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ronpaul012
Profile Joined March 2011
United States769 Posts
June 18 2011 02:54 GMT
#141
Good job guys, i've had a great time in the normal clan since I joined last month, and have loved watching our pro team play in live streams. Cant wait to see these two as well!
I'm a gooner.
Draekan
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada220 Posts
June 18 2011 02:59 GMT
#142
On June 18 2011 11:43 VPGeneralHans wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 10:50 -_- wrote:
The only reason I bothered listening to Painuser was because he played Starcraft 2 at a high level. He's not a Starcraft Broodwar legend, or even a notable figure from some other gaming scene. Now, as NASL has shown, he's not very good. So why would any Starcraft 2 team sign him? He's not good, and he's not good to listen to.

have you heard of MLG Dallas 2010?


Or have you read why this "not so good player" has lost all his NASL matches? Scheduling conflicts dont allow him to play his matches, every loss is a forfeit.
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
June 18 2011 03:01 GMT
#143
On June 18 2011 11:59 Draekan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 11:43 VPGeneralHans wrote:
On June 18 2011 10:50 -_- wrote:
The only reason I bothered listening to Painuser was because he played Starcraft 2 at a high level. He's not a Starcraft Broodwar legend, or even a notable figure from some other gaming scene. Now, as NASL has shown, he's not very good. So why would any Starcraft 2 team sign him? He's not good, and he's not good to listen to.

have you heard of MLG Dallas 2010?


Or have you read why this "not so good player" has lost all his NASL matches? Scheduling conflicts dont allow him to play his matches, every loss is a forfeit.

Or even has he heard of anyone improving? Or getting back to their old form? Like someone else mentioned, this is like saying that Polt was terrible when he was juggling university (though obviously NA is on a lesser scale overall).
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 03:57:35
June 18 2011 03:56 GMT
#144
On June 18 2011 11:43 VPGeneralHans wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 10:50 -_- wrote:
The only reason I bothered listening to Painuser was because he played Starcraft 2 at a high level. He's not a Starcraft Broodwar legend, or even a notable figure from some other gaming scene. Now, as NASL has shown, he's not very good. So why would any Starcraft 2 team sign him? He's not good, and he's not good to listen to.

have you heard of MLG Dallas 2010?


Oh, you don't mean the MLG Dallas 2011? Where he went 1-3 in the group stages then lost to Vibe? I guess you're talking about the one which was played 7 months ago.

On June 18 2011 11:59 Draekan wrote:


Or have you read why this "not so good player" has lost all his NASL matches? Scheduling conflicts dont allow him to play his matches, every loss is a forfeit.


I know Painuser forfeited some matches, purportedly because he couldn't play at work.
Yet, on painuser's blog he says "I was also given a brief moment to play my NASL match from work, which is awesome. A few of my co-workers looked on and cheered for me."

http://www.ign.com/blogs/pain.user

Then later he says:

"My boss had made it very clear this is not ok to play matches from work." I guess his boss told him after the game against drewbie. But, being serious for second, if he had the remotest chance to win the NASL he would have found a way to play them. He certainly found a way to lose to Zenio after getting the job. But maybe he wasn't giving it his all. After all he had already lost to Cloud, Socke, Sen, Idra, and the aforementioned Drewbie.

On June 18 2011 12:01 Redmark wrote:

Or even has he heard of anyone improving? Or getting back to their old form? Like someone else mentioned, this is like saying that Polt was terrible when he was juggling university (though obviously NA is on a lesser scale overall).


Painuser has no old form to get back to. His last victory of consequence came weeks after Starcraft 2 came out, and his last tournament placing of consequence came a few months later. During neither of these performances did he show top-level mechanics, amazing micro, or unique builds. He did use thors and banshees late game PVT.

Sure he can improve, but he was a C+ BW player. He's got a long way to go.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 04:12:02
June 18 2011 03:58 GMT
#145
HD is actually a really strong Zerg player; I remember watching him play at MLG and putting up a VERY good fight against the Professionals and even winning a series; even though Lazarus Gaming picked up him a week beforehand.

HD FIGHT-TING!

@-_-
Painuser is one of my favorite terrans because he's consistently solid in all of his matchups. As soon as he gets any momentum in tournaments he rolls through opponents. He's just really busy right now with his IGN duties (How was he supposed to make money when he doesn't have a team?). There's no reason for ANYONE to hate on him for not going BC's and nukes or stubbornly macroing (and making terrible decisions) like Machine.

Now that he has a team ease financial difficulties, he's going to !@#$ over everyone in all the pro leagues.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Santi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Colombia466 Posts
June 18 2011 04:04 GMT
#146
All I wanna say is that I have no respect for Painuser and I think he we will not win anything.

But HD! thats sick that he finally has a team.
Drock
Profile Joined October 2010
United States305 Posts
June 18 2011 04:11 GMT
#147
I'm really stoked to see how Faith does. For someone who basically just started playing SC2 and RTS's in general it is pretty fricken amazing that he is playing at this high a level.
I kinda miss Idra...
Draekan
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada220 Posts
June 18 2011 04:38 GMT
#148
Yeah Faith is a solid player, when we picked him up a few months ago he had only picked up the game a few months before and had watched gsl, went from unranked with no RTS background to Masters in a week, continued his rise. We recruited him and pushed him to ladder more, he went on a 30 win streak TEAR and just got Grandmasters. laddered his way up to #10 on the Grandmaster list before he had to go camping, expecting him back monday to continue to tear up the ladder.


Also, almost all of our team will be at MLG Anaheim so look for us there to tear it up :D
AxelTVx
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada916 Posts
June 18 2011 06:44 GMT
#149
On June 18 2011 13:04 Santi wrote:
All I wanna say is that I have no respect for Painuser and I think he we will not win anything.

But HD! thats sick that he finally has a team.


Honestly, I find this to be such a retarded example of fanboyism. You say painuser is a shit player, and then because you love HD, you're only glad for him. As good as HD is, Painuser is by far better than HD. Personally, I believe there were 2 reasons for signing HD:

1) Publicity - HD is one of the top 5 casters on youtube, therefore to get more reputation for VP, they signed him.

2) Painuser-HD are Friends - These two are really good friends, and Painuser would not join without HD.
Axel 145 Masters Protoss
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
June 18 2011 06:50 GMT
#150
Win win for both parties.

VP is not well known and recruiting HD and painuser (even with the controversy) will only help them in the publicity department.

Painuser and HD also benefit.
Not sure there's a well established team that would touch PU right now, given the lack of professionalism in he displayed in the NASL. HD isn't known as a competitive player so no competitive team would seriously consider him either.

VP isn't well known anyways so its great they have some pieces to start off and work with.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
starcraft911
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)1263 Posts
June 18 2011 07:06 GMT
#151
On June 18 2011 00:35 Xiaon wrote:
HDstarcraft isnt actually that good
painuser rocks though
glad youve helped him out


Uhhh, i think they picked them up for other reasons, not because they are good at the game. For instance, FXO has wolf on their team and I think he's like gold league. They are community reps that is nice to have on a team.
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1103 Posts
June 18 2011 07:07 GMT
#152
Having HD as a good media outlet for your team is one thing, putting him up along side the likes of painuser is another... Buy gl to HD and painuser
piskooooo
Profile Joined November 2008
United States351 Posts
June 18 2011 07:30 GMT
#153
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 18 2011 12:56 -_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 11:43 VPGeneralHans wrote:
On June 18 2011 10:50 -_- wrote:
The only reason I bothered listening to Painuser was because he played Starcraft 2 at a high level. He's not a Starcraft Broodwar legend, or even a notable figure from some other gaming scene. Now, as NASL has shown, he's not very good. So why would any Starcraft 2 team sign him? He's not good, and he's not good to listen to.

have you heard of MLG Dallas 2010?


Oh, you don't mean the MLG Dallas 2011? Where he went 1-3 in the group stages then lost to Vibe? I guess you're talking about the one which was played 7 months ago.

Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 11:59 Draekan wrote:


Or have you read why this "not so good player" has lost all his NASL matches? Scheduling conflicts dont allow him to play his matches, every loss is a forfeit.


I know Painuser forfeited some matches, purportedly because he couldn't play at work.
Yet, on painuser's blog he says "I was also given a brief moment to play my NASL match from work, which is awesome. A few of my co-workers looked on and cheered for me."

http://www.ign.com/blogs/pain.user

Then later he says:

"My boss had made it very clear this is not ok to play matches from work." I guess his boss told him after the game against drewbie. But, being serious for second, if he had the remotest chance to win the NASL he would have found a way to play them. He certainly found a way to lose to Zenio after getting the job. But maybe he wasn't giving it his all. After all he had already lost to Cloud, Socke, Sen, Idra, and the aforementioned Drewbie.

Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 12:01 Redmark wrote:

Or even has he heard of anyone improving? Or getting back to their old form? Like someone else mentioned, this is like saying that Polt was terrible when he was juggling university (though obviously NA is on a lesser scale overall).


Painuser has no old form to get back to. His last victory of consequence came weeks after Starcraft 2 came out, and his last tournament placing of consequence came a few months later. During neither of these performances did he show top-level mechanics, amazing micro, or unique builds. He did use thors and banshees late game PVT.

Sure he can improve, but he was a C+ BW player. He's got a long way to go.

All of this is true and if I posted it I would have been banned for a week.
<3 MKP
Nerski
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1095 Posts
June 18 2011 07:39 GMT
#154
people are always such critics lol, they are both good guys and obviously were glad to have them on board. I swear some people take little sound bites they hear way to seriously.

Long story short easy with the hate people, painuser has more then explained what lead to him not being able to play NASL a bunch of times on multiple platforms. People take little sound bites and claim oh he could of should of this that.

Reality is sometimes life is not as simple as you'd like it to be...he got the 9 to 5 job with IGN, the NASL match scheduling didn't mesh with that...he got to play 1 game from work but his bosses didn't want him to continue playing all his matches...which is reasonable IGN has stake in him as an employee not a pro gamer. Thus without special scheduling for all his matches outside of work hours he could not longer participate which NASL apparently was unable to do...the end.

No grand conspiracy to deprive you all of him playing in the NASL or anything goofy like that....also it's pretty well known in LG's last days it wasn't like he had a super solid team to practice with. So now him and HD join VP where they can practice against good players when they are not at work, and sure up anything they need to in order to be in tournament shape.

In case you guys doubt the ability of some of the other guys you don't yet know from VP, many of them have won or placed extremely high in multiple online tournament platforms...Chance just recently won the Tactic 3D pro am, and then was playing against top tier talent in the next day.

This team has no where but up to go from this point forward, and we have a really good bunch of people and strong players to support that endeavor.
Twitter: @GoForNerski /// Youtube: Youtube.com/nerskisc
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 07:50:32
June 18 2011 07:49 GMT
#155
People are reading into this too much thinking that HD and Painuser are just noobs who got picked up because they're famous.

Has anyone watched their games at all?
HD was one of the first Zergs to utilize the Baneling drop and fungal workers on probe lines way before it got popular recently
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5259 Posts
June 18 2011 08:02 GMT
#156
On June 18 2011 16:06 starcraft911 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 00:35 Xiaon wrote:
HDstarcraft isnt actually that good
painuser rocks though
glad youve helped him out


Uhhh, i think they picked them up for other reasons, not because they are good at the game. For instance, FXO has wolf on their team and I think he's like gold league. They are community reps that is nice to have on a team.


I'm pretty sure wolf is mid-high masters.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
June 18 2011 08:07 GMT
#157
Painuser wasnt terrible last year I don't get all the hate in here lol. Sure he's struggled lately and hasnt had good results but it's because he's been doing other things (Like working for IGN????) he's done a ton for the sc2 community and is a nice guy people should appreciate that...
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4908 Posts
June 18 2011 08:18 GMT
#158
As long as HD actually practices, he could do well. I'm going to be optimistic! GL!
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
xSixGeneralHan
Profile Joined April 2011
United States528 Posts
June 18 2011 15:01 GMT
#159
thanks for the kind words everyone, really shows how awesome this community is
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Crovea
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark100 Posts
June 18 2011 15:36 GMT
#160
On June 18 2011 12:56 -_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 11:43 VPGeneralHans wrote:
On June 18 2011 10:50 -_- wrote:
The only reason I bothered listening to Painuser was because he played Starcraft 2 at a high level. He's not a Starcraft Broodwar legend, or even a notable figure from some other gaming scene. Now, as NASL has shown, he's not very good. So why would any Starcraft 2 team sign him? He's not good, and he's not good to listen to.

have you heard of MLG Dallas 2010?


Oh, you don't mean the MLG Dallas 2011? Where he went 1-3 in the group stages then lost to Vibe? I guess you're talking about the one which was played 7 months ago.

Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 11:59 Draekan wrote:


Or have you read why this "not so good player" has lost all his NASL matches? Scheduling conflicts dont allow him to play his matches, every loss is a forfeit.


I know Painuser forfeited some matches, purportedly because he couldn't play at work.
Yet, on painuser's blog he says "I was also given a brief moment to play my NASL match from work, which is awesome. A few of my co-workers looked on and cheered for me."

http://www.ign.com/blogs/pain.user

Then later he says:

"My boss had made it very clear this is not ok to play matches from work." I guess his boss told him after the game against drewbie. But, being serious for second, if he had the remotest chance to win the NASL he would have found a way to play them. He certainly found a way to lose to Zenio after getting the job. But maybe he wasn't giving it his all. After all he had already lost to Cloud, Socke, Sen, Idra, and the aforementioned Drewbie.

Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 12:01 Redmark wrote:

Or even has he heard of anyone improving? Or getting back to their old form? Like someone else mentioned, this is like saying that Polt was terrible when he was juggling university (though obviously NA is on a lesser scale overall).


Painuser has no old form to get back to. His last victory of consequence came weeks after Starcraft 2 came out, and his last tournament placing of consequence came a few months later. During neither of these performances did he show top-level mechanics, amazing micro, or unique builds. He did use thors and banshees late game PVT.

Sure he can improve, but he was a C+ BW player. He's got a long way to go.


Imagine Painuser reading some crap like that, are you purposely trying to get people demotivated. you are entitled to your opinions, but no reason to say anything but "good luck painuser! " in your position.
No reason to be that much of a downer .. worrrrd
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