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On August 04 2011 14:13 Beloved.509 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 08:58 akalarry wrote:On August 04 2011 08:53 Destro wrote: boxer... yes hes the emperor, but people shit on him all the time, but he proved this weekend he IS the emperor for a reason.
haypro + machine , two quiet guys who are soooo skilled. they will have their day soon! LOL haypro and machine are both terrible, i dono what you're smoking. What makes you think they are "soooooooooooooo" skilled? And boxer was not underrated because he was doing pretty bad until MLG anaheim. Haypro is fucking good, don't talk shit on haypro. Thanks
Maybe he his like you say. Regrettably, his results, both inside and outside Korea are very disappointing, you can't honestly say otherwise.
If he is so good, he didn't proove it at the moment.
Worth, i've no objective reasons to say he his underrated, because i never see him play, despite the huge number of europeans and internationnals, online and offline tournaments i watch every week 
I don't say you're wrong, but i wonder how you reached this conclusion.
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Darkforce. He doesn't beat the highest tier but he's no walkover and it's his choice to always compete against the best. Also Ret, who I know has been mentioned before, is a beast of a player who just needs a bit of consistency.
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On August 04 2011 17:41 MrSandman wrote: Darkforce. He doesn't beat the highest tier but he's no walkover and it's his choice to always compete against the best. Also Ret, who I know has been mentioned before, is a beast of a player who just needs a bit of consistency.
Is he still underrated after NASL finals?
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Sjow and Sen. Now, both of these players are awesome and win stuff, but I think they both have potential to be even better and are not fully realized as of yet.
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F91. He was underrated in BW and he is underrated now. Just wait and see, that guy will destroy in the future.
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GLSnute. I am obviously a fanboy, but this guy is probably one of the best Zergs in Europe, consistently showing that he can take down any EU player he faces (Dimaga, Stephano ++).
Just got his stream featured, so maybe now people will be able to see his skill.
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On August 04 2011 17:49 TheAmazombie wrote: Sjow and Sen. Now, both of these players are awesome and win stuff, but I think they both have potential to be even better and are not fully realized as of yet.
I used to think Sjow was underrated, now I think he's pretty fairly rated.
Sen being underrated... I'm not sure I agree with that. He's an amazing foreigner though.
Foreigners
SaSe - In my opinion, the best Swede. Overshadowed pretty heavily by Thorzain/Jinro/Naniwa though. StrifeCro - Considered "dead weight" on EG, but has started to turn things around has pretty good results, part of a very strong 2v2 team. dde - One of the best, but because he plays on sixjax he gets overlooked quite a bit... has managed to give Idra some very tough games. Grubby - People think he's trash, yet he's had some good results outside of NASL, and gave Idra very competitive games.
I'm not familiar enough with the Koreans (probably some B-Teamers who will become the next Pumas) to make a fair judgment.
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On July 18 2011 00:34 Olinim wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 00:32 alepov wrote: all those code a/b and gstl kids, sage hack etc lol what? They're overrated and overhyped if anything. People keep saying DRG is one of top 3 players in the world. I mean come on qualify for gsl first and beat people in something other than bo1s before saying that.
DRG is one of the top 3 players in the world.
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On August 04 2011 18:46 ReturnStroke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 00:34 Olinim wrote:On July 18 2011 00:32 alepov wrote: all those code a/b and gstl kids, sage hack etc lol what? They're overrated and overhyped if anything. People keep saying DRG is one of top 3 players in the world. I mean come on qualify for gsl first and beat people in something other than bo1s before saying that. DRG is one of the top 3 players in the world.
No. He isn't.
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On August 04 2011 18:50 Swagasaurus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 18:46 ReturnStroke wrote:On July 18 2011 00:34 Olinim wrote:On July 18 2011 00:32 alepov wrote: all those code a/b and gstl kids, sage hack etc lol what? They're overrated and overhyped if anything. People keep saying DRG is one of top 3 players in the world. I mean come on qualify for gsl first and beat people in something other than bo1s before saying that. DRG is one of the top 3 players in the world. No. He isn't. Hes definitely a candidate for top 3 in the world. I mean theres no shame in losing to MMA and MVP at MLG, they are both top 3 terran in world. DRG is defineitely top 3 zerg in the world. Top 3 of all players, is debatable, even for someone like Nestea who loses to oGsTOP and dimaga and gets game taken off by code b scrubs like fruitdealer and cezanne.
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On July 18 2011 00:32 Kira__ wrote: IdrA
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On August 04 2011 17:40 Agathon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 14:13 Beloved.509 wrote:On August 04 2011 08:58 akalarry wrote:On August 04 2011 08:53 Destro wrote: boxer... yes hes the emperor, but people shit on him all the time, but he proved this weekend he IS the emperor for a reason.
haypro + machine , two quiet guys who are soooo skilled. they will have their day soon! LOL haypro and machine are both terrible, i dono what you're smoking. What makes you think they are "soooooooooooooo" skilled? And boxer was not underrated because he was doing pretty bad until MLG anaheim. Haypro is fucking good, don't talk shit on haypro. Thanks Maybe he his like you say. Regrettably, his results, both inside and outside Korea are very disappointing, you can't honestly say otherwise. If he is so good, he didn't proove it at the moment. Worth, i've no objective reasons to say he his underrated, because i never see him play, despite the huge number of europeans and internationnals, online and offline tournaments i watch every week  I don't say you're wrong, but i wonder how you reached this conclusion.
Does pretty well at MLG consistently for people like you to say that his results are disappointing. Get rid of his nerve issues and he is top 5 foreigner zerg maybe. He definitely isn't overrated, and I feel like he plays pretty well and still gets flak.
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I agree, Machine and Haypro are both really underrated Zergs, their play has so much depth to it that if you know what you're looking for you can learn almost anything from them.
I also think people think Idra is good for the wrong reason. Sure, his macro is really good, but what I am most impressed with is his builds, which are absolutely impervious to aggression through smart theory and excellent control. It forces his opponents into a macro game, which they certainly don't want to be in versus Idra.
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On August 04 2011 18:30 FairForever wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 17:49 TheAmazombie wrote: Sjow and Sen. Now, both of these players are awesome and win stuff, but I think they both have potential to be even better and are not fully realized as of yet. I used to think Sjow was underrated, now I think he's pretty fairly rated. Sen being underrated... I'm not sure I agree with that. He's an amazing foreigner though. Foreigners SaSe - In my opinion, the best Swede. Overshadowed pretty heavily by Thorzain/Jinro/Naniwa though. StrifeCro - Considered "dead weight" on EG, but has started to turn things around has pretty good results, part of a very strong 2v2 team. dde - One of the best, but because he plays on sixjax he gets overlooked quite a bit... has managed to give Idra some very tough games. Grubby - People think he's trash, yet he's had some good results outside of NASL, and gave Idra very competitive games. I'm not familiar enough with the Koreans (probably some B-Teamers who will become the next Pumas) to make a fair judgment.
NaNiwa is leagues above SaSe, sorry.
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asdfOu/NuclearfOu. I love watching this guy.
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Leenock is a VERY good zerg who doesn't get the respect he deserves. He is really young too!
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