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Page 26 and onwards I will issue at least two day bans to anyone who clearly has not read the original topic post and the explanations contained therein. He was barred access to the event days before the actual event took place and used some random diamond player his account to try and get in anyway.

Leave the racial bias at the door while you are at it as well pretty please.
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
July 19 2011 16:52 GMT
#1301
On July 20 2011 01:48 Eleaven wrote:
This is easily the worst online community i've seen. the pretending that goes on here.. wow.


Care to elaborate?
bucckevin
Profile Joined April 2011
858 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 16:59:18
July 19 2011 16:56 GMT
#1302
wait..... australia is south east asia? did i fail geography?
Phant
Profile Joined August 2010
United States737 Posts
July 19 2011 16:59 GMT
#1303
I don't know how anyone can back this up, it's all pretty clear in the OP. It was a dick move by Major

He was clearly told that he could not play, but cheated anyway (why he streamed I have no idea). I don't care if it's a "small event", cheating is cheating.
Phant
Profile Joined August 2010
United States737 Posts
July 19 2011 17:00 GMT
#1304
On July 20 2011 01:56 bucckevin wrote:
wait..... australia is south east asia? did i fail geography?


Well it wouldn't be logical to have a server solely for Australia, so they usually group them with SEA since it is closest. (At least I think that's the reasoning behind it).
bucckevin
Profile Joined April 2011
858 Posts
July 19 2011 17:03 GMT
#1305
dumb wording..i can understand the region account grouping but then they go on to say you have to be a southeast asia citizen...
Jt4096
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia78 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 17:08:38
July 19 2011 17:07 GMT
#1306
On July 20 2011 02:00 phant wrote:
Well it wouldn't be logical to have a server solely for Australia, so they usually group them with SEA since it is closest. (At least I think that's the reasoning behind it).


Correct. On release SC2 in Australia was the SEA version. About a month after release, they credited all SEA accounts with a free NA account because parts of the SEA community get better latency to NA (and speak [relatively ] the same language) than to each other.

Edited for typos.
I that am, am, therefore that that is, is.
habeck
Profile Joined February 2011
1120 Posts
July 19 2011 17:20 GMT
#1307
It just shows how stupid Major actually is, streaming and trying to cheat...
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
July 19 2011 17:49 GMT
#1308
On July 20 2011 02:03 bucckevin wrote:
dumb wording..i can understand the region account grouping but then they go on to say you have to be a southeast asia citizen...


The reasoning behind this was to promote the SEA esports scene exclusively.
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ZarMulix
Profile Joined October 2010
United States77 Posts
July 19 2011 18:12 GMT
#1309
On July 20 2011 01:52 Sein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 01:48 Eleaven wrote:
This is easily the worst online community i've seen. the pretending that goes on here.. wow.


Care to elaborate?


I'm also curious about how a lengthy "discussion" about an apparently controversial topic is an indicator of a bad online community. People have opposing views about whether MajOr should be punished or not for his actions, and this naturally leads into discussing smurfing along with protectionism (regionally locked tournaments, league exclusive tournaments, etc).

I find it relieving that the majority feel it's a reprehensible action to enter a tournament under a false identity when told to not enter. Until gaming is taken more seriously by bigger corporations (with lawyers), like MLG, GSL, etc, most of the decisions about how to perceive and punish certain actions will be largely based on the overall morality of the gaming community. It's easy to dismiss bending/breaking rules in small tournaments because there tends to be difficulty in enforcement, as well as relatively small repercussions when considering the risk (or lack of).

I'm pretty sure that the direction in which SC2 is heading will still be largely sponsor based and when it gets to the point where players are signing legal contracts to play in tournaments of all sizes I have no doubt there will be actions taken left and right.

Until then (which is where people realistically see SC2 if it goes "mainstream"), our stances on said actions will be what define the moral grounds upon which players will be judged. Therefore I think it's pretty important that people take a definitive stance on what is acceptable or not, and the discussion of these issues becomes that much more significant in the gaming community.
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
July 20 2011 04:07 GMT
#1310
Quotes from Artosis from State of the Game Episode #44.

"He is a total kid."
"I'm sorry he did it. He's sorry he did it too."
"I can't really get into the inner workings of how we deal with this too deeply, but he has been spoken to and he's going to continue to improve his manner, his skill, all that stuff."
"It's too bad it happened. I'm gonna try to not let it happen again, man."
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
starcraft2rush
Profile Joined February 2011
306 Posts
July 20 2011 08:34 GMT
#1311
On July 20 2011 13:07 DivinO wrote:
Quotes from Artosis from State of the Game Episode #44.

"He is a total kid."
"I'm sorry he did it. He's sorry he did it too."
"I can't really get into the inner workings of how we deal with this too deeply, but he has been spoken to and he's going to continue to improve his manner, his skill, all that stuff."
"It's too bad it happened. I'm gonna try to not let it happen again, man."



Oh wow.

It sounds like Artosis is genuinely sorry about it.

I feel bad for him having to take flak for something major did. He is team captain though, which is one reason I really find Major's actions reprehensible- he casts mud on his teams name. It's not fair to them, but hey they signed him, and they can/should get rid of him if he continues to act so dishonestly/disrespectful to tournament organizers. Especially those willing to put out their own money for a community.
kedinik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States352 Posts
July 20 2011 08:36 GMT
#1312
I dunno, sounded like Artosis was brushing it off as a non-issue.

Basically said "boys will be boys lawl" and left it at that.

But whatever, it's not a huge deal or anything.
dib
Profile Joined July 2011
95 Posts
July 20 2011 08:40 GMT
#1313
majOr hwaiting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
July 20 2011 23:42 GMT
#1314
On July 20 2011 17:36 kedinik wrote:
I dunno, sounded like Artosis was brushing it off as a non-issue.

Basically said "boys will be boys lawl" and left it at that.

But whatever, it's not a huge deal or anything.


Yeah, he said its something they are working on together. It's interesting that this has come up before though with Princess. The manager of sixjax even states that he has spoken with her about her choice of words before. I guess when you are pretty good at the game you get more leeway.




Never make a hydralisk.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
July 20 2011 23:43 GMT
#1315
On July 20 2011 17:36 kedinik wrote:
I dunno, sounded like Artosis was brushing it off as a non-issue.

Basically said "boys will be boys lawl" and left it at that.

But whatever, it's not a huge deal or anything.


well what did you expect him to do? kick major from the team? I mean jesus lol he got talked to and they are working on it idk what more you could want unless you really want him kicked from the team.
When I think of something else, something will go here
enecateReAP
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom378 Posts
July 20 2011 23:45 GMT
#1316
I think it's time people forgot about all this crap and all the drama behind the obvious fact that 'Maj0r is killing e-sports' and focus on his play. It is hard to deny he is one of the best T's outside of Korea, and as dickish as this is, play comes before personality in a gaming community.
"Stargate units imba" - oGsMC
marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
July 20 2011 23:54 GMT
#1317
There is no pro I can think of right now who I dislike more than Major, from now on I will turn off the stream when Major is on, so hopefully he doesnt achieve too much.
Major please just retire!
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
July 21 2011 00:04 GMT
#1318
On July 21 2011 08:54 marcesr wrote:
There is no pro I can think of right now who I dislike more than Major, from now on I will turn off the stream when Major is on, so hopefully he doesnt achieve too much.
Major please just retire!


This seems like a good idea, I'll do it too.
Never make a hydralisk.
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
July 21 2011 00:47 GMT
#1319
On July 21 2011 08:45 enecateReAP wrote:
I think it's time people forgot about all this crap and all the drama behind the obvious fact that 'Maj0r is killing e-sports' and focus on his play. It is hard to deny he is one of the best T's outside of Korea, and as dickish as this is, play comes before personality in a gaming community.


I find that quite easy to deny to be honest. There is a laundry list of Western Terrans better than him.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
July 21 2011 01:09 GMT
#1320
On July 21 2011 09:47 Subversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 08:45 enecateReAP wrote:
I think it's time people forgot about all this crap and all the drama behind the obvious fact that 'Maj0r is killing e-sports' and focus on his play. It is hard to deny he is one of the best T's outside of Korea, and as dickish as this is, play comes before personality in a gaming community.


I find that quite easy to deny to be honest. There is a laundry list of Western Terrans better than him.

yeah, and they are also much more mannered, and people you would like to be around.

Also, Major did well at MLG, thats it. one big tournament success doesnt make him a top player
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