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BlueBoxSC
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States582 Posts
October 29 2011 20:30 GMT
#21
That's still plenty of people worldwide to cheer on SC2 as an eSport, so I'm not all that worried yet.

Great data though, excellent read.

Korea hwaiting? xD
BwCBlueBox.837
muffley
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States280 Posts
October 29 2011 20:37 GMT
#22
On October 30 2011 05:20 legaton wrote:
The NA numbers, do they count the accounts from the merged latin-american server?

Also, pretty shitty results for SC2.

Yes, as well as russia -> europe, and taiwan -> korea.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-29 20:49:57
October 29 2011 20:49 GMT
#23
Awesome post. The only concern I have is that the non-Chinese servers had a huge dropoff from S1 -> S2 because S1 was 9 months long (or something). S2 was only 3-4 months long, and they (China) experienced a larger dropoff than the other servers did in their first month? Oh well.
lalala
MaV_gGSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1345 Posts
October 29 2011 20:55 GMT
#24
More people are playing in Korean ^^
Life's good :D
muffley
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States280 Posts
October 29 2011 21:06 GMT
#25
On October 30 2011 05:49 youngminii wrote:
Awesome post. The only concern I have is that the non-Chinese servers had a huge dropoff from S1 -> S2 because S1 was 9 months long (or something). S2 was only 3-4 months long, and they (China) experienced a larger dropoff than the other servers did in their first month? Oh well.

Yes, one thing I don't keep any information on when games are played, or I could tell how many active players there are at any given time. Work gets in the way of the important things . . .
wordd
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia190 Posts
October 29 2011 21:09 GMT
#26
SEA is so fucking dead i cant play on it anymore. I get matched againts the same people it drives me mad.
YA
itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
October 29 2011 21:10 GMT
#27
On October 30 2011 05:04 decaf wrote:
KR actually having more players in S3? I find that hard ot believe.


As the pro scene transitions from BW to SC2 in korea, I would imagine the number of players playing sc2 would grow also. There are probably many hold-outs who haven't gotten SC2 because they still see all of their favorite players competing in BW. But when their favorite players switch games, they may decide it might be time to buy SC2 for themselves.
=)=
Peleus
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia420 Posts
October 29 2011 22:40 GMT
#28
I feel a lot less proud of getting GM on SEA.

Oh, and in a nice way for the love of god please label the axis on your graphs.
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-29 23:31:17
October 29 2011 23:30 GMT
#29
Is it possible that the growth in Korea because they merge the Taiwan server in? Also a lot of foreigners can buy TW account easily now and play there.Also, there is apparently no lag anymore playing in KR server from NA according to incontrol on SOTG. Might be quite a bit of repeat from other regions.
muffley
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States280 Posts
October 29 2011 23:42 GMT
#30
On October 30 2011 07:40 Peleus wrote:Oh, and in a nice way for the love of god please label the axis on your graphs.

hehe, yea, I hear you. I wrote that code over a year ago and haven't touched it since, very hacked together and such. Good incentive now to actually look at it again.
Achilles306
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada84 Posts
October 29 2011 23:52 GMT
#31
The numbers don't seem bad to me. You have to remember that people had to go back to school for last season and maybe don't have the time to play anymore. Also need to consider that most video games are pretty dead after 1.5 years of being released. Most try to attract new players by releasing a new game (EA, COD) and Blizzard hasn't advertised WoL at all since release. Considering all the new games that came out over the last year, I'd say the numbers look good.
Greyhawk
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia110 Posts
October 30 2011 00:22 GMT
#32
Oh my god.. SEA is a graveyard.. time to make the switch to NA...
ShoCk-
muffley
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States280 Posts
October 30 2011 00:24 GMT
#33
On October 30 2011 07:40 Peleus wrote:Oh, and in a nice way for the love of god please label the axis on your graphs.

There you go, have some labels :D
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On October 30 2011 08:52 Achilles306 wrote:
The numbers don't seem bad to me. You have to remember that people had to go back to school for last season and maybe don't have the time to play anymore. Also need to consider that most video games are pretty dead after 1.5 years of being released. Most try to attract new players by releasing a new game (EA, COD) and Blizzard hasn't advertised WoL at all since release. Considering all the new games that came out over the last year, I'd say the numbers look good.

I did the math on how many new players there had been through season 3, and worldwide, got over 240,000, which I put under the section attrition rate. That's a lot of sales for a year and a half old game.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
October 30 2011 00:26 GMT
#34
Could you summarize the data for us?
Zealot Lord
Profile Joined May 2010
Hong Kong747 Posts
October 30 2011 00:29 GMT
#35
One thing I'm pretty curious about is the actual reason the players are leaving - aside from real life priorities, is it due to gameplay (just not fun etc.)? ladder fear? 'coldness' of bnet interface? I think it would be good for Blizzard to know what isn't working, so they can try do something to maintain a higher % of players going forward.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12238 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 00:39:08
October 30 2011 00:35 GMT
#36
On October 30 2011 09:29 Zealot Lord wrote:
One thing I'm pretty curious about is the actual reason the players are leaving - aside from real life priorities, is it due to gameplay (just not fun etc.)? ladder fear? 'coldness' of bnet interface? I think it would be good for Blizzard to know what isn't working, so they can try do something to maintain a higher % of players going forward.


Look at the tremendous drop in the graph after even x=1. I think it stands to reason that there are many casual players who played during Season 1, but stopped because they either don't think of multiplayer the same way we do (a competition), or would rather play team games for fun, or to see where they'd place and then quit. Seasons 2 and 3 also have very sharp drops after x=1, which probably means the more casual players just played their one placement match to see which league they'd fall into, and that's it.

I wonder how much the Season 3 bonus pool accrual rate change impacted the amount of retained players. On the surface, it appears that it really didn't at all because the curves are very similar as wins increase. However, maybe if the bonus pool was still at its old rate, the curve would start further down the Y?
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Yunie
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom38 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 00:45:24
October 30 2011 00:39 GMT
#37
I am just curious if there is anyway to detect or see somehow which accounts are one persons account.

I know personally I have 5 accounts and I use them all on the ladder at some point in each season (They are in different regions as well). I'm going to assume you can't actually detect that because I certainly can't think of a way. Great data by the way and thank you for sharing this it was a nice read. I knew that the player base decreased with every season but I didn't realize it was by that much from season 1 to 2.

Good to see a tiny amount of growth in the Korea numbers albeit a pretty small one.
Starcraft is the single most amazing thing in the world.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
October 30 2011 00:40 GMT
#38
I'm not helping much, but I quit team games this season. I will focus more on 1vs1.
Nevertheless, it's sad 1vs1 players are becoming less except in Korea.
BordZ
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia118 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 00:53:37
October 30 2011 00:52 GMT
#39
On October 30 2011 06:09 wordd wrote:
SEA is so fucking dead i cant play on it anymore. I get matched againts the same people it drives me mad.


What are you smoking? You do understand that we are getting 10x less players than NA whereas the population of the entirely of sea is 15x less than the US and would be roughly 20x given the inclusion of Canada, if anything it means we are in a very populated server given the population differences and our ability to play on NA.
Zealot Lord
Profile Joined May 2010
Hong Kong747 Posts
October 30 2011 00:56 GMT
#40
On October 30 2011 09:35 Excalibur_Z wrote:
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On October 30 2011 09:29 Zealot Lord wrote:
One thing I'm pretty curious about is the actual reason the players are leaving - aside from real life priorities, is it due to gameplay (just not fun etc.)? ladder fear? 'coldness' of bnet interface? I think it would be good for Blizzard to know what isn't working, so they can try do something to maintain a higher % of players going forward.


Look at the tremendous drop in the graph after even x=1. I think it stands to reason that there are many casual players who played during Season 1, but stopped because they either don't think of multiplayer the same way we do (a competition), or would rather play team games for fun, or to see where they'd place and then quit. Seasons 2 and 3 also have very sharp drops after x=1, which probably means the more casual players just played their one placement match to see which league they'd fall into, and that's it.

I wonder how much the Season 3 bonus pool accrual rate change impacted the amount of retained players. On the surface, it appears that it really didn't at all because the curves are very similar as wins increase. However, maybe if the bonus pool was still at its old rate, the curve would start further down the Y?


Yeah, I definitely know what you mean - but like, is SC really a game that only mainly (high level) competitive players can enjoy? If the game is fun, shouldn't the casuals play more than just their one placement match? They could do those wacky day9 funday monday stuff etc. I mean, the lower bonus pool point accumulation and no loss record showing for below masters were all meant to encourage casuals playing more no?

What I want to say is that there are quite a few 1v1 games where both the serious and the casual enjoy playing, but it seems like even with pretty good matchmaking with the MMR system in SC2, majority of the lower level casual players just don't have 'fun'?
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