• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:07
CEST 20:07
KST 03:07
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting9[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5
Community News
BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET4Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO85.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)80Weekly Cups (Sept 29-Oct 5): MaxPax triples up3PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition32
StarCraft 2
General
Stellar Fest: StarCraft II returns to Canada The New Patch Killed Mech! herO Talks: Poor Performance at EWC and more... TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting Revisiting the game after10 years and wow it's bad
Tourneys
$1,200 WardiTV October (Oct 21st-31st) WardiTV Mondays RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers Mutation # 492 Get Out More
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET Question regarding recent ASL Bisu vs Larva game [Interview] Grrrr... 2024 Pros React To: BarrackS + FlaSh Coaching vs SnOw
Tourneys
[ASL20] Semifinal B SC4ALL $1,500 Open Bracket LAN [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Semifinal A
Strategy
BW - ajfirecracker Strategy & Training Relatively freeroll strategies Current Meta Siegecraft - a new perspective
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640} TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Men's Fashion Thread Sex and weight loss
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Series you have seen recently... Movie Discussion!
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Heroism of Pepe the Fro…
Peanutsc
Rocket League: Traits, Abili…
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1595 users

ESL Presents: 2vTuesdays

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 Next All
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-07 12:17:50
November 04 2011 13:26 GMT
#1
[image loading]

Episode 1: Introduction to Competitive 2v2 with Axslav and Strifecro
http://tv.esl.eu/de/#/de/vod/view/23427

Hey guys,

Rotterdam and I have been talking a lot about things within the SC2 community that don't get enough coverage, and have decided that competitive/high-level 2v2 is one of the most underrated discusion points in the scene.

To remedy that, we'll be kicking off a new series at ESL TV: 2vTuesdays.

Every Tuesday (and sometimes on other days too) we will be talking to top level 2v2 teams, playing practice games against professional players, and debunking the myths and strategies surrounding 2v2 play at a high level.

We will be premiering the show Saturday night (lol) at 23:59 CET/ 6PM EST and will be kicking off the series with, arguably, the strongest 2v2 pair in the world: EG's Axslav and Strifecro.

Again, the first show will be:

November 5th at 23:59 CET, 6PM EST at http://www.esl.tv

And we will be continuing the series on Tuesdays for the next couple of months.

See you guys there!
AsBan
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway94 Posts
November 04 2011 13:32 GMT
#2
ÿou guys should get on Gamerleagues snute and richy best european 2v2 team!
DeMusliM | MaNa | ThorZain | Naniwa
Wunder
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2950 Posts
November 04 2011 13:33 GMT
#3
Ooo, I like the past series you guys have done, and this one is quite interesting as well! 2v2s have been something that has interested me in the past and most of the information I know has been from Day[9]'s brief brush with it, so it will be exciting to see a weekly show dedicated to 2v2ing. Hopefully you guys can do a Mapmaking show as well as I'd love to have more and more custom 1v1 maps coming out more than one source!
Writer@joonjoewong
Matkap
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Spain627 Posts
November 04 2011 13:35 GMT
#4
like the name :D
A man tells his stories so many times that he becomes the stories. They live on after him, and in that way he becomes immortal.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
November 04 2011 13:35 GMT
#5
hmmm i like all your shows but i wish you'd focus more on "normal" 1v1 instead of too many gimmicky things like map of the month and 2v2, grass is always greener was by far the best of your shows imo
robih
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria1086 Posts
November 04 2011 13:36 GMT
#6
wtf
i am assuming bitter is drunk by that time, so it should be a great show
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
November 04 2011 13:39 GMT
#7
On November 04 2011 22:26 MrBitter wrote:
We will be premiering the show Saturday night (lol) at 23:59 CET/ 6PM EST and will be kicking off the series with, arguably, the strongest 2v2 pair in the world: EG's Axslav and Strifecro.

After reading this part i stopped.....
You might as well pick some random 2v2 team on ladder.
Axlaw and Strifecro aren't even strongest 2v2 on NA server.
You should have gone with Catz and Drewbie (no 1 on NA)or go for broke... The fanatic 2v2 team (said to be the best) or empire's team (Aristeo + Kas)

Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 13:41:09
November 04 2011 13:40 GMT
#8
On November 04 2011 22:39 Frankon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 22:26 MrBitter wrote:
We will be premiering the show Saturday night (lol) at 23:59 CET/ 6PM EST and will be kicking off the series with, arguably, the strongest 2v2 pair in the world: EG's Axslav and Strifecro.

After reading this part i stopped.....
You might as well pick some random 2v2 team on ladder.
Axlaw and Strifecro aren't even strongest 2v2 on NA server.
You should have gone with Catz and Drewbie (no 1 on NA)or go for broke... The fanatic 2v2 team (said to be the best) or empire's team (Aristeo + Kas)



Is Aristeo parterning with Kas full time? I just presumed Cubert was busy or something. Fnatic team did probably impress me the most when it came to synergy in the EGMC

Not too interested in 2s, but I'll tune in for Bitterdam <3
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
November 04 2011 13:41 GMT
#9
Cubert stoped playing SC2 from what i heard... Which is sad. Him and Aristeo were without doubt no1 2v2 team in the world.
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
November 04 2011 13:42 GMT
#10
On November 04 2011 22:39 Frankon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 22:26 MrBitter wrote:
We will be premiering the show Saturday night (lol) at 23:59 CET/ 6PM EST and will be kicking off the series with, arguably, the strongest 2v2 pair in the world: EG's Axslav and Strifecro.

After reading this part i stopped.....
You might as well pick some random 2v2 team on ladder.
Axlaw and Strifecro aren't even strongest 2v2 on NA server.
You should have gone with Catz and Drewbie (no 1 on NA)or go for broke... The fanatic 2v2 team (said to be the best) or empire's team (Aristeo + Kas)



Don't worry, we'll be talking to all the strong 2v2 teams around the community througout the life of the show. <3
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3811 Posts
November 04 2011 13:46 GMT
#11
Go for the danish
AiSieesch and AiLilleKanin :D
lillekanin = little rabbit
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
November 04 2011 13:48 GMT
#12
MrBitter but dont advertise them as the best in the world... They are decent but even in their own tournament EG masters they were 7-10.
Tigi
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany472 Posts
November 04 2011 13:55 GMT
#13
On November 04 2011 22:42 MrBitter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 22:39 Frankon wrote:
On November 04 2011 22:26 MrBitter wrote:
We will be premiering the show Saturday night (lol) at 23:59 CET/ 6PM EST and will be kicking off the series with, arguably, the strongest 2v2 pair in the world: EG's Axslav and Strifecro.

After reading this part i stopped.....
You might as well pick some random 2v2 team on ladder.
Axlaw and Strifecro aren't even strongest 2v2 on NA server.
You should have gone with Catz and Drewbie (no 1 on NA)or go for broke... The fanatic 2v2 team (said to be the best) or empire's team (Aristeo + Kas)



Don't worry, we'll be talking to all the strong 2v2 teams around the community througout the life of the show. <3

Yes, but saying Axslav and Strifecro were the best 2v2 team, makes obvious that you ain't got a clue about what you're talking about, so you should either do some research before hosting a show or don't host it.
§1: Die Units des Hasu sind unantastbar.
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
November 04 2011 13:56 GMT
#14
I am so excited for this, 2v2 gets so little love and yet I think it can be far more entertaining and technical than 1v1 at the highest level. I also love that you can't just take 2 good players and have a 2v2 team that rules, July and Bomber are great players that during a recent showmatch made a terrible 2v2 team because they had no combined plan or unit synergy. I look forward to the inevitable Destiny + Minigun episode and hopefully one with the winners of PTSL season 2.
Zabimaru
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom132 Posts
November 04 2011 13:58 GMT
#15
After reading this part i stopped.....
You might as well pick some random 2v2 team on ladder.
Axlaw and Strifecro aren't even strongest 2v2 on NA server.
You should have gone with Catz and Drewbie (no 1 on NA)or go for broke... The fanatic 2v2 team (said to be the best) or empire's team (Aristeo + Kas)



arguably, the strongest 2v2 pair in the world: EG's Axslav and Strifecro...


So feel free to argue...
To Death we shall all go.
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 14:48:30
November 04 2011 14:48 GMT
#16
Should get getslamt on here, best random player and 2v2er ever, NA srsly tho. Plus he's cute. :D
Anime is cuter than you. Legacy of the Void GM Protoss Gameplay: twitch.tv/kyo7763 youtube.com/user/KyoStarcraft/
TL+ Member
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
November 04 2011 14:55 GMT
#17
On November 04 2011 22:35 Tsubbi wrote:
hmmm i like all your shows but i wish you'd focus more on "normal" 1v1 instead of too many gimmicky things like map of the month and 2v2, grass is always greener was by far the best of your shows imo


Map of the Month isn't gimmicky, it's helping Starcraft 2 in a fundamental way.

Maps are way underrated in balance discussions and supporting the mapmaking community to have good maps and map pools in the future is essential! I'm glad ESL realized that (as Blizzard, TL, NASL and IPL do now, too).
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
PR4Y
Profile Joined November 2010
United States260 Posts
November 04 2011 14:57 GMT
#18
I know there are already a lot of comments about the StrifeCro + AxSlav team "best in world"... but seriously LOL. I'd say ProTech and ANY of his 2v2 partners could easily wipe them.

Just because these people are pro 1v1 and spend a bit of time playing 2v2 doesn't make them top level 2v2 competetors... True top level 2v2 players are just that... top level 2v2 players. I believe Millenium or something signed a pro 2v2 team to their roster for solely 2v2 matches for tourneys like EGMC.


If you are going to be discussing world class 2v2, don't interview your run-of-the-mill 1v1 pro's that form a 2v2 team with a buddy... interview ACTUAL 2v2 pro's.... there are quite a few of them around.


This is a good idea, but it needs a bit of polishing in regards to who is being brought in to speak on behalf of the 2v2 community.
I'm your average Brotoss brother, weilding my brommortal, brothership, brolossus, bro ray, broenix... BROTHERHOOD OF BROTOSS
robih
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria1086 Posts
November 04 2011 15:07 GMT
#19
On November 04 2011 23:57 PR4Y wrote:
I know there are already a lot of comments about the StrifeCro + AxSlav team "best in world"... but seriously LOL. I'd say ProTech and ANY of his 2v2 partners could easily wipe them.

Just because these people are pro 1v1 and spend a bit of time playing 2v2 doesn't make them top level 2v2 competetors... True top level 2v2 players are just that... top level 2v2 players. I believe Millenium or something signed a pro 2v2 team to their roster for solely 2v2 matches for tourneys like EGMC.


If you are going to be discussing world class 2v2, don't interview your run-of-the-mill 1v1 pro's that form a 2v2 team with a buddy... interview ACTUAL 2v2 pro's.... there are quite a few of them around.


This is a good idea, but it needs a bit of polishing in regards to who is being brought in to speak on behalf of the 2v2 community.


well axslav and strifecro were an awesome 2on2 team in wc3 and they still play 2on2 in SC2
so i wouldnt call them 2 1on1 players playing together
IceColdKilla
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland85 Posts
November 04 2011 15:07 GMT
#20
I'd like to see Aristeo & Cubert
1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Safe House 2
17:00
Round Robin
ZombieGrub612
TKL 180
CranKy Ducklings89
EnkiAlexander 37
3DClanTV 32
LiquipediaDiscussion
Online Event
14:00
Waterfall Cup #1
MindelVK72
BRAT_OK 52
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ZombieGrub612
TKL 180
MindelVK 72
BRAT_OK 52
Codebar 22
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 45363
Calm 4467
Hyuk 3423
Bisu 1752
Horang2 784
firebathero 269
Shuttle 243
Hyun 148
Backho 105
Dewaltoss 99
[ Show more ]
Barracks 60
ZZZero.O 42
Rock 35
Dota 2
Gorgc7862
qojqva1888
LuMiX1
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu394
Khaldor326
Other Games
B2W.Neo1039
Beastyqt599
Skadoodle509
Liquid`VortiX157
KnowMe134
Mew2King103
ToD90
Trikslyr54
rGuardiaN24
fpsfer 2
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1578
BasetradeTV36
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• printf 40
• Adnapsc2 6
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
• Kozan
• intothetv
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
• Airneanach28
• Michael_bg 6
• STPLYoutube
• BSLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3250
• Ler88
League of Legends
• Nemesis6919
• HappyZerGling125
Other Games
• imaqtpie1514
• Shiphtur275
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
15h 53m
Safe House 2
22h 53m
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 21h
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
Online Event
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
6 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS2
WardiTV TLMC #15
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
EC S1
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.