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ruffstyle89
41 Posts
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
On January 30 2012 11:48 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: Zelthcon is one strange dude. (especially if you read him trying to defend himself here and other threads). Twisted mind. He even had a joke regarding results disagree in his sig, haha. The guy is just a dickweed, seriously. Being in "Mixed Fruit" before all this was found out he used to log on and start begging for people to go to this website he made and click on ads so he could make money. Offering coaching for $10 an hour at low masters and nothing to show for himself (from what ive heard, telling people he would give them a "date"..sure.) Fuck the guy, wholeheartedly. He is a waste of space, bummed out college dropout with nothing better to do. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10382 Posts
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
Recently someone posted a thread asking if they thought the game they played was against a maphacker due to their preternatural timing in being prepared for 3 of 3 of the drops, and having the perfect counters (stalkers waiting, etc). People watched the replay, and said he wasn't hacking because he never looked at the opponent's base. I took a close look at it, knowing that new maphacks have a button where it 'freezes' the player cam so when watched in a replay, it looks like they aren't looking, but in reality they are checking your base or whatever out. It was pretty obvious, as both players had about the same 78 APM, yet when you looked at Terrans POV, he was super fast spazzing everywhere, whereas the hacker had many, long bouts where he just was 'doing nothing' - the hack stops the cam and makes it look like your afk, but the APM is still registered, and it was obvious when he went from a current 100 APM to 2-4 APM suddenly. He also made some blatant decisions that completely countered what the opponent did. But because no one knew how maphacks worked, they just assumed it was a legit game because the guy never directly looked at the opponents base in fog of war. But it was obviously maphack when both players had 80 average APM and one guy was just playing wayyyy slower and had times when his cam just froze. Camera just not moving anymore is usually a good indication of this newer maphack. The thread got closed by a mod before my long drawn out post could've been posted. There's all sorts of hacks out there for SC2, and there's a lot of undetectable maphacks and such now that don't alter the game at all, instead running as background programs. I have a feeling there is some kind of hack where u see a production tab on the screen like in replays. I had a granmaster last season on my team in 3v3 and he said what the other team was doing without any scouting on our part. And I watched rep he didnt move his camera around opponents bases or anything like that. Yep, there is. There's a couple of them that do that now. They show what's in production, unit counts, everything, just like watching the game through replay. You don't need to be a hacker to google "sc2 hacks" and see what's out there. | ||
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Adventurekid
Sweden505 Posts
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Jayson X
Switzerland2431 Posts
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ReboundEU
508 Posts
What we can hope is that Blizzard knows & works on discovering/banning new hacks/people. Considering this is the bigest e-sport game atm, and blizzard is known for throwing out good quality + reputation + etc. i think they really take things like this seriously and invest alot in discovering/banning them. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
Haven't seen this myself to be honest, I wonder if the losses still affect your MMR. I think it's just something you have to report and forget about though, move on to the next game. | ||
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ReboundEU
508 Posts
LoL is the WoW of the esports world. Easy to learn...so alot play it. Some e-sport games have work, dedication, blood&tears behind them. Others have ..........well just mass numbers. Quality vs Quantity ....that's SC2 vs LoL ethernal dispute i guess :D | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On January 30 2012 21:11 Clarity_nl wrote: ^ I would argue that LoL is biggest right now, although maybe not as dedicated, not do I want it to be. Haven't seen this myself to be honest, I wonder if the losses still affect your MMR. I think it's just something you have to report and forget about though, move on to the next game. yea but youll never see LoL players attending MLG's like SC2 players, its alot more casual friendly like someone already mentioned. You might be willing to watch it on stream for free but your not going to spend any money on it and so no ones going to make it a headline event anywhere | ||
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Korr
United States5 Posts
On January 30 2012 21:14 ReboundEU wrote: LoL is the bigest because it's free + not as much skill and dedication goes into it as SC2 does...were just 1 person has to move from 1 side of the planet..to the other..leaving their loved ones..families.."overal world they knew" just to get better at a game , don't u think? Last time i heard LoL players practiced 4h/day for a tournament...that made me go LoL. LoL is the WoW of the esports world. Easy to learn...so alot play it. Some e-sport games have work, dedication, blood&tears behind them. Others have ..........well just mass numbers. Quality vs Quantity ....that's SC2 vs LoL ethernal dispute i guess :D /Agree I don't really consider LoL a serious eSport, and the fact that they have a 5 mil prize pool for Season 2, I think that some of the Pro's should just take their free time to training in LoL, make some good cash for some easy work  Not really dissing LoL, just Starcraft players train over twice as long a day, and so much harder, the dedication in Starcraft is intense, The SC scene needs more money in it imo | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10382 Posts
Anyways do LoL players have salaries? Not like starcraft teams right? So even if the prizes are huge I would say that starcraft is much bigger. Like others said, quality over quantity. SC2 is fun to watch, LoL isn't. LoL is easy to learn, easy to master. SC2 is easy to learn hard to master. | ||
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Kerwin
United States220 Posts
On October 24 2011 20:02 inCyde wrote: in replay gametime: 9:33 after the game: 9:31 is this normal? Completely normal... the game ended at 9:31 and you left the game (i.e. stopped recording) 2 seconds later at 9:33. If you decided to not leave the game after he left and destroy all his buildings (I do that from time to time) then your replay will be much longer. | ||
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ruffstyle89
41 Posts
Actually, right now there are almost none. Free wise there is only 1 out there, and it sounds like it is very buggy. Because its free, anyone who hacks uses it. It has the obs panel as well as mh and cam lock so for a very basic free hack it works. Anyone who wants a real hack needs to buy VC or wait for Sharp to be updated. It was free, and had the same stuff vc has. However, it did get detected within months of its first release, so most will think twice before using it again. The guy who stopped his was the only MH that was free and has been out for long time and nobody ever got banned for it. The rest do inject and eventually can/will be detectable. Any other out there is private/pay 2 use. They range from like $50 or more. The most common is VC's map hack, which is 60 dollars. It has pretty much everything you can imagine. Cam lock, map, obs panal, auto burrow on roaches, auto mule, auto queen ejects, and I think auto blink. This was cracked 2-3 times, but lately hasn't been able to. He has made over 20,000 dollars off this so a lot use it. Cranix and Artek are also pay to use. Artek is the better option as it sounds like the others guy is just mh/cam lock. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10382 Posts
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ruffstyle89
41 Posts
From one guy posting to the guy who stopped his. "Court Description: JUDGMENT by Judge Cormac J. Carney, in favor of Blizzard Entertainment Inc against Michael Simpson a/k/a “Matt Cooper”, “Cranix” and “Cranyx” in the principal amount of $150,000.00, interest in the amount of $0.00, attorneys fees of $41,792.75, costs of $3,645.21 for a total judgment of $195,437.96. I still make a maphack, still have a website and I haven't paid Blizzard a fucking penny. God Bless Canada " From the other person "Maybe they only contact people they can get personal information on and preferably those in the USA where they are likely to have more legal ground. I have been mentioned already as an identity unknown to them but goes by the alias 'Zynastor'. Or maybe I am just protected like I said with my underground connections. " | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10382 Posts
also, lol "matt cooper" like from the balancing team So the first one is from canada right? How did he lose a court case but not have to pay? Is the legal system really that week? I don't understand that, even if he is from canada, but he was able to be sued and lost the case, that he can still get away with it? | ||
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ruffstyle89
41 Posts
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Torpedo.Vegas
United States1890 Posts
Then drop some quote from the in-game chat like "I feel so naughty, I can see all your unmentionable things without scouting." or "I bet if I put this here, there isn't a damn thing you could do about it." Stuff like that. | ||
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edzwoo
United States469 Posts
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