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deathr0w
Profile Joined January 2011
United States114 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 05:50:31
September 26 2011 05:49 GMT
#41
Icons of Vanity was Just4Fame before they merged with another team. Then they picked up a Counter-Strike:Source team named Icons of Vanity who are French Canadian and switched names I believe. Hence the name being "odd". I was with them for Quake Live but left a bit ago. Good team, GL! <3Silent
What do you do if your opponent does something weird? Go fucking kill him - Day[9]
greatZERG
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia755 Posts
September 26 2011 05:51 GMT
#42
On September 26 2011 13:38 munchmunch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2011 13:19 julianto wrote:
On September 26 2011 09:43 ~Maverick~ wrote:
On September 26 2011 09:40 Polskaa wrote:
On September 26 2011 09:35 Gatsbi wrote:
What an awful name.. wtf?

Are you saying your players are vain?


Im not sure what you mean.


Vanity, or being vain does not generally have a positive connotation, so he is confused as to why an organization would name itself that.

If you don't have a problem with "Evil Geniuses", why would you have a problem with "Icons of Vanity"?

Really? Granted, "Evil Geniuses" does depend on an ironic use of the word "Evil", and I'm guessing "Icons of Vanity" is intended ironically. But the ironic use of the word "Evil" is fairly common in the English language, and follows the very common custom where words with very negative literal meanings are used ironically (ie. sick, bad, insane, wicked). In contrast, "Vanity" is rarely used in an ironic sense---I can't think of a single other instance of ironic usage---and doesn't really have a negative enough meaning to be in the company of words like "wicked" and the others mentioned above.


You and I can be friends.

In the case of Evil Geniuses, the name is meant to conjure the idea of the brilliant yet nefarious icons of 60s/70s comic book and pop culture. It's a bit tongue in cheek, they're saying they are brilliant but a bit on the evil side.

Icons of Vanity doesn't work in the same way. There's nothing good about being Vain and thus being an Icon of Vanity means that you are the ultimate example of something bad? I am picturing some sort of chapstick-laden, lip pouting guido in front of his monitor scratching nervously at his diamond earring as he waits for the game to start --not really an impressive or serious image.

A better name would have been something funnier like Expression of Vanity, it's saying hey, we're vain and awesome and it's going to show through in every game we take off your team.

My 2c
stu >)
GrimOni
Profile Joined February 2011
United States60 Posts
September 26 2011 08:58 GMT
#43
I saw BigBirdY on Lobber's stream a few weeks ago, he looked good! Good luck at Orlando!
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
September 26 2011 08:59 GMT
#44
Awesome, never really heard of any of the players but I do love me some more eSports.
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
Foster3000
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada4 Posts
September 27 2011 15:51 GMT
#45
I love the style of iovPolskA
hes such a gambler at times!

good luck to this new organization
gogogo esports!
2600+ Sliver Zerg. Just starting out streaming, Welcome to all help on my game and willing to give a little advice for the new players.
sc2trainer
Profile Joined August 2011
63 Posts
September 27 2011 16:27 GMT
#46
who the heck are these players?
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
September 27 2011 16:35 GMT
#47
Love seeing new teams. Even with the weird name, I like the IOV before names.

Best of luck at MLG!
Phixx
Profile Joined June 2011
2 Posts
September 27 2011 16:37 GMT
#48
@all comments about name.

The name is about as meaningless as other teams names. Being vain can have a negative connotation, however, being a Genius albeit an Evil one is negative as well but they are still great.

Phixx
Profile Joined June 2011
2 Posts
September 27 2011 16:50 GMT
#49
Oops failed to notice all the other EG relation in this thread. My bads

But go IoV! Can't be killing eSports by creating more competition
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
September 27 2011 16:52 GMT
#50
For some reason I laughed for a while at "WhiteFlash". Hope he can live up to the name.

Team name is pretty random as well, good luck regardless!
souLess419
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada11 Posts
September 30 2011 04:31 GMT
#51
On September 28 2011 00:51 Foster3000 wrote:
I love the style of iovPolskA
hes such a gambler at times!

good luck to this new organization
gogogo esports!



this is fishy.
Go Korea Pwn Noob
Profile Joined September 2011
3 Posts
September 30 2011 04:34 GMT
#52
I ran a google search of the players, and turned up this:

http://www.vvv-gaming.com/forum/user/17950-polska/page__tab__topics

"Having those practise partners. I currently play for the new E-Sports team(icons of vanity), theyre good players alot high masters/GM but our actuall team management is atrocious. The main guys told me the site would be up in May 2011(iovgaming.net) but its not yet. We are also sponsored which is nice, but I'm really after clan wars and such and massively improving my play. This being my first RTS(and never even interested in BW)it was a hard transition from Card games to Real time games, but not only will I benifit from vVv because of their high level players, but personally I think they can benifit from me because I seriously do have intense strategies they can learn from."


Why did Polska undercut Icons of Vanity?

I would assume your not a profession player. To disown your team like that is not right...

Maybe 'Icons of Vanity' should be taken at face value...

Any comments from polska?
Go Korea Pwn Noob
Profile Joined September 2011
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 04:37:15
September 30 2011 04:35 GMT
#53
Icons of Vanity bad name, pwn noob.
ranjutan
Profile Joined November 2010
United States636 Posts
September 30 2011 04:40 GMT
#54
How can you nickname yourselves "Kings of Gaming" before you've existed long enough to become champions of anything?
http://i53.tinypic.com/1r3j0p.gif
lastGame
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada26 Posts
September 30 2011 04:46 GMT
#55
On September 26 2011 14:01 munchmunch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2011 13:45 lastGame wrote:
I think he means being vain and calling yourself geniuses has similar implications. Saying youre an evil genius is narcissistic as well.

Anyhow, who cares about the name. Good luck guys, hoping to see some of your names show up in tournies.

Calling yourself vain and calling yourself a genius do not have similar implications. If you call yourself a genius, you are trying to make yourself look good, but everyone will think you are vain. If you call yourself vain, you are trying to make yourself look bad, and what people think of you will depend mostly on the context (like in this case, nobody knows what it means). But no matter what the context, people are unlikely to think that you are vain just because you are calling yourself vain.

That said, I don't dislike the name all that much. I take it as poking fun at the whole star system of e-sports. As in, "Here we are, ready to put ourselves forward and struggle for fame and glory. Aren't we icons of vanity." But there's no doubt the name is fairly obscure; I'm not really sure that my reading is what was intended.

Edit: clarity.


Hey, If you read what i wrote, I said being vain and calling yourself a genius has similar implications not calling yourself vain. Sorry if wasted time arguing against something else.

Either way. I know for sure, BigBirdy and Usurp will do well and i saw some amazing games from Ember as well.
Bananas
Russano
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
September 30 2011 04:46 GMT
#56
On September 30 2011 13:40 ranjutan wrote:
How can you nickname yourselves "Kings of Gaming" before you've existed long enough to become champions of anything?


Obviously, because they are Icons of Vanity. derp.
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