'm so jealous. Does he go to school?
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Sounds like this kid has potential. Looking forward to seeing him in team games.
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14... and in Mouz... looks to be another Stephano!
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A new era of child labor. x.x hahaha j/k
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I would wish that was me.... Im 14 and i also wanna be picked up by a pro team. And that dude have been playing so well in go4sc2 last time i saw him 
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On November 06 2011 05:54 mTwRINE wrote:
I hope he gets supported the way he needs to, like helping to improve/organise instead of just a name and 50e/month.
This will be very interesting, so gl and hope it works out.
hehe i will do my best for sure!
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Good luck to HeroMarine and team mouz! Looking forward to seeing him play in the future.
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Why would a team recruit a kid? Since the whole point of a pro gamer team, is to have it's members participating and eventually winning as many "offline" events as possible.
Mouz can't send him alone to different event were he will eventually qualify to participate.
Also their member that was released recently, Rasowy, was an average european terran that despite being part of one of the strongest EU team, he didn't show good results.
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On November 06 2011 05:17 CoR wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 05:14 Kernkraft wrote:
All: 5-11 (31.25%)
I dont have big hopes ... you look without thinking right ? 0-2 vs mana 2-1 vs moman ... this is a shame he lost 0-2 vs mana ? RLY ? ..... as a 14 year old talent player ... dude hate such negative posts
alot of people take TLPD for gold... and its really awkward, as tbh i dont understand how tlpd stuff works... look at mine lol, some games get added and its all losses, when i beat a well known player in a tournament those games arent thrown up there =/ and its like that for alot of lesser known players. TLPD is only great for a player that people keep track of and keep updated.
with that aside, i wish this kid luck.
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This is just unbelieveable ! He has a really bright future if he keeps to improve !
Great move for both, and respect for mouz.esports for caring about young talents !
I would like to wish you both luck and also have fun during your pro gaming career !
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On November 06 2011 05:42 Kluey wrote:
I'm 15 and I can tell you right now, it's hard socially to play Starcraft and try to be good. There's so many things to do and choosing Starcraft is the worst option for many.
Good luck to him.
(Is he even allowed to get a salary by the way? xD)
Yea I remember being 15, had absolutely no free time, wait till your older and supporting a family, your schedule really opens up
o to be young lol
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nice, man! good luck to you!
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That's good news. Hopefully he will do better than Syck and Lomo
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Anyone know if his stream will be in the Featured Streamers list?
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On November 06 2011 06:10 4rChon wrote:
Damn it I'm so jealous. Does he go to school?
Seriously?
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On November 06 2011 06:32 HeRoMaRinE wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 05:54 mTwRINE wrote:
I hope he gets supported the way he needs to, like helping to improve/organise instead of just a name and 50e/month.
This will be very interesting, so gl and hope it works out. hehe i will do my best for sure!
Good luck have fun!
Are you streaming at all HeroMarine? It would be nice to check out a bit more of your play and see how you progress in the coming months etc!
I love these kinds of initiatives anyway, big props to teams for doing it.
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On November 06 2011 06:10 4rChon wrote:
Damn it I'm so jealous. Does he go to school?
wut?
what kind of question is that
of course he goes to school he doesnt have any other option right so what could he do? :/
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Honestly, I did not follow him and did not know or see much from, but what I saw impressed me and I think he has great potential. I really hope that this will work out for and that he can show some strong showings =)
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On November 06 2011 05:14 Kernkraft wrote:
All: 5-11 (31.25%)
I dont have big hopes
If he were 50-110 I would agree with you, but right now he hasn't played a lot of games and the ones he has have been against good players. Four of his loses are to MorroW and MaNa, two of the very best foreigners and his now teammates.
I certainly hope that this kid becomes great, as Mouz is my favorite team. Good luck Mouz!!!
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Really great news. I really like that Mousesports continues with their talent project, even if it didn´t work out that well with the previous candidates Lomo, Syck and Rasowy. I prefer teams, that build up young unpolished players with big potential (being EU GM at 14 while going to school indicates great promise) over teams that use much money to buy already complete players.
For a german teen who loves esport there isn´t much better stuff than being a part of the german role model gaming organisation. It is a huge chance for him, not only because of Mouz being one of the most famous, professional and succesful teams. As a long time follower (albeit without inside knowledge) it also strikes me as a team with many supportive players (especially Hasu), who are gladly giving advice if needed.
I´m really looking forward to see him playing in the future.
Roof is defenitely a player with great promise and better results than Marine, but Mouz signed with Bigs another solid zerg only recently. It is possible, that they were specifically looking for a german terran to keep it balanced race wise and support local talents. The only other young promising german terrans I can think of would be DBS, who found a good team with TypeII and Rmdx, who is part of Alien Invasion.
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On November 06 2011 05:21 Sneakyz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 05:14 Kernkraft wrote:
All: 5-11 (31.25%)
I dont have big hopes By your logic I guess people like Naniwa were shit, no? After all he was a onebase nub how could he become good? Don't judge people based on win ratio. Especially not without looking at the players he faced.
It's fine to make some judgements based on win ratio, but at least let the player get a decent number of games under his fucking belt. The guy has under 20 games on his record, a fair few against top players.
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HeRoMaRiNe, no suprise he's 14 with that nickname.. :D_
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does he dont like to play in the woods like we did in the past? i think thats way more fun then a computergame
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cool pick up, looking forward to seeing his play! get him on mouztrap for some exposure! :D
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On November 06 2011 05:21 Sneakyz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 05:14 Kernkraft wrote:
All: 5-11 (31.25%)
I dont have big hopes By your logic I guess people like Naniwa were shit, no? After all he was a onebase nub how could he become good? Don't judge people based on win ratio. Especially not without looking at the players he faced.
Naniwa wasn't on a team like Mouz when he was bad though. It's not comparable.
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Thorzain make him your apprentice!!
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I hate it when someone 10 years younger than me is 10x better than me!
hah, seriously though, great news for the kid, great to see such a top team putting in the effort to potentially top future players, I hope it works out for both of them and we'll see this kid kicking ass!
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On November 06 2011 11:14 hmunkey wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 05:21 Sneakyz wrote:On November 06 2011 05:14 Kernkraft wrote:
All: 5-11 (31.25%)
I dont have big hopes By your logic I guess people like Naniwa were shit, no? After all he was a onebase nub how could he become good? Don't judge people based on win ratio. Especially not without looking at the players he faced. Naniwa wasn't on a team like Mouz when he was bad though. It's not comparable.
He was on MYM by that time, a team with a strong line up back then. This pick up isn´t based on results, but rather on potential. Otherwise it wouldn´t make sense to recruit a 14 year old boy and declare him as talent player. If they would just want a solid terran as backup player, they could have signed a mid-tier EU terran.
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roof is playing for Serious Gaming. And they have fairly good results in the 4PL Clan League.
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Hope he does good, but I don't know.
Mouz has a all-star lineup of great players with good results right now.. Morrow, Thorzain, Hasu, etc. kind of weird seeing a non champion on Mouz, but alright I guess.
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Wow that's awesome for him, 14 years old and playing for one of the best SC2 teams out there. I hope he does well for mouz Look forward to seeing some games from him.
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I really hope to see if these young players can grow into powerhouses with some time and effort. Just gotta make sure that they concentrate on the school as well. Hopefully HeroMarine can become a new Terran powerhouse from Europe.
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On November 06 2011 06:10 4rChon wrote:
Damn it I'm so jealous. Does he go to school?
Even MaNa is going to school now and still being one of the best Protoss in EU lol.
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grandmaster at 14? Holy shit what a pickup, if you can nurture this talent you have the next flash
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damn 14 years old and in GM?
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total baller, hope him the best. he obviously has some talent.
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I hadnt even played starcraft/warcraft at the age of 14^^
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HOLY SHIT 14 Year old IN GM
This guy has some skills. More time to improve.
Now I want to see a showmatch between him and White-Ra (suggestion)
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Wow, 14 years old is pretty crazy. And if mouz picked him up, he's got to have a ton of skill/potential. Can't wait to see what he can do!
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age and grandmaster has no correlation what so ever.
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This is neat. I hope he does well!
GL !!
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I don't understand what does age mean in sc2? if he is younger means he is greater talent or what?
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On November 06 2011 18:17 habeck wrote:
I don't understand what does age mean in sc2? if he is younger means he is greater talent or what?
Yeah, i think age is pretty overrated in sc2. Let's see if i am wrong or not, but the korean sc2 scene until now tends to show that.
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On November 06 2011 19:28 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 18:17 habeck wrote:
I don't understand what does age mean in sc2? if he is younger means he is greater talent or what? Yeah, i think age is pretty overrated in sc2. Let's see if i am wrong or not, but the korean sc2 scene until now tends to show that.
It has been proven over and over that children learn much faster than adults as their brain is still developing or some such scientific nonsense. If the kids good now, and he can improve at a faster rate than others and dominate (given the proper practice environment)
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i don't understand why everyone is amazed that someone who is 14 years old was able to get into GM, if you just put in the time most 14year olds could get into gm.
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Why start his stream in a few weeks and not naaooo!?
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On November 06 2011 19:31 TheAntZ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 19:28 HolydaKing wrote:On November 06 2011 18:17 habeck wrote:
I don't understand what does age mean in sc2? if he is younger means he is greater talent or what? Yeah, i think age is pretty overrated in sc2. Let's see if i am wrong or not, but the korean sc2 scene until now tends to show that. It has been proven over and over that children learn much faster than adults as their brain is still developing or some such scientific nonsense. If the kids good now, and he can improve at a faster rate than others and dominate (given the proper practice environment)
With what you're saying it's less impressive to be in GM as 14 then 18, since his progress naturally will be faster....
in conclusion: don't put any, or atleast very little, weight on age.
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hopefully this rookie recruit can actually do something
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On November 06 2011 19:48 skyrunner wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 19:31 TheAntZ wrote:On November 06 2011 19:28 HolydaKing wrote:On November 06 2011 18:17 habeck wrote:
I don't understand what does age mean in sc2? if he is younger means he is greater talent or what? Yeah, i think age is pretty overrated in sc2. Let's see if i am wrong or not, but the korean sc2 scene until now tends to show that. It has been proven over and over that children learn much faster than adults as their brain is still developing or some such scientific nonsense. If the kids good now, and he can improve at a faster rate than others and dominate (given the proper practice environment) With what you're saying it's less impressive to be in GM as 14 then 18, since his progress naturally will be faster.... in conclusion: don't put any, or atleast very little, weight on age.
no but everyone think it's fucking amazing that he got into GM as 14, when it really isn't.
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i dont understand why mouz do this its nothink special to be a Ok and not good with 14 becouse at this age u have alooot time to play becouse u dont need do anythink at school or not alot ~ before gm he was only a standart top 100 of masters and i was top 10 of all master all time with 60% winrate and dont get in gm its just really buggy that top 400 masters gets in gm etcetc,, ye heromarine is not really good, played sometimes against him and it was pretty random,,,,,,
i really hate it that teams think if they are gm he is really good and get more money than others pretty bad system
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Woah, tensai level player spotted.
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On November 06 2011 20:39 kaup wrote:
i dont understand why mouz do this its nothink special to be a Ok and not good with 14 becouse at this age u have alooot time to play becouse u dont need do anythink at school or not alot ~ before gm he was only a standart top 100 of masters and i was top 10 of all master all time with 60% winrate and dont get in gm its just really buggy that top 400 masters gets in gm etcetc,, ye heromarine is not really good, played sometimes against him and it was pretty random,,,,,,
i really hate it that teams think if they are gm he is really good and get more money than others pretty bad system
Why so jalouse .. be happy for the kid ..
It's pretty cool to be a 14 year old and be in a very good team!
Altho i hope he still does ok in school, caus if he doesn't and mb drops out of it .. his future life could be broken
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This. roof is really frikkin good, always having the chance to win against any player, he faces.
Anyways, I hope HeroMarine is a good catch for mouz, since they are really caring about having those young talents (even if they abandon them every 3 month or so).
Time will tell.
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GL! Saw some casted games in the Go4SC2. Really big talent!
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At least he choose the right race wink wink!
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On November 06 2011 21:58 eYeball wrote:At least he choose the right race wink wink!
German?
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On November 06 2011 19:56 skrotcyk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 19:48 skyrunner wrote:On November 06 2011 19:31 TheAntZ wrote:On November 06 2011 19:28 HolydaKing wrote:On November 06 2011 18:17 habeck wrote:
I don't understand what does age mean in sc2? if he is younger means he is greater talent or what? Yeah, i think age is pretty overrated in sc2. Let's see if i am wrong or not, but the korean sc2 scene until now tends to show that. It has been proven over and over that children learn much faster than adults as their brain is still developing or some such scientific nonsense. If the kids good now, and he can improve at a faster rate than others and dominate (given the proper practice environment) With what you're saying it's less impressive to be in GM as 14 then 18, since his progress naturally will be faster.... in conclusion: don't put any, or atleast very little, weight on age. no but everyone think it's fucking amazing that he got into GM as 14, when it really isn't.
but... that's what i said...
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14 year olds taking off games from pros damn. reminds me of how my high school friends who are like master/gm and are like doing so well @_@
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Gl hf to him! :D Really awesome to see more pro gamers :D
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Has anyone else noticed how many of the "young talent" players happen to play terran xD
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On November 06 2011 05:22 justinpal wrote:
We all have so much time to improve. No one is dying at 30.
no one dies at the age of 30? what faiery world do you live in?
oh and also. There have to be a reason mouz picks up a 14 year old kid so im looking forward to see some play from him! best of lucks heromarine
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Had a chance to see him play some show matches at Gamescom against Mondragon and ParanOid at the Acer booth - cute kid :D
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On November 07 2011 05:32 Hapse wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 05:22 justinpal wrote:
We all have so much time to improve. No one is dying at 30. no one dies at the age of 30? what faiery world do you live in? oh and also. There have to be a reason mouz picks up a 14 year old kid so im looking forward to see some play from him! best of lucks heromarine
He's obviously talking about dying from natural aging...
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On November 06 2011 22:30 Nimic wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 21:58 eYeball wrote:At least he choose the right race wink wink! German?
nationality =/= race, although many claim race doesn't exist
ANYWAY, grats sad I skipped over the thread this long, really like mouz for picking up new talent on the scene gl both!
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