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Mise
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland580 Posts
June 15 2011 10:09 GMT
#101
They said ThorZain won't play for WeMadeFox, however it is still possible that he will play for another team, for one reason or another? Maybe he doesn't want to stay in Korea for extra 5 weeks, if he drops out of Code A.
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
June 15 2011 10:11 GMT
#102
huh did I miss something?
what is F.united o.0
Nerdslayer
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1130 Posts
June 15 2011 10:12 GMT
#103
On June 15 2011 19:09 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 18:46 Frankon wrote:
Looks like for once Xeris was right about communication skills of GOM...

How's this relevant?

GOM have so far done almost flawlessly in terms of communication... the only complaint I've heard from players is that GSL releases their maps a bit late. But I think this has been rectified.

Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 18:57 Nevarix wrote:
This is GSTL August. F.U doesnt play untill week 6.

Edit: To clarify, next GSTL is GSTL August. The finals are in August, hence GSTL August.

The next GSTL takes place over 3 months and 1 week. The final is in early October actually. So far they haven't announced the title for this GSTL.


Making an announcement that Thorzain will play in the F.United team in the GSL without even speaking to thorzain or his team isnt that bad communication?
I)etox
Profile Joined April 2011
1240 Posts
June 15 2011 10:13 GMT
#104
Thorzain is pretty good I don't think he'd do well in GSTL format. When he's prepared for his opponent he is a force to reckoned with, but when it comes to spontaneity there is still much to be desired from him.

Whatever his decision to not play may be, goodluck to him in the GSL.
Dustus
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom86 Posts
June 15 2011 10:16 GMT
#105
On June 15 2011 19:12 Nerdslayer wrote:

Making an announcement that Thorzain will play in the F.United team in the GSL without even speaking to thorzain or his team isnt that bad communication?



Yes its bad, but that wasn't GOM. It was MLG that announced it, therefore blaming Goms communication seems a bit silly.
JonB
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden325 Posts
June 15 2011 10:17 GMT
#106
Hmm, it's a shame :/
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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
June 15 2011 10:18 GMT
#107
On June 15 2011 19:12 Nerdslayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 19:09 pdd wrote:
On June 15 2011 18:46 Frankon wrote:
Looks like for once Xeris was right about communication skills of GOM...

How's this relevant?

GOM have so far done almost flawlessly in terms of communication... the only complaint I've heard from players is that GSL releases their maps a bit late. But I think this has been rectified.

On June 15 2011 18:57 Nevarix wrote:
This is GSTL August. F.U doesnt play untill week 6.

Edit: To clarify, next GSTL is GSTL August. The finals are in August, hence GSTL August.

The next GSTL takes place over 3 months and 1 week. The final is in early October actually. So far they haven't announced the title for this GSTL.


Making an announcement that Thorzain will play in the F.United team in the GSL without even speaking to thorzain or his team isnt that bad communication?

It is. But I don't see how it should be an issue which we should make into a bigger deal than it is.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
pusmoh
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany75 Posts
June 15 2011 10:19 GMT
#108
On June 15 2011 19:16 Dustus wrote:


Yes its bad, but that wasn't GOM. It was MLG that announced it, therefore blaming Goms communication seems a bit silly.



GOM also did announce it, even a few hours earlier than MLG in the GSTL newspost.
cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
June 15 2011 10:19 GMT
#109
Sounds like bad communication indeed, but even so... why would you not? You're there, you might as well play.
jaycee
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia62 Posts
June 15 2011 10:23 GMT
#110
I just read through the twitter/facebook links, and to clarify:

Mouz and ThorZain weren't aware of any plans for GSTL / F.United to occur.
They are not against it; they are not saying it won't happen; just that no one ran it by them.
I guess GOM are making the opportunity available publicly before privately, which is a bit strange.

Krzysztof Narloch yet your clarification caused a bit of uproar. [...]

mousesports Oh, maybe that got wrong a bit in the end. We don't have any problem with our players competing in other teams which are set up for a special tournament (F.United for GSTL in this case; MorroW in the World All-Star team before). We just meant the fact, that ThorZaIN was announced for GSTL, which really surprised us and we haven't been contacted before neither bei MLG nor GOM officials or press coordinators or anyone else.
18 minutes ago
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Nerdslayer
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1130 Posts
June 15 2011 10:25 GMT
#111
On June 15 2011 19:16 Dustus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 19:12 Nerdslayer wrote:

Making an announcement that Thorzain will play in the F.United team in the GSL without even speaking to thorzain or his team isnt that bad communication?



Yes its bad, but that wasn't GOM. It was MLG that announced it, therefore blaming Goms communication seems a bit silly.


they did announce it go check gom out
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
June 15 2011 10:27 GMT
#112
On June 15 2011 19:23 jaycee wrote:
I just read through the twitter/facebook links, and to clarify:

Mouz and ThorZain weren't aware of any plans for GSTL / F.United to occur.
They are not against it; they are not saying it won't happen; just that no one ran it by them.
I guess GOM are making the opportunity available publicly before privately, which is a bit strange.

Show nested quote +
Krzysztof Narloch yet your clarification caused a bit of uproar. [...]

mousesports Oh, maybe that got wrong a bit in the end. We don't have any problem with our players competing in other teams which are set up for a special tournament (F.United for GSTL in this case; MorroW in the World All-Star team before). We just meant the fact, that ThorZaIN was announced for GSTL, which really surprised us and we haven't been contacted before neither bei MLG nor GOM officials or press coordinators or anyone else.
18 minutes ago

Hmm... they do say that Thorzain likely won't accept in their 1st response. Not sure though. I guess it's worth the wait to see if he accepts.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 10:30:28
June 15 2011 10:27 GMT
#113
Ok pls. some moderator change the thread title.

Thorzain will most likely play in GSTL.


On June 15 2011 19:18 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 19:12 Nerdslayer wrote:
On June 15 2011 19:09 pdd wrote:
On June 15 2011 18:46 Frankon wrote:
Looks like for once Xeris was right about communication skills of GOM...

How's this relevant?

GOM have so far done almost flawlessly in terms of communication... the only complaint I've heard from players is that GSL releases their maps a bit late. But I think this has been rectified.

On June 15 2011 18:57 Nevarix wrote:
This is GSTL August. F.U doesnt play untill week 6.

Edit: To clarify, next GSTL is GSTL August. The finals are in August, hence GSTL August.

The next GSTL takes place over 3 months and 1 week. The final is in early October actually. So far they haven't announced the title for this GSTL.


Making an announcement that Thorzain will play in the F.United team in the GSL without even speaking to thorzain or his team isnt that bad communication?

It is. But I don't see how it should be an issue which we should make into a bigger deal than it is.

If it happened once it would be overlooked. But it happened the second time.
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 10:30:11
June 15 2011 10:29 GMT
#114
double post....
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
June 15 2011 10:30 GMT
#115
On June 15 2011 19:29 Frankon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 19:18 pdd wrote:
On June 15 2011 19:12 Nerdslayer wrote:
On June 15 2011 19:09 pdd wrote:
On June 15 2011 18:46 Frankon wrote:
Looks like for once Xeris was right about communication skills of GOM...

How's this relevant?

GOM have so far done almost flawlessly in terms of communication... the only complaint I've heard from players is that GSL releases their maps a bit late. But I think this has been rectified.

On June 15 2011 18:57 Nevarix wrote:
This is GSTL August. F.U doesnt play untill week 6.

Edit: To clarify, next GSTL is GSTL August. The finals are in August, hence GSTL August.

The next GSTL takes place over 3 months and 1 week. The final is in early October actually. So far they haven't announced the title for this GSTL.


Making an announcement that Thorzain will play in the F.United team in the GSL without even speaking to thorzain or his team isnt that bad communication?

It is. But I don't see how it should be an issue which we should make into a bigger deal than it is.

If it happened once it would be overlooked. But it happened the second time.

When did it happen a first time?
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 10:33:25
June 15 2011 10:31 GMT
#116
probably because Mouz and Thorzain were a bit putout at not being advised or spoke to regarding this, and MLG most likely auto assumed(wrongly by look of it) that Thorzain would play in the GSTL for that team after accepting the Code A invite and advised GOM of this, so not really GOM's fault they just assumed that MLG had already spoke to Mouz and Thorzain.
Live and Let Die!
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
June 15 2011 10:31 GMT
#117
On June 15 2011 19:30 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 19:29 Frankon wrote:
On June 15 2011 19:18 pdd wrote:
On June 15 2011 19:12 Nerdslayer wrote:
On June 15 2011 19:09 pdd wrote:
On June 15 2011 18:46 Frankon wrote:
Looks like for once Xeris was right about communication skills of GOM...

How's this relevant?

GOM have so far done almost flawlessly in terms of communication... the only complaint I've heard from players is that GSL releases their maps a bit late. But I think this has been rectified.

On June 15 2011 18:57 Nevarix wrote:
This is GSTL August. F.U doesnt play untill week 6.

Edit: To clarify, next GSTL is GSTL August. The finals are in August, hence GSTL August.

The next GSTL takes place over 3 months and 1 week. The final is in early October actually. So far they haven't announced the title for this GSTL.


Making an announcement that Thorzain will play in the F.United team in the GSL without even speaking to thorzain or his team isnt that bad communication?

It is. But I don't see how it should be an issue which we should make into a bigger deal than it is.

If it happened once it would be overlooked. But it happened the second time.

When did it happen a first time?

World Tournament... Western teams got a message from gom less than a week before it started...
human_ko
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation676 Posts
June 15 2011 10:40 GMT
#118
im getting kinda sick of these rumours, noone knows nothing for sure but states a lot..
WOrd, yo.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
June 15 2011 10:40 GMT
#119
On June 15 2011 19:31 Frankon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 19:30 pdd wrote:
On June 15 2011 19:29 Frankon wrote:
On June 15 2011 19:18 pdd wrote:
On June 15 2011 19:12 Nerdslayer wrote:
On June 15 2011 19:09 pdd wrote:
On June 15 2011 18:46 Frankon wrote:
Looks like for once Xeris was right about communication skills of GOM...

How's this relevant?

GOM have so far done almost flawlessly in terms of communication... the only complaint I've heard from players is that GSL releases their maps a bit late. But I think this has been rectified.

On June 15 2011 18:57 Nevarix wrote:
This is GSTL August. F.U doesnt play untill week 6.

Edit: To clarify, next GSTL is GSTL August. The finals are in August, hence GSTL August.

The next GSTL takes place over 3 months and 1 week. The final is in early October actually. So far they haven't announced the title for this GSTL.


Making an announcement that Thorzain will play in the F.United team in the GSL without even speaking to thorzain or his team isnt that bad communication?

It is. But I don't see how it should be an issue which we should make into a bigger deal than it is.

If it happened once it would be overlooked. But it happened the second time.

When did it happen a first time?

World Tournament... Western teams got a message from gom less than a week before it started...

1. It was 3 weeks notice before departure and it was their first venture to reach out to the foreigners.

Quoting from Xeris's post.
The fact that GOM notified foreign players basically three weeks before they would need to actually go to Korea leaves teams and organizations a VERY limited time to make accommodations.


2. The players who were invited all ended up arriving anyway and it wasn't a very big deal. Just a lot of inconvenience to the managers of the team.

3. Dreamhack also has its fair of setbacks with almost half of the Koreans invited not going although they had pre-announced them as invited. No one's blaming them for jumping the gun on the announcement. (I'm aware that they weren't announcing false information when they made the announcements, but the point is things like these happen and there's still time to rectify it... no need to make a big deal about it).
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
EG.Thorzain
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden164 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 10:46:45
June 15 2011 10:45 GMT
#120
To clarify things: I will most likely play GSTL in F.United.

What happened was that I wasn't informed about me playing in the GSTL in the first place until I saw the official GOMTV news. When I saw the news I asked my team about permission and they didn't know about it as well. As long as I wouldn't be representing WMF i was allowed to play.

I sent a mail to GOMTv asking them about that and they said I would be able to represent mouz (shirt etc).

This morning when I woke up I saw this thread with the rather misformulated mousesports-tweet. What they meant was more likely that I'm not confirmed to play in the GSTL yet. However, now when I've cleared things out I will almost certainly still be playing it.
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