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On September 11 2011 14:07 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2011 13:53 rysecake wrote:On September 11 2011 13:26 snafoo wrote:On September 11 2011 13:23 Mortal wrote:On September 11 2011 12:24 rysecake wrote:On September 11 2011 12:23 Mortal wrote:On September 11 2011 11:51 lee365 wrote: MarineKing in 2nd as always.... It's fanboys, he's not nearly the second best terran (Bomber, Boxer, MMA, TOP, hate to say it, Polt, PuMa, etc.) You think boxer > mkp? Bro code B =/= ...i lost count how many times he's gotten 2nd place now LOL As of late I think Boxer is outperforming MKP by far (MLG, GSL All-Star Games) MKP got further in Code A then Boxer did, Boxer got crushed by Leenock whilst MKP crushed Leenock... Allstar games were a showmatch, what does that have to do with anything? :S plus mkp hasn't even gone overseas yet. Mkp's achievements still outshine boxer by far. Idk why people still underrate him so much If anything, MKP is overrated, not underrated. (See: poll.) MKP was undeniably a top five Terran a few months back, but he's dropped off lately in terms of performance; even his games in Code A have been shaky, and I would definitely say that Polt (still underrated ...) has overshot him in terms of play and skill lately. He's still better than Boxer, though. Ranking players is difficult, though. I'd break it up into match-ups, but even then it's hard to tell. After MVP and Bomber (interchangeable) in TvT, you just descend into the murky waters of TOP/Polt/NaDa/Puma/Byun/SlayerS/others. TvZ is a little clearer; MVP, followed by MMA, and then TOP/sC/Bomber/Jjakji/others. TvP is probably the easiest to rank: Polt, Bomber, and Puma are all top-notch TvPers (in that order), and then you have players like Taeja and Jjakji, who haven't quite proven themselves yet, but who have very promising TvP plays nonetheless. And, of course, MVP, who's fixed up his TvP lately.
great post, yeah like others said it's pretty much MVP then Bomber then a bunch of other Terrans behind them.
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On September 11 2011 13:53 rysecake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2011 13:26 snafoo wrote:On September 11 2011 13:23 Mortal wrote:On September 11 2011 12:24 rysecake wrote:On September 11 2011 12:23 Mortal wrote:On September 11 2011 11:51 lee365 wrote: MarineKing in 2nd as always.... It's fanboys, he's not nearly the second best terran (Bomber, Boxer, MMA, TOP, hate to say it, Polt, PuMa, etc.) You think boxer > mkp? Bro code B =/= ...i lost count how many times he's gotten 2nd place now LOL As of late I think Boxer is outperforming MKP by far (MLG, GSL All-Star Games) MKP got further in Code A then Boxer did, Boxer got crushed by Leenock whilst MKP crushed Leenock... Allstar games were a showmatch, what does that have to do with anything? :S plus mkp hasn't even gone overseas yet. Mkp's achievements still outshine boxer by far. Idk why people still underrate him so much Actually he has, CPL, and he won it (Sase second and QXC third). And why would someone ever bring up the all star games? MKP played protoss in them. Not to mention Boxer only won because July threw the game away trying to be entertaining.
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God Tier: IMMvp, ST_Bomber Top Tier: MarineKingPrime.WE, oGs.TOP, PoltPrime.WE, SlayerS_MMA, EGPuma Mid Tier: oGs.NaDa, SlayerS_Ryung, SlayerS_Taeja, MakaPrime.WE, IMYoDa, MVPsC, ZeNEXByun, SlayerS_Ganzi, FXOqxc, TSL_Clide, mouzThorZaIN Low Tier: MVPKeen, SlayerS_BoxeR, oGs.Ensnare, dignitas.SjoW, IMFenix, MVPNoblesse, ST_Virus, IMHappy, oGs.SuperNoVa, NSHSJjakji, dignitas.SeleCT, fnatic.Rain, EGDeMusliM, coL.Drewbie Trash Tier: ZeNEXHack, FXOTheBest, sixjax.dde, dignitas.meRz, fnatic.KawaiiRice
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^ there can only be 1 god. this ain't ancient egypt
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TheBest is on a tier above God.
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On September 11 2011 14:17 Xpace wrote: God Tier: IMMvp, ST_Bomber Top Tier: MarineKingPrime.WE, oGs.TOP, PoltPrime.WE, SlayerS_MMA, EGPuma Mid Tier: oGs.NaDa, SlayerS_Ryung, SlayerS_Taeja, MakaPrime.WE, IMYoDa, MVPsC, ZeNEXByun, SlayerS_Ganzi, FXOqxc, TSL_Clide, mouzThorZaIN Low Tier: MVPKeen, SlayerS_BoxeR, oGs.Ensnare, dignitas.SjoW, IMFenix, MVPNoblesse, ST_Virus, IMHappy, oGs.SuperNoVa, NSHSJjakji, dignitas.SeleCT, fnatic.Rain, EGDeMusliM, coL.Drewbie Trash Tier: ZeNEXHack, FXOTheBest, sixjax.dde, dignitas.meRz, fnatic.KawaiiRice you srs? makaprime above boxer?
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If you make a poll right after + Show Spoiler +IM MVP wins the GSL finals he's obviously going to get the most votes.
That said, he probably is the Terran King. Really consistent results.
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i personally don't think the list needs to go TOO deep
God Tier: IMMvp
God's Best Friend Who Isn't Quite As Good As God: ST_Bomber
Top Tier: SlayerS_MMA, SlayerS_GanZi, SlayerS_Ryung, EGPuMa, OptimusPrime.WE, and now adding oGs.TOP to the list
MKP is floating between not worth mentioning in comparison to the above players, and barely making it into Top Tier lately, but you never know, he's back in Code S so we'll see how it goes.
The rest just honestly don't matter as of yet.
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On September 11 2011 14:17 Xpace wrote: God Tier: IMMvp, ST_Bomber Top Tier: MarineKingPrime.WE, oGs.TOP, PoltPrime.WE, SlayerS_MMA, EGPuma Mid Tier: oGs.NaDa, SlayerS_Ryung, SlayerS_Taeja, MakaPrime.WE, IMYoDa, MVPsC, ZeNEXByun, SlayerS_Ganzi, FXOqxc, TSL_Clide, mouzThorZaIN Low Tier: MVPKeen, SlayerS_BoxeR, oGs.Ensnare, dignitas.SjoW, IMFenix, MVPNoblesse, ST_Virus, IMHappy, oGs.SuperNoVa, NSHSJjakji, dignitas.SeleCT, fnatic.Rain, EGDeMusliM, coL.Drewbie Trash Tier: ZeNEXHack, FXOTheBest, sixjax.dde, dignitas.meRz, fnatic.KawaiiRice
ZenexHack or Thebest would both crush Drewbie and probably Demuslim depending on his current condition. Also I'm not sure Qxc is over Boxer because of one all kill.
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On September 11 2011 14:20 rysecake wrote: ^ there can only be 1 god. this ain't ancient egypt Stop forcing your belief system on others. 
Kidding aside, I'd definitely put MVP over Bomber simply because of MVP's results. That being said, Bomber's a really weird case. He's shown that he has the capacity to beat pretty much everyone in the GSL (e.g. MVP, MC, DRG, Ryung, Losira, Polt, MMA, etc.), which is why people are so impressed with him, but at the same time, he's shown that he can lose to almost anyone who's relatively decent (Moon, Byun, and Keen being the very notable ones).
Still, his play is definitely god-tier when he's on the ball. If I had to describe him, I'd probably say that he's MVP's genius but insane cousin.
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On September 11 2011 14:33 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2011 14:20 rysecake wrote: ^ there can only be 1 god. this ain't ancient egypt Stop forcing your belief system on others.  Kidding aside, I'd definitely put MVP over Bomber simply because of MVP's results. That being said, Bomber's a really weird case. He's shown that he has the capacity to beat pretty much everyone in the GSL (e.g. MVP, MC, DRG, Ryung, Losira, Polt, MMA, etc.), which is why people are so impressed with him, but at the same time, he's shown that he can lose to almost anyone who's relatively decent (Moon, Byun, and Keen being the very notable ones). Still, his play is definitely god-tier when he's on the ball. If I had to describe him, I'd probably say that he's MVP's genius but insane cousin.
Your post is exactly the reason I haven't bought into bomber yet really. Thanks! He has shown himself capable of taking down top players, but hasn't put up the results, nor shown the consistency. I just don't get that "invincible" feeling from him that I do from mvp. Like you said, he loses very often to people who you wouldn't expect him to. Definitely a top tier terran, but no where near the level of mvp yet. Not until he proves himself at least (win championships/not lose to low-mid tier players).
Bombers tvz in particular seems very frail compared to mvp's. Though bomber does have better tvp (but im seeing rapid improvement from mvp in this department lately).
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On September 11 2011 14:38 rysecake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2011 14:33 babylon wrote:On September 11 2011 14:20 rysecake wrote: ^ there can only be 1 god. this ain't ancient egypt Stop forcing your belief system on others.  Kidding aside, I'd definitely put MVP over Bomber simply because of MVP's results. That being said, Bomber's a really weird case. He's shown that he has the capacity to beat pretty much everyone in the GSL (e.g. MVP, MC, DRG, Ryung, Losira, Polt, MMA, etc.), which is why people are so impressed with him, but at the same time, he's shown that he can lose to almost anyone who's relatively decent (Moon, Byun, and Keen being the very notable ones). Still, his play is definitely god-tier when he's on the ball. If I had to describe him, I'd probably say that he's MVP's genius but insane cousin. Your post is exactly the reason I haven't bought into bomber yet really. Thanks! He has shown himself capable of taking down top players, but hasn't put up the results, nor shown the consistency. I just don't get that "invincible" feeling from him that I do from mvp. Like you said, he loses very often to people who you wouldn't expect him to. Definitely a top tier terran, but no where near the level of mvp yet. Not until he proves himself at least (win championships/not lose to low-mid tier players). Bombers tvz in particular seems very frail compared to mvp's. Though bomber does have better tvp (but im seeing rapid improvement from mvp in this department lately). Bomber's TvZ baffles me. He's lost to people like Moon before, so I'd pretty much given up on his TvZ by then, but then come MLG, he thrashed DRG so hard it wasn't even funny aside from the BM. I would even argue that he crushed DRG harder than MVP did by putting himself behind so much before catching up and proceeding to walk all over him.
Meanwhile, MVP's TvP has gotten better, but I've recently only seen him play a BO1 against a slumping MC and that series against Huk that shall not be mentioned. So, at the moment, I'd probably put MVP's TvP on the same level as Bomber's TvZ. They're both improving incredibly fast though.
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On September 11 2011 14:17 Xpace wrote: God Tier: IMMvp, ST_Bomber Top Tier: MarineKingPrime.WE, oGs.TOP, PoltPrime.WE, SlayerS_MMA, EGPuma Mid Tier: oGs.NaDa, SlayerS_Ryung, SlayerS_Taeja, MakaPrime.WE, IMYoDa, MVPsC, ZeNEXByun, SlayerS_Ganzi, FXOqxc, TSL_Clide, mouzThorZaIN Low Tier: MVPKeen, SlayerS_BoxeR, oGs.Ensnare, dignitas.SjoW, IMFenix, MVPNoblesse, ST_Virus, IMHappy, oGs.SuperNoVa, NSHSJjakji, dignitas.SeleCT, fnatic.Rain, EGDeMusliM, coL.Drewbie Trash Tier: ZeNEXHack, FXOTheBest, sixjax.dde, dignitas.meRz, fnatic.KawaiiRice
i dont know how u came up with trash tier theory. But isnt it a little too harsh?
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On September 11 2011 15:16 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2011 14:38 rysecake wrote:On September 11 2011 14:33 babylon wrote:On September 11 2011 14:20 rysecake wrote: ^ there can only be 1 god. this ain't ancient egypt Stop forcing your belief system on others.  Kidding aside, I'd definitely put MVP over Bomber simply because of MVP's results. That being said, Bomber's a really weird case. He's shown that he has the capacity to beat pretty much everyone in the GSL (e.g. MVP, MC, DRG, Ryung, Losira, Polt, MMA, etc.), which is why people are so impressed with him, but at the same time, he's shown that he can lose to almost anyone who's relatively decent (Moon, Byun, and Keen being the very notable ones). Still, his play is definitely god-tier when he's on the ball. If I had to describe him, I'd probably say that he's MVP's genius but insane cousin. Your post is exactly the reason I haven't bought into bomber yet really. Thanks! He has shown himself capable of taking down top players, but hasn't put up the results, nor shown the consistency. I just don't get that "invincible" feeling from him that I do from mvp. Like you said, he loses very often to people who you wouldn't expect him to. Definitely a top tier terran, but no where near the level of mvp yet. Not until he proves himself at least (win championships/not lose to low-mid tier players). Bombers tvz in particular seems very frail compared to mvp's. Though bomber does have better tvp (but im seeing rapid improvement from mvp in this department lately). Bomber's TvZ baffles me. He's lost to people like Moon before, so I'd pretty much given up on his TvZ by then, but then come MLG, he thrashed DRG so hard it wasn't even funny aside from the BM. I would even argue that he crushed DRG harder than MVP did by putting himself behind so much before catching up and proceeding to walk all over him. Meanwhile, MVP's TvP has gotten better, but I've recently only seen him play a BO1 against a slumping MC and that series against Huk that shall not be mentioned.  So, at the moment, I'd probably put MVP's TvP on the same level as Bomber's TvZ. They're both improving incredibly fast though.
Bomber has mechanics and multitasking
It's just his style of TvZ was retarded, it's like how MarineKing tried to play TvZ right now.
He just changed up his strategy and is now way way more aggressive than he used to be, using his micro and drops and wins now.
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On September 11 2011 15:18 SafeAsCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2011 15:16 babylon wrote:On September 11 2011 14:38 rysecake wrote:On September 11 2011 14:33 babylon wrote:On September 11 2011 14:20 rysecake wrote: ^ there can only be 1 god. this ain't ancient egypt Stop forcing your belief system on others.  Kidding aside, I'd definitely put MVP over Bomber simply because of MVP's results. That being said, Bomber's a really weird case. He's shown that he has the capacity to beat pretty much everyone in the GSL (e.g. MVP, MC, DRG, Ryung, Losira, Polt, MMA, etc.), which is why people are so impressed with him, but at the same time, he's shown that he can lose to almost anyone who's relatively decent (Moon, Byun, and Keen being the very notable ones). Still, his play is definitely god-tier when he's on the ball. If I had to describe him, I'd probably say that he's MVP's genius but insane cousin. Your post is exactly the reason I haven't bought into bomber yet really. Thanks! He has shown himself capable of taking down top players, but hasn't put up the results, nor shown the consistency. I just don't get that "invincible" feeling from him that I do from mvp. Like you said, he loses very often to people who you wouldn't expect him to. Definitely a top tier terran, but no where near the level of mvp yet. Not until he proves himself at least (win championships/not lose to low-mid tier players). Bombers tvz in particular seems very frail compared to mvp's. Though bomber does have better tvp (but im seeing rapid improvement from mvp in this department lately). Bomber's TvZ baffles me. He's lost to people like Moon before, so I'd pretty much given up on his TvZ by then, but then come MLG, he thrashed DRG so hard it wasn't even funny aside from the BM. I would even argue that he crushed DRG harder than MVP did by putting himself behind so much before catching up and proceeding to walk all over him. Meanwhile, MVP's TvP has gotten better, but I've recently only seen him play a BO1 against a slumping MC and that series against Huk that shall not be mentioned.  So, at the moment, I'd probably put MVP's TvP on the same level as Bomber's TvZ. They're both improving incredibly fast though. Bomber has mechanics and multitasking It's just his style of TvZ was retarded, it's like how MarineKing tried to play TvZ right now. He just changed up his strategy and is now way way more aggressive than he used to be, using his micro and drops and wins now.
I missed out on the most recent mlg and haven't seen bombers tvz since he played nestea. So from my previous exposure, I remembered bomber having a very turtley style, not very harassment based. Idk if that's changed since I haven't watched his tvz in a good amount of time but I don't remember his tvz being that mechanical/multitask heavy (mvp has better tvz micro for sure, dat marine splits. )
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On September 11 2011 14:17 Xpace wrote: God Tier: IMMvp, ST_Bomber Top Tier: MarineKingPrime.WE, oGs.TOP, PoltPrime.WE, SlayerS_MMA, EGPuma Mid Tier: oGs.NaDa, SlayerS_Ryung, SlayerS_Taeja, MakaPrime.WE, IMYoDa, MVPsC, ZeNEXByun, SlayerS_Ganzi, FXOqxc, TSL_Clide, mouzThorZaIN Low Tier: MVPKeen, SlayerS_BoxeR, oGs.Ensnare, dignitas.SjoW, IMFenix, MVPNoblesse, ST_Virus, IMHappy, oGs.SuperNoVa, NSHSJjakji, dignitas.SeleCT, fnatic.Rain, EGDeMusliM, coL.Drewbie Trash Tier: ZeNEXHack, FXOTheBest, sixjax.dde, dignitas.meRz, fnatic.KawaiiRice qxc in mid tier.... no
Bomber is definitely the second best terran. He's incredibly well rounded in all matchups, incredibly smart in picking his builds, and I'm sure everyone would be hesitating to vote for MVP in a rematch. Once the patch goes through and bio mech starts working better his tvt will probably be the best.
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On September 11 2011 14:17 Xpace wrote: God Tier: IMMvp, ST_Bomber Top Tier: MarineKingPrime.WE, oGs.TOP, PoltPrime.WE, SlayerS_MMA, EGPuma Mid Tier: oGs.NaDa, SlayerS_Ryung, SlayerS_Taeja, MakaPrime.WE, IMYoDa, MVPsC, ZeNEXByun, SlayerS_Ganzi, FXOqxc, TSL_Clide, mouzThorZaIN Low Tier: MVPKeen, SlayerS_BoxeR, oGs.Ensnare, dignitas.SjoW, IMFenix, MVPNoblesse, ST_Virus, IMHappy, oGs.SuperNoVa, NSHSJjakji, dignitas.SeleCT, fnatic.Rain, EGDeMusliM, coL.Drewbie Trash Tier: ZeNEXHack, FXOTheBest, sixjax.dde, dignitas.meRz, fnatic.KawaiiRice
this is the silliest post ive read in quite some time. those players most certainly do not belong in any sort of arbitrary 'trash tier'... what the fuck. what did they ever do to deserve that kind of offense
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On September 11 2011 15:24 rysecake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2011 15:18 SafeAsCheese wrote:On September 11 2011 15:16 babylon wrote:On September 11 2011 14:38 rysecake wrote:On September 11 2011 14:33 babylon wrote:On September 11 2011 14:20 rysecake wrote: ^ there can only be 1 god. this ain't ancient egypt Stop forcing your belief system on others.  Kidding aside, I'd definitely put MVP over Bomber simply because of MVP's results. That being said, Bomber's a really weird case. He's shown that he has the capacity to beat pretty much everyone in the GSL (e.g. MVP, MC, DRG, Ryung, Losira, Polt, MMA, etc.), which is why people are so impressed with him, but at the same time, he's shown that he can lose to almost anyone who's relatively decent (Moon, Byun, and Keen being the very notable ones). Still, his play is definitely god-tier when he's on the ball. If I had to describe him, I'd probably say that he's MVP's genius but insane cousin. Your post is exactly the reason I haven't bought into bomber yet really. Thanks! He has shown himself capable of taking down top players, but hasn't put up the results, nor shown the consistency. I just don't get that "invincible" feeling from him that I do from mvp. Like you said, he loses very often to people who you wouldn't expect him to. Definitely a top tier terran, but no where near the level of mvp yet. Not until he proves himself at least (win championships/not lose to low-mid tier players). Bombers tvz in particular seems very frail compared to mvp's. Though bomber does have better tvp (but im seeing rapid improvement from mvp in this department lately). Bomber's TvZ baffles me. He's lost to people like Moon before, so I'd pretty much given up on his TvZ by then, but then come MLG, he thrashed DRG so hard it wasn't even funny aside from the BM. I would even argue that he crushed DRG harder than MVP did by putting himself behind so much before catching up and proceeding to walk all over him. Meanwhile, MVP's TvP has gotten better, but I've recently only seen him play a BO1 against a slumping MC and that series against Huk that shall not be mentioned.  So, at the moment, I'd probably put MVP's TvP on the same level as Bomber's TvZ. They're both improving incredibly fast though. Bomber has mechanics and multitasking It's just his style of TvZ was retarded, it's like how MarineKing tried to play TvZ right now. He just changed up his strategy and is now way way more aggressive than he used to be, using his micro and drops and wins now. I missed out on the most recent mlg and haven't seen bombers tvz since he played nestea. So from my previous exposure, I remembered bomber having a very turtley style, not very harassment based. Idk if that's changed since I haven't watched his tvz in a good amount of time but I don't remember his tvz being that mechanical/multitask heavy (mvp has better tvz micro for sure, dat marine splits. ) One thing I did notice before was that Bomber's TvZ in the past (pre-MLG) was incredibly, dangerously passive. He just ... wouldn't do anything but macro all day, every day. He does harass a bit now, which is a welcome change. But sometimes when he harasses in the early-game, he doesn't follow up on it, and you're just like ... what? (See: BO1 against viOlet, who almost caught back up despite losing a shit ton of drones at the beginning to BFHs. This was also pre-MLG, though.)
If you haven't seen MLG, you should watch Bomber vs. DRG, Game 1 from Raleigh (starting at 24:45). It's really ... something. I'm still not sure what the hell happened. He just bludgeoned DRG into the ground.
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+ Show Spoiler +On September 11 2011 15:28 corpsepose wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2011 14:17 Xpace wrote: God Tier: IMMvp, ST_Bomber Top Tier: MarineKingPrime.WE, oGs.TOP, PoltPrime.WE, SlayerS_MMA, EGPuma Mid Tier: oGs.NaDa, SlayerS_Ryung, SlayerS_Taeja, MakaPrime.WE, IMYoDa, MVPsC, ZeNEXByun, SlayerS_Ganzi, FXOqxc, TSL_Clide, mouzThorZaIN Low Tier: MVPKeen, SlayerS_BoxeR, oGs.Ensnare, dignitas.SjoW, IMFenix, MVPNoblesse, ST_Virus, IMHappy, oGs.SuperNoVa, NSHSJjakji, dignitas.SeleCT, fnatic.Rain, EGDeMusliM, coL.Drewbie Trash Tier: ZeNEXHack, FXOTheBest, sixjax.dde, dignitas.meRz, fnatic.KawaiiRice this is the silliest post ive read in quite some time. those players most certainly do not belong in any sort of arbitrary 'trash tier'... what the fuck. what did they ever do to deserve that kind of offense I agree, those players may not be as good as the very best terrans, but they certainly are extremely good players nonetheless. Insults like those are extremely offensive especially when there are fanclubs for most of them.
In 2-3 hours I will see MVP claim his 3rd GSL win, which will forever secure in my heart his position as the Terran King. That is until Bomber decides to climb from God's best friend who is almost as good as God to God.
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On September 11 2011 14:17 Xpace wrote: God Tier: IMMvp, ST_Bomber Top Tier:, oGs.TOP, PoltPrime.WE, SlayerS_MMA, EGPuma Mid Tier: oGs.NaDa, SlayerS_Ryung, SlayerS_Taeja, MVPsC, SlayerS_Ganzi, TSL_Clide, mouzThorZaIN, MarineKingPrime.WE, NSHSJjakji, dignitas.SeleCT Low Tier: MVPKeen, SlayerS_BoxeR, oGs.Ensnare, dignitas.SjoW, IMFenix, MVPNoblesse, ST_Virus, IMHappy, oGs.SuperNoVa, fnatic.Rain, fnatic.KawaiiRice, ZeNEXHack,MakaPrime.WE Bad Tier: FXOTheBest, FXOqxc, ZeNEXByun, IMYoDa, sixjax.dde Trash Tier: dignitas.meRz, coL.Drewbie, EGDeMusliM,
I did a little fixing for you and added a new tier. qxc... just no. Byun got his puppy so we won't see him doing well anytime soon. Cool people are missing but whatever, I'm just editing your tier list for fun ^^
On September 11 2011 15:17 dde wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2011 14:17 Xpace wrote: God Tier: IMMvp, ST_Bomber Top Tier: MarineKingPrime.WE, oGs.TOP, PoltPrime.WE, SlayerS_MMA, EGPuma Mid Tier: oGs.NaDa, SlayerS_Ryung, SlayerS_Taeja, MakaPrime.WE, IMYoDa, MVPsC, ZeNEXByun, SlayerS_Ganzi, FXOqxc, TSL_Clide, mouzThorZaIN Low Tier: MVPKeen, SlayerS_BoxeR, oGs.Ensnare, dignitas.SjoW, IMFenix, MVPNoblesse, ST_Virus, IMHappy, oGs.SuperNoVa, NSHSJjakji, dignitas.SeleCT, fnatic.Rain, EGDeMusliM, coL.Drewbie Trash Tier: ZeNEXHack, FXOTheBest, sixjax.dde, dignitas.meRz, fnatic.KawaiiRice i dont know how u came up with trash tier theory. But isnt it a little too harsh?
It's done often with tiers, esp "god" tier, "trash" tier, "shit" tier, etc. don't take offense o_O I guess.
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