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HelloxD
Profile Joined May 2011
378 Posts
June 28 2011 12:14 GMT
#41
there should be wildcard for his position..

players like drg,moon,maka,squirtle,ace etc(a.k.a can't think of anyone else ) deserves these kinds of chances and all..
Cheebah
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
210 Posts
June 28 2011 12:16 GMT
#42
On June 28 2011 21:09 Pwnographics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 21:06 Cheebah wrote:
Well Rain got a pretty hard run in the GSL.
He made it deep once (I think it was the last Open Season?) got crushed by MC, and the whole community blamed him for cheesing and ruining the grand final. Then you could tell in every match he was trying so hard to look like a solid macro player, but he just never could.
If I recall correctly his last code S appearance was against Inca on Terminus, and he let Inca come back while like tripling his supply. On that day, he displayed one of the worst crisis management I've ever seen (Rain vs Inca - Match 5)
That kind of loss hurts a lot, and I think it made him realize he would never make it to the top of the Korean scene and get rid of his no skill/cheesy player reputation. So he decided to 'ragequit' the GSL and try his luck in the foreigner scene... GSL punished him for that, knowing it won't have any consequence anyway, but it was more a "don't fuck with us" type of thing.
In fact, when Idra decided to drop out of code S, he still attented (trolled xD) the group selection and GSL made him an hilarious homage-video xD


Can you link me to this homage video?


There you go : Idra's farewell video - beginning of Match 2. Just soooo cheesy x)
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zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
June 28 2011 12:19 GMT
#43
2 seasons is like 2 months anyways lol
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
June 28 2011 12:20 GMT
#44
On June 28 2011 20:57 MrCon wrote:
That's probably an administrative punishment anyway, he certainly has broken some rule that induce a 2 years ban and the medias are making some headlines about it to generate drama.


2 seasons, not 2 years.
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
June 28 2011 12:21 GMT
#45
Eh, sounds fair. I've had enough no showing and walk overs and whatnot. I want people messing with the integrity of the tournaments (without good enough notice) to be punished. This shouldn't be some joke of a profession / industry like some of the players are treating it as.
Today's Code S matches were a farce, and Rain is part of the reason for that.

Yeah i mad.
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neo_sporin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States516 Posts
June 28 2011 12:22 GMT
#46
On June 28 2011 21:06 MetalLobster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 20:53 zeru wrote:
On June 28 2011 20:50 MetalLobster wrote:
The suspension is fair IMO he forfeit GSL via twitter or txt (i don't remember) on the day of the opening ceremony, which screws up the groups.

I don't think screwing up the groups is a valid argument for this. It has happened a couple times before and there was no punishment. Not letting them know he's not gonna be there a few days earlier is bad though.


If rain let GOM knew a few days earlier they may have been able to fill in the empty spot, just like how Idra left Code S.


They did not fill Idra's spot when he left until the up/down portion. His group was given free wins just like Rain's was.
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
June 28 2011 12:22 GMT
#47
Yea, he deserved it
But it doesn't affect him, one doesn't give up a Code S spot for nothing
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Zalman
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden65 Posts
June 28 2011 12:24 GMT
#48
They should have just given the code S spot to SlayerS_MMA based on the MLG win imo, could have just implemented the system of the MLG winner getting a Code S abit early and problem solved.
starcraft911
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)1263 Posts
June 28 2011 12:25 GMT
#49
When a person willingly gives up their code S spot I think it's safe to say they don't care about playing in GSL. Maybe down the line he will, but for now I don't think re-qualifying was on his to do list.
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
June 28 2011 12:31 GMT
#50
I don't think it really matter though. As he is moving to NY. He really doesn't want much to do with GSL. Though I think this is more of a ply from GOM to say to him that he will get his spot back once he auctally comes back.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
June 28 2011 12:32 GMT
#51
On June 28 2011 21:24 Zalman wrote:
They should have just given the code S spot to SlayerS_MMA based on the MLG win imo, could have just implemented the system of the MLG winner getting a Code S abit early and problem solved.


If it is like with Idra, they'll give him his spot in the up-and-down matches. I think moon got Idra's up-and-down place due to his performance in whatever tournament that was.
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
June 28 2011 12:32 GMT
#52
On June 28 2011 21:16 Cheebah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 21:09 Pwnographics wrote:
On June 28 2011 21:06 Cheebah wrote:
Well Rain got a pretty hard run in the GSL.
He made it deep once (I think it was the last Open Season?) got crushed by MC, and the whole community blamed him for cheesing and ruining the grand final. Then you could tell in every match he was trying so hard to look like a solid macro player, but he just never could.
If I recall correctly his last code S appearance was against Inca on Terminus, and he let Inca come back while like tripling his supply. On that day, he displayed one of the worst crisis management I've ever seen (Rain vs Inca - Match 5)
That kind of loss hurts a lot, and I think it made him realize he would never make it to the top of the Korean scene and get rid of his no skill/cheesy player reputation. So he decided to 'ragequit' the GSL and try his luck in the foreigner scene... GSL punished him for that, knowing it won't have any consequence anyway, but it was more a "don't fuck with us" type of thing.
In fact, when Idra decided to drop out of code S, he still attented (trolled xD) the group selection and GSL made him an hilarious homage-video xD


Can you link me to this homage video?


There you go : Idra's farewell video - beginning of Match 2. Just soooo cheesy x)


Or you can search "Idra is dead" in the youtube.
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6228 Posts
June 28 2011 12:33 GMT
#53
On June 28 2011 21:24 Zalman wrote:
They should have just given the code S spot to SlayerS_MMA based on the MLG win imo, could have just implemented the system of the MLG winner getting a Code S abit early and problem solved.


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would be a bit weird since he just got knocked out of Code A
wonko
Profile Joined January 2011
14 Posts
June 28 2011 12:34 GMT
#54
Sounds sorta similar to how Kespa banned boxer, nada, and the rest of the old BW pros from pro matches for three years after they forfeited their progamer status to play sc2. Theres some rule, GOM has to enforce it, both parties understand it, and it probably wont make a difference in the long run.
Zalman
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden65 Posts
June 28 2011 12:37 GMT
#55
On June 28 2011 21:33 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 21:24 Zalman wrote:
They should have just given the code S spot to SlayerS_MMA based on the MLG win imo, could have just implemented the system of the MLG winner getting a Code S abit early and problem solved.


+ Show Spoiler +
would be a bit weird since he just got knocked out of Code A


Ye now ofc but they knew about Rain jumping ship before code A started so they had their chance then, now it's to late.
Zeroxk
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway1244 Posts
June 28 2011 12:40 GMT
#56
On June 28 2011 21:34 wonko wrote:
Sounds sorta similar to how Kespa banned boxer, nada, and the rest of the old BW pros from pro matches for three years after they forfeited their progamer status to play sc2. Theres some rule, GOM has to enforce it, both parties understand it, and it probably wont make a difference in the long run.


Is that still in effect? Thought it would be lifted since Kespa and Blizz are cool now
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
June 28 2011 12:45 GMT
#57
Bad for fnatic. That was a chance to get money from advertising in GSL.
Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
June 28 2011 12:47 GMT
#58
On June 28 2011 20:23 -Zoda- wrote:
It is fair. He just fucked up the Code S group A...
When Idra leaved, there was a mini tourney to take his empty place. They certainly wanted to do it again, but it seems there was too late.

Actually Idra's spot in code S was left empty, like with Rain's spot, but the spot in up/down matches was given to the winner of the IEM World Championship (since the 4 people left in IEM at that time all were players that were knocked out in Code A RO32). If they'll do something similar this time with his spot in up/down we'll have to wait and see.
Bad manners are better than no manners at all.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
June 28 2011 12:52 GMT
#59
The problem is that they don't have procedure for filling those spots like rain and idra left.
They can't just arbitrary choose a player, because all of you who are arguing that would still argue that they didn't choose the right player, that their criteria are stupid or whatever. There's just no way to take a fair decision.
Nightkaira
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore412 Posts
June 28 2011 12:55 GMT
#60
wad i think is, GSL feels Rain dis-respected the league by bailing and no show instead of informing GSL of his withdrawal.

I'm sure the other player who were overseas, HuK, MC etc had informed GSL of their trip.

This is a good punishment for Rain, its a temp 2 season ban, not a perm ban or shit.
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