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muffley
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States280 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 01:15:03
October 29 2011 19:45 GMT
#1
Doing a similar thing to my Season 1/2 Data Dump for seasons 2 and 3. In season 3, a few servers were merged, such as Latin America going into North America. I've merged this data from season 1 and 2, to make this data consistent.

(S2 is Season 2, S3 is Season 3)
na is North America, eu is Europe, kr is Korea, cn is China, sea is South-East Asia.

Total players that placed in the 1v1 gametype, and players that placed in any ladder gametype.
		1V1 PLAYERS			ALL PLAYERS
S2 S3 % diff S2 S3 % diff
na 428,201 381,855 (89.2%) 597,561 551,524 (92.3%)
eu 406,608 366,478 (90.1%) 540,810 506,616 (93.7%)
kr 157,580 159,532 (101.2%) 241,545 248,954 (103.1%)
cn 190,302 91,791 (48.2%) 242,082 113,701 (47.0%)
sea 46,627 39,320 (84.3%) 64,293 55,633 (86.5%)


China had the same drop-off that all the other regions experienced going from season 1 to 2, because Starcraft 2 was released in China at the start of season 2. Everyone else stayed close to where they were before, even when season 3 was a month shorter than season 2!

Here are graphs of players over time. Brown is season 1, silver season 2, gold season 3. Season 1's data starts a month past release.

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Europe
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Korea
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China
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Southeast Asia
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Here are players with at least 25 wins (b.net doesn't track loses yayyy!) in 1v1, and all gametypes. Season 2 data has been time-modified (see bottom of post for details).
		1V1 GAMES			ALL GAMETYPES
S2 S3 % diff S2 S3 % diff
na 136,395 120,779 (88.6%) 237,884 259,278 (109.0%)
eu 140,974 123,365 (87.5%) 233,675 253,706 (108.6%)
kr 50,408 55,030 (109.2%) 77,404 109,113 (141.0%)
cn 77,843 35,735 (45.9%) 72,201 57,555 (79.7%)
sea 15,367 12,423 (80.8%) 25,390 26,087 (102.7%)


Graphs of similar data, between 0 wins (everybody) and 200 wins.
Brown is season 2, silver is season 3. Season 2 data is once again time-modified.
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North America
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Europe
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Korea
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China
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Southeast Asia
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Attrition rate.
This consists of players that played in previous seasons, who returned in season 3. China didn't have a season 1, so its historical data is limited to season 2 only.
     TOTAL PLAYERS      RETURNED FROM     % RETURNED IN SEASON 3 FROM
s2 s3 all s2 all s2 s3 new players
na 655,751 551,524 476,235 430,924 41.67% 65.71% 13.65% 75,289
eu 588,015 506,616 435,159 397,139 44.66% 67.54% 14.10% 71,457
kr 270,220 248,954 199,158 172,744 29.78% 63.93% 20.00% 37,418
cn 260,235 113,701 76,283 76,283 29.31% 29.31% 32.91% 49,796
sea 70,238 55,633 49,088 44,691 36.57% 63.63% 11.76% 6,545
EDIT: there were 210,505 new sc2 players in the last 3 months

This one's moderately complicated, here's a short explanation.
In North America 65.71% of players that played in season 2, also played in season 3. 41.67% of players that played in seasons 1 or 2, also played in season 3. 13.65% of players in season 3 (of which there were 551,524) did not play in seasons 1 or 2.


edit: What is "time-modified" data?
Since season 2 lasted almost a month longer than season 3, the numbers for games played doesn't match up properly. I modify player numbers based on how many people I had logged at a time matching up to the length of season 3.
For example, Korea actually has 56,393 people with 25 or more wins, while my numbers in the table state 50,408. Season 3 lasted 90 days, while season 2 lasted 118 days. (118 - 90 = 28) At the end of season 2, Korea had 221,819 players. 28 days prior to the end of season 2, Korea had 198,281 players, which is 89.38864blahblahblah%. Multiply 56,393 (real number of >= 25) by this percent, and you get the value in the table of 50,408.
edit2: added labels to my graphs.
edit3: new players per region in attrition rate


tl;dr china plummets as expected first season, everyone loses a little total players, gains a little active players, korea beats the curve, worldwide quarter million new players
Zarjax
Profile Joined September 2010
United States44 Posts
October 29 2011 19:49 GMT
#2
Glad to see growth in Korea, even if its just a little bit. It is the only region to not see loses.
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1793 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-29 19:55:45
October 29 2011 19:55 GMT
#3
The decrease in Chinese players is quite worrying. Over 50% of the players gone from s2. That's really many. I don-t think the numbers on the other servers are very bad though... 6-8% really isn't that many
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-29 19:58:50
October 29 2011 19:57 GMT
#4
On October 30 2011 04:55 Zzzapper wrote:
The decrease in Chinese players is quite worrying. Over 50% of the players gone from s2. That's really many. I don-t think the numbers on the other servers are very bad though... 6-8% really isn't that many


The explanation for that is in the OP. It was the same as seen on the other servers after their first season.
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
Icekommander
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada483 Posts
October 29 2011 20:00 GMT
#5
On October 30 2011 04:55 Zzzapper wrote:
The decrease in Chinese players is quite worrying. Over 50% of the players gone from s2. That's really many. I don-t think the numbers on the other servers are very bad though... 6-8% really isn't that many



More or less the same thing has already happened to the other regions already. It would/will be considerably more worrying if the suffer a similar drop from seasons 3 to 4. Also good to see Korea growing. I never realised that they had significantly less players than the other regions though.
Time Flies like an arrow. Fruit Flies like a banana.
Ashfalt
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada83 Posts
October 29 2011 20:02 GMT
#6
I hope that the number of 1v1 players jump up once HOTS comes out.

Even though its only a 10% difference of a drop for this season, its depressing but expected that more and more players are not staying active in ladder.
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1793 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-29 20:04:58
October 29 2011 20:02 GMT
#7
On October 30 2011 05:00 Icekommander wrote:
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On October 30 2011 04:55 Zzzapper wrote:
The decrease in Chinese players is quite worrying. Over 50% of the players gone from s2. That's really many. I don-t think the numbers on the other servers are very bad though... 6-8% really isn't that many



More or less the same thing has already happened to the other regions already. It would/will be considerably more worrying if the suffer a similar drop from seasons 3 to 4. Also good to see Korea growing. I never realised that they had significantly less players than the other regions though.


Wasn't the it more like 30-35% who dropped out in the other servers? Maybe i just didn't remember this correctly...

Edit: Just looked it up. It was only EU that had a 35% decrease. The other servers had at least 40'ish
sebsejr
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
213 Posts
October 29 2011 20:02 GMT
#8
Hmm, this doesnt seem good? what do people think? is this killing esports?
<3
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
October 29 2011 20:04 GMT
#9
KR actually having more players in S3? I find that hard ot believe.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
October 29 2011 20:04 GMT
#10
Tons of people get discouraged from ladder so they just play customs, and you can't really account for that. Also lots of people that watch sc2 don't play, so I wouldn't get too worried lol.
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leveller
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1840 Posts
October 29 2011 20:06 GMT
#11
thats actually more players than I thought, thanks for the statistics!
Childplay
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada263 Posts
October 29 2011 20:06 GMT
#12
i stay really inactive since season 2, playing about only 100 games per season, but i still follow the pro scene and play customs =D
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
October 29 2011 20:07 GMT
#13
On October 30 2011 05:04 Megaliskuu wrote:
Tons of people get discouraged from ladder so they just play customs, and you can't really account for that. Also lots of people that watch sc2 don't play, so I wouldn't get too worried lol.


This, people abandoning the ladder after a single year. Its pretty common in all games. Numbers still look healthy though. Some games are a wasteland after 2-3 months.

"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
October 29 2011 20:08 GMT
#14
On October 30 2011 05:04 Megaliskuu wrote:
Tons of people get discouraged from ladder so they just play customs, and you can't really account for that. Also lots of people that watch sc2 don't play, so I wouldn't get too worried lol.


Yeah, <5% drop a season isn't worrying in the slightest this soon after the release.
Also I'll bet money it's going to jump again after HotS is released.
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redeux
Profile Joined November 2010
United States148 Posts
October 29 2011 20:09 GMT
#15
Well, on that note, I'm actually returning to the scene after a long break (only played 2 placement matches for season 2).
former masters zerg na/eu. took extended break, getting back into things.1v1 / 2v2 stream: twitch.tv/redeuxtv
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
October 29 2011 20:10 GMT
#16
On October 30 2011 05:04 decaf wrote:
KR actually having more players in S3? I find that hard ot believe.


a lot of americans are playing on the server too
Live and Let Die!
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-29 20:12:08
October 29 2011 20:11 GMT
#17
On October 30 2011 05:10 Tommylew wrote:
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On October 30 2011 05:04 decaf wrote:
KR actually having more players in S3? I find that hard ot believe.


a lot of americans are playing on the server too

The number of 'pro' players that play on KR is not going to change significantly the stats, there are 150 000 players on kr.
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
October 29 2011 20:20 GMT
#18
The NA numbers, do they count the accounts from the merged latin-american server?

Also, pretty shitty results for SC2.
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
October 29 2011 20:22 GMT
#19
Those are really small decreases in player count for a 1yr old game. Some decrease is to be expected, but the overall playerpool seems to remain remarkably stable. Good stuff.
Such flammable little insects!
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
October 29 2011 20:26 GMT
#20
On October 30 2011 05:00 Icekommander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 04:55 Zzzapper wrote:
The decrease in Chinese players is quite worrying. Over 50% of the players gone from s2. That's really many. I don-t think the numbers on the other servers are very bad though... 6-8% really isn't that many



More or less the same thing has already happened to the other regions already. It would/will be considerably more worrying if the suffer a similar drop from seasons 3 to 4. Also good to see Korea growing. I never realised that they had significantly less players than the other regions though.

There are significantly less people who live in SK...
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