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Nethermind
New Zealand445 Posts
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Shadowcloak
Netherlands194 Posts
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Clearout
Norway1060 Posts
I'm hyping myself up by this being the matchup between the rich kid in the uniform with his rich father (boxer) and polt being the kid from nowhere who goes to school on top of playing. Maybe thats just me though  | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On June 14 2011 07:51 Talin wrote: I've been reading that thread (can't watch streams on work) during the actual games, and noticed probably no more than 5 posts that could MAYBE, at a stretch, be categorized as "irrational hatred". And most of them were during the actual games where people will generally post all kinds of shit due to excitement and cheering for their player. It's not like MMA vs MKP was any different in that regard (or most other games). On the other hand, I've noticed so many posts pretty much taking pity on Polt and "defending" him against some imaginary witch hunt... I don't really know. Unless you're interpreting not being too excited about Polt as a finalist (or in general) and not considering him the greatest player (and person) in the world for getting there as "hatred". In which case, I... would be speechless. =P Some of the posts are hate, but most of them are irrational apathy. It's stuff like: - "MMA will crush him, he's so much better" (irrational, most people here don't understand how Polt is winning because he doesn't impress them so they conclude he's average) - "Polt has bad macro" (not true either, but most people here are brainwashed with the concept that you have to be constantly producing workers all the time to have good macro) - "Polt's only here because his opponents played like crap" (at points this is true, but it applies to every player who ever played in a tournament) - "Polt's not that good of a player" (somewhat ironic since his record since season 2 rivals that of Bomber or MMA) I find it annoying that one of the best terrans in the world atm gets literally no recognition for his wins. There's always some excuse or qualifier attached to any praise whatsoever. People also talk about MMA like this and it bugs me as well. | ||
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coldasice
Australia208 Posts
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MattRz
Chile1681 Posts
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Zeaket
United States208 Posts
On June 14 2011 08:19 CosmicSpiral wrote: Some of the posts are hate, but most of them are irrational apathy. It's stuff like: - "Polt's only here because his opponents played like crap" (at points this is true, but it applies to every player who ever played in a tournament) I disagree with this. There's a difference between a build order loss, being cheesed, losing to superior macro, mechanics, etc, than a player who is simply having an off day. That's not to say I agree with the original statement, but that's my thoughts. | ||
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On June 14 2011 09:08 Zeaket wrote: I disagree with this. There's a difference between a build order loss, being cheesed, losing to superior macro, mechanics, etc, than a player who is simply having an off day. That's not to say I agree with the original statement, but that's my thoughts. I don't know how that disagrees with what I said. | ||
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Garnet
Vietnam9055 Posts
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10382 Posts
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
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Wuster
1974 Posts
I thought MKP would abuse those early game advantages more, but then again like game 5 showed, when MMA suspects early aggression he knows how to play defensive. Not to say that MMA's bad or anything, but I think the Semi-Finals preview said it best, MMA tries to survive into the mid-game where he can maneuver his way to a win. So that might leave an opening? I dunno, if it does, and maybe I'm being a doubter but I don't think Polt is going to be the one to show us. | ||
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cablesc
United States1540 Posts
"He also told me that because this is a fight of concentrations, I should fight on until the very end." | ||
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Rococo
United States331 Posts
On June 14 2011 04:36 vnlegend wrote: Nestea lost because he made the wrong reads on TOP's builds and had poor defense vs harass. Classic Nestea would perfectly predict what his opponent is doing and have the perfect reaction. That day he did not, he lost the mind games or whatever. Either way, he lost because of his own mistakes, BO-losses, etc... He definitely could have defended the harass better but "classic Nestea" was not a mind reader. Even a player who always made the best possible choices in response to the limited information available to him would still occasionally get BO disadvantages if not losses. This is why tournaments aren't decided by Bo1s. | ||
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vertical101
Hong Kong311 Posts
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On June 14 2011 13:02 vertical101 wrote: im scared that gumiho might leak his practice games with MMA since all fOu are helping Prime player and choya have bad cheating history How would leaking information to Prime.WE help fOu in the slightest? | ||
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Kencorp
United States31 Posts
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On June 14 2011 14:35 Kencorp wrote: I am not so sure Polt matches up well to MMA. While Polt has excellent decision making and unit control his macro leaves something to be desired. He often harassed well and then lost the SCV lead he had gained. This was on multiple occasions mind you. I think MMA will overcome him in any macro game. That's not a slip in macro. That's Polt's playstyle. | ||
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KaRath_
Australia245 Posts
This is such a G grand final, I'm just getting chills thinking about the awesomeness that will be unleashed :D | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On June 14 2011 08:19 CosmicSpiral wrote: Some of the posts are hate, but most of them are irrational apathy. It's stuff like: - "MMA will crush him, he's so much better" (irrational, most people here don't understand how Polt is winning because he doesn't impress them so they conclude he's average) - "Polt has bad macro" (not true either, but most people here are brainwashed with the concept that you have to be constantly producing workers all the time to have good macro) - "Polt's only here because his opponents played like crap" (at points this is true, but it applies to every player who ever played in a tournament) - "Polt's not that good of a player" (somewhat ironic since his record since season 2 rivals that of Bomber or MMA) I find it annoying that one of the best terrans in the world atm gets literally no recognition for his wins. There's always some excuse or qualifier attached to any praise whatsoever. People also talk about MMA like this and it bugs me as well. Well it can bother you (although it's kind of silly that it does, to be honest), but it's nowhere near as bad to be referred to as irrational hatred. I also think MMA is easily better than him and that he will likely sweep him in the finals, that Polt is an average Code S player, and that his macro isn't too convincing. I most definitely don't think he's one of the best Terrans because of his tournament run or recent results. I personally base my opinion on players on actual games, never on statistics and results (especially not in SC2). Polt's gameplay just doesn't stand out in my eyes at all, and it's most certainly not the gameplay of "one of the best Terrans in the world" (unless we're talking about something like 20 best Terrans, in which case he fits in that category). From what I can gather from that post, you seem to expect everyone to be super excited that Polt made the finals and to be impressed and outspoken about it and heap praise onto him, and when this isn't the case, take it as personal offense then go on some defensive crusade and accuse people of irrational hatred just because they aren't impressed by somebody or they think another player is better. THAT is actually irrational. I've been reading a ton of posts about how MKP is going to 3-0 MMA, or how it's "his tournament" the moment NesTea was knocked out (and same was said about NesTea prior to that). It never occurred to me to interpret that as hate, but I was mildly amused by how wrong they are. =P | ||
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