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Pit667
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland130 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 12:58:16
May 19 2012 12:57 GMT
#881
NaDa, Boxer, Oov and Flash !!
ps.Hard to pick just one.
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Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
May 19 2012 13:02 GMT
#882
Funny how when 3/4 players in the semis are protoss people complain that T has no chance vP - yet the only terran manages to win.
That being said, MVP played really well Still don't know if I'd personally rate him higher than MKP
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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 13:47:52
May 19 2012 13:10 GMT
#883
Terran Emperor = BoxeR
Terran God = Flash
Terran Genius = NaDa
Terran Monster = Oov
Terran King = MVP
Terran Kong = MKP (still no GSLs )
Terran Prince = MMA
Terran Stripper = FBH

edit: forgot Terran Terrorist = Fantasy
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45248 Posts
May 19 2012 13:13 GMT
#884
On May 19 2012 22:10 Telcontar wrote:
Terran Emperor = BoxeR
Terran God = Flash
Terran Genius = NaDa
Terran Monster = Oov
Terran King = MVP
Terran Kong = MKP (still no GSLs )
Terran Prince = MMA
Terran Stripper = FBH


This is perfect :D
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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
May 19 2012 13:29 GMT
#885
It is and always has been the same answer: MVP by far.
No other Terran ever was close to him. (yeah he lost to MMA and other Terrans were good as well in the past, but there have been 2players yet that somewhat dominated and those were Nestea and MVP, all others are extremly up and down)
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
May 19 2012 13:43 GMT
#886
On May 19 2012 22:10 Telcontar wrote:
Terran Emperor = BoxeR
God = Flash
Terran Genius = NaDa
Terran Monster = Oov
Terran King = MVP
Terran Kong = MKP (still no GSLs )
Terran Prince = MMA
Terran Stripper = FBH


Made a slight fix for you :D
althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
May 19 2012 13:52 GMT
#887
MVP is obviously the King.

/Thread.

Oh, it's because he knows what champions know that regular folks don't: How to win!

Seriously though: MKP is the most skilled SC2 Terran pro though, but MVP is mentally stronger and has better in-game tactical decision making (on average, not always).
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
May 19 2012 13:59 GMT
#888
Nada still the best in everything he tries.

People maybe forget, but the Flash-Jaedong duo was in the historical shadow of Nada for a long time, standing up there unreachable above anybody else.
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TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 14:02:28
May 19 2012 14:01 GMT
#889
On May 19 2012 22:52 althaz wrote:
MVP is obviously the King.

/Thread.

Oh, it's because he knows what champions know that regular folks don't: How to win!

Seriously though: MKP is the most skilled SC2 Terran pro though, but MVP is mentally stronger and has better in-game tactical decision making (on average, not always).


I totally agree. MKP is mechanically (micro, macro) the best SC2 player right now. But he gives too many games away. MVP knows how to win and has good enough mechanics (even now with his wrist injury) to be able to execute what is necessay. Until the players, that are mechanically much stronger than him, learn to make fewer mistakes, he will be the King of SC2.
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
May 19 2012 14:04 GMT
#890
mkp is not mechanically sound when you compare him to, let's say, MMA
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zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
May 19 2012 14:06 GMT
#891
If MVP had a chance to practice as half as much as these guys, this would never even be a discussion, IMO
NiteWatch
Profile Joined January 2012
Indonesia58 Posts
May 19 2012 14:07 GMT
#892
MVP of course, he just won his 4th gel title in even though pvt is slightly imba atm
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CluEleSs_UK
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom583 Posts
May 19 2012 15:58 GMT
#893
On May 19 2012 23:04 ThePlayer33 wrote:
mkp is not mechanically sound when you compare him to, let's say, MMA


That's 100% not true.
"If it turns out he is leaving the ESL to focus on cooking crystal meth I'll agree that it is somewhat disgraceful, but I'll hold off judgement until then."
consonance
Profile Joined April 2011
31 Posts
May 19 2012 16:01 GMT
#894
MKP has one of the best terran micro i have ever seen. But, MVP has better macro and has great micro too. So I'll have to say MVP.
ppshchik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States862 Posts
May 19 2012 16:07 GMT
#895
MVP for sure, and he will still be the best Terran in SC2 for a long time after the BW pro switch.

MVP got into RO8 in MSL after beating the 2 best PvT'ers (Stork and Best), 2-0'ed Baby, and lost 1-3 to Flash. Nobody knew how good he would be in Broodwar had he stayed. He had great mechanics even by Broodwar standards back then and his understanding of SC2 from his experience will keep him in his throne for a much longer time.
Legends never die... they end up working in McDonalds.
sorrowptoss
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1431 Posts
May 19 2012 16:16 GMT
#896
MKP.
Though I am not 100% sure.
If there is a Terran King anyhow, he would be Korean without a doubt.
kamkerx
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States264 Posts
May 19 2012 16:23 GMT
#897
you forgot to put me up there?
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 16:31:39
May 19 2012 16:30 GMT
#898
MVP, MKP, and Bomber all have incredible talent. But mkp and bomber crack under pressure. Both of them drop mules before the game is over and play with far too much emotion. MVP is a champion and like all champions he has the ability to detach from the game and always bring his best. 4 championships should give him the confidence to be the top player for years to come.

He totally outplayed squirtle. Anyone using the game to say anything about balance is sorely mistaken. The only thing OP is MVP.
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CaptainCharisma
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand808 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 16:39:59
May 19 2012 16:37 GMT
#899
I am still unsure as to who is currently best out of MVP and MKP after MVP's comeback from wrist problems. No doubt winning code S is huge, but you only have to defeat, what five or six opponents? There is a good chance that you won't even be tested against your weakest match-up.

I would like to see MKP and MVP fight it out. TvT is MKP's weakest match-up I feel, but that's mainly because his others are so strong! I actually have no persuasion either way as to who would win that TvT. I want to see it.

MVP's TvP looks very fragile, whereas I feel MKP has the best handle on that match-up in the world. MVP relies on cheese or unorthodox build orders to catch players off guard. MKP pressures like crazy in the mid game to take a late game lead and finish it off. That is apparently how TvP should be played, and he is the best.

We haven't seen MVP play a TvZ in a while owing to the nature of the GSL format. MKP's TvZ on the other hand is scary; he gives DRG plenty of trouble every time they meet.

I'm leaning towards giving MKP a slight edge as best Terran at the moment. But things can change in a matter of weeks. Hopefully we see MVP at some foreign events so he can get more exposure - and possibly prove that he IS the best.
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rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
May 19 2012 16:55 GMT
#900
On May 19 2012 22:10 Telcontar wrote:
Terran Emperor = BoxeR
Terran God = Flash
Terran Genius = NaDa
Terran Monster = Oov
Terran King = MVP
Terran Kong = MKP (still no GSLs )
Terran Prince = MMA
Terran Stripper = FBH

edit: forgot Terran Terrorist = Fantasy


Fantasy is the original Terran Prince.
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