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preZzle
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany223 Posts
September 20 2011 21:09 GMT
#81
thank god sGty didnt sign the contract from virus gaming...

well that clearly sucks for Naama, but i think his perfomance wasnt (or not only) bad because of this drama, i heard he lacked training after his dreamhack win...

well since he was and still is a great player i only whish him the best!
SC.Shifty
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada135 Posts
September 20 2011 22:42 GMT
#82
Did anyone think he was talking about ST_Virus? I sure did
We require more MINERAWLZZzz.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 22:46:48
September 20 2011 22:43 GMT
#83
Just fyi everyone in France knows Virus is a joke team. We all knew how it was going to end when they recruted all those top players from Finland. Skyboot (the main admin) is extremely weird and has lied many many times about how Virus gets their money. They claim they are sponsored by companies but nobody knows which and if it is even true. They also claimed that the majority of the money was coming from poker players (?). Finally Naama, Satiini, Elfi left the team because they realized how much of a joke this team is. Their manager (Zoultx who is also finish) left way before them when he discovered the whole thing.

Other interesting information : Virus also has a lot of french players like ten or more, nobody knows how they can handle/sponsor them.
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 22:45:35
September 20 2011 22:44 GMT
#84
french laws are fucked up. period.

edit: old eswc, virus, and M all take advantage of these fucked up laws to try and detract from this new and up-and-coming industry we all cherish. they would be 'killing ESPORTS' except we're still rocking the scene pretty hard
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Pimpmuckl
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany528 Posts
September 20 2011 22:46 GMT
#85
There was a lot of Drama in HoN Competitive Forums about sGty tagging up as Virus and discarded it later with massive Drama towards Virus eSports involved.

Not surprised at all that they dont step up!
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Funkydonky
Profile Joined April 2011
950 Posts
September 20 2011 22:55 GMT
#86
On September 21 2011 07:44 nath wrote:
french laws are fucked up. period.

edit: old eswc, virus, and M all take advantage of these fucked up laws to try and detract from this new and up-and-coming industry we all cherish. they would be 'killing ESPORTS' except we're still rocking the scene pretty hard


what does millenium and french laws have anything do with this situation ?

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SgtPepper
Profile Joined November 2010
United States568 Posts
September 20 2011 23:52 GMT
#87
Wow, this really sucks for Naama. He never should have left Mouz though.
"After I reconquer Ba Sing Se, I'm going to reconquer my tea shop! And I'm going to play Pai Sho every day."
Sukari
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia183 Posts
September 20 2011 23:55 GMT
#88
I was thinking the Korean player for a sec.. haha interesting stuff though.
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canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
September 21 2011 00:45 GMT
#89
On September 21 2011 07:55 hrvoje07 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 07:44 nath wrote:
french laws are fucked up. period.

edit: old eswc, virus, and M all take advantage of these fucked up laws to try and detract from this new and up-and-coming industry we all cherish. they would be 'killing ESPORTS' except we're still rocking the scene pretty hard


what does millenium and french laws have anything do with this situation ?


He's not talking about this situation. He's talking about the French-involved situations.
mazqo
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland368 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 08:31:47
September 21 2011 08:30 GMT
#90
About naama leaving mouz: Naama got sick salary from virus and most of it got paid so i think it was worth it and there are some players in Virus at who gets 10 times the salary they should get, tho dunno if they are getting paid anymore.
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
September 21 2011 09:25 GMT
#91
Virus may be a joke, and i think they are, but there's simple not enough money in "e-sports". Every player in the Top 100 in Europe (it's probably the same thing in America) feels entitled to get paid to play. Sadly, all the clans and structures decided to jump into the e-sport "hype" bandwagon, because they were too scared of losing all their players to more ambitious (read: delusional) investors. Wages augmented a lot, while the sponsors money augmented just a little.

Think about this, Stephano got offered a CDD official contract, that means he's getting at least 1100 euros. For Millenium, with the charges of a real contact, he costs them 2000 euros. An old manager from Virus said that the better finnish player (Naama, Satiini maybe?) had a 1000 euros/month agreement. So, being super-conservative, a TOP20 EU player must win, in average, something like 1000 euros; A TOP50 to Top20 something like 500 and the TOP 100 to Top50 like 200 euros, + goodies for all of them. That's at least 45.000 euros per month in salaries. Probably, it's way more than that. Do you really believe there's so much money, now, in SC2?

There's a lot to blame to Virus, but Kévin (lol, how could you trust someone called Kévin) is not a bad guy, he's just a delusional speculator trying to hit it big thanks to SC2. It seems he's paying the salaries of his team with Poker gains, waiting for a huge sponsoring contract... instead, he's getting ruined.

The bubble just needs to burst.
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
obsKura
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland1061 Posts
September 22 2011 21:12 GMT
#92
Sad story. All the best to Naama, would love to see more of him.

Hey Naama, maybe start streaming again and gain some money from the ads. We'd love to help you out.
C9 ~^v^~ In EE-sama we trust. ~^v^~ C9
Namu
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
September 22 2011 21:16 GMT
#93
french e-sports gaining some bad rep recently...
first millenium/stephano situation now this.
hope it all gets sorted out, else it'll seem like the entire e-sports scene is not as credible as before.
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