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On June 17 2011 20:18 Luppy1 wrote:
Is it a new trend for people to accuse others of trolling just because the things they read is beyond their understanding? How am I trolling when I'm explaining why your suggestion is flawed?
Perhaps because my suggestion is based in reality while yours is complete fantasy?
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Did he just say
"Almost every matchup is balanced, with the exception of two"? ;d
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Two out of nine (NA/KR/EU) isn't way off.
This thread turned into shit. Hope this thread gets moderated. I read through 4 pages of whether one race demands more micro than the other and whine whine whine.
Brilliant interview, and it feels like Dayvie knows what he is doing. He mentioned spawn locations sometiems giving him issues, he mentioned lategame concerns as well as timing pushes and I agree to the way they're handling the balance.
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Fair enough.
And yeah, after reading situation reports it was kind of obvious that some of the people involved in the balance process have absolutely no idea what they're doing - glad to see at least Kim really knows his stuff.
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On June 17 2011 21:16 EmilA wrote:
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Two out of nine (NA/KR/EU) isn't way off.
This thread turned into shit. Hope this thread gets moderated. I read through 4 pages of whether one race demands more micro than the other and whine whine whine.
Brilliant interview, and it feels like Dayvie knows what he is doing. He mentioned spawn locations sometiems giving him issues, he mentioned lategame concerns as well as timing pushes and I agree to the way they're handling the balance.
their are some areas where the blizz team seems clueless though. For example their talk of removing the overseer because it isnt "cool"
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fully approve with david kim. beeing a R player myself i find it difficult to combad broodlord infestor and easier playing on the zergs side in the lategame of TvZ but this might just be that im not as well in multitaskin drops and so on but thats where the balancing gets really hard if there is a problem that only can be solved with superb mechanics even though the problem it self is easy to be done by the opponent so that the lower level games ae kinda broken ...
nice interviews though
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On June 17 2011 06:45 Sabu113 wrote:
Bwhaha this is terrible but I couldn't help but look at David Kim's shirt see the Terran Icon and think "That figures."
:D
A lot of talk about Kerrigan being hated in Browder's interview...
They said she doesn't really have any friends, didn't we just spend all that time with jim trying to 'save' her?
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Heart of the Spliff coming soon!
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On June 17 2011 21:13 n0ise wrote:
Did he just say
"Almost every matchup is balanced, with the exception of two"? ;d
i love ppl who rip comments out of context... he said the other 7 are about 50:50 and the mentioned 2 are pretty close, which i guess means 55:45 or max 60:40
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On June 17 2011 22:22 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 21:13 n0ise wrote:
Did he just say
"Almost every matchup is balanced, with the exception of two"? ;d i love ppl who rip comments out of context... he said the other 7 are about 50:50 and the mentioned 2 are pretty close, which i guess means 55:45 or max 60:40
More like 49:51 - 51:49 ... percentages over 3 realms are huge..
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i think its cool that they are looking at the units again.
when he said the infestor BL combo, i can see a change of fungal coming.
the reason (and incontrol said this) is because fungal stops all micro. you cannot move.
with storm, FF, PDD etc you have the choice of just backing off. with fungal that isnt there.
so i expect to see some sort of change coming soon. maybe in hots or not.
super awesome interviews though :D
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On June 17 2011 22:22 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 21:13 n0ise wrote:
Did he just say
"Almost every matchup is balanced, with the exception of two"? ;d i love ppl who rip comments out of context... he said the other 7 are about 50:50 and the mentioned 2 are pretty close, which i guess means 55:45 or max 60:40
There are only 3 matchups in terms of balance:
ZvT
ZvP
TvP
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I just hate all the casuals here .. This is an e-sport website. Not fanbase website for games like red-alertish game.
Casual features are going to be the downfall of this scene.
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pretty funny, when he said 2 matchups arent very good balanced yet, but in fact there are only 3 matchups besides mirrors.
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I think dustin browder and david kim are very good for this game. everytime i hear them talk I get the impression that they know alot about the game, understand it very very well and love the game to its core.
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Maybe he was talking about 2v2s and such also?
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On June 17 2011 22:28 Highways wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 22:22 AsnSensation wrote:On June 17 2011 21:13 n0ise wrote:
Did he just say
"Almost every matchup is balanced, with the exception of two"? ;d i love ppl who rip comments out of context... he said the other 7 are about 50:50 and the mentioned 2 are pretty close, which i guess means 55:45 or max 60:40 There are only 3 matchups in terms of balance: ZvT ZvP TvP
Or he was talking about between regions as well, since he mentioned the regions.
So let's say E is Europe. A is America. K is Korea.
Then it would be EZvET, EZvAT, EZvKT, EZvEP, EZvAP, EZvKP, ETvEP, ETvAP, ETvKP, AZvAT, AZvKT, AZvAP, AZvKP, ATvAP, ATvKP.
So 15 matchups? That obviously doesn't include mirror matches of regions, which would be EZvEZ, EZvAZ, EZvKZ, AZvKZ, ETvET, ETvAT, ETvKT, ATvKT, EPvEP, EPvAP, EPvKP, APvKP. Which is 12 more matchups, but if you want to eliminate each region fighting the same region, it would only be 9 more.
So it's either 15, 24 or 27 match ups depending on how you look at it that way.
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I would love/hate to have David Kim's job... He'll never please everyone, and yet he's doing such a damn good job.
Dustin on the other hand - he kind of gets a more open-reigned approach to his job, as balance isn't as much of an issue for him.
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1v1 maps: please please please use MLG maps. at least for masters level players and above!
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On June 17 2011 23:09 keeblur wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 22:28 Highways wrote:On June 17 2011 22:22 AsnSensation wrote:On June 17 2011 21:13 n0ise wrote:
Did he just say
"Almost every matchup is balanced, with the exception of two"? ;d i love ppl who rip comments out of context... he said the other 7 are about 50:50 and the mentioned 2 are pretty close, which i guess means 55:45 or max 60:40 There are only 3 matchups in terms of balance: ZvT ZvP TvP Or he was talking about between regions as well, since he mentioned the regions. So let's say E is Europe. A is America. K is Korea. Then it would be EZvET, EZvAT, EZvKT, EZvEP, EZvAP, EZvKP, ETvEP, ETvAP, ETvKP, AZvAT, AZvKT, AZvAP, AZvKP, ATvAP, ATvKP. So 15 matchups? That obviously doesn't include mirror matches of regions, which would be EZvEZ, EZvAZ, EZvKZ, AZvKZ, ETvET, ETvAT, ETvKT, ATvKT, EPvEP, EPvAP, EPvKP, APvKP. Which is 12 more matchups, but if you want to eliminate each region fighting the same region, it would only be 9 more. So it's either 15, 24 or 27 match ups depending on how you look at it that way.
between regions? lol. all korean vs nonkorean matchups would be imba then. also latency :\
he means the 3 matchups (zvt, tvp, pvz) in each of the 3 regions. 9 matchups. mirrors dont affect balance.
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