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On June 10 2011 04:29 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2011 04:28 hunts wrote:sigh... so sad nestea got cheesed out  Now I don't really have much of a reason to watch the rest of the super tournament :/ Maybe zerg users would be happier if terran players made a gentlemans agreement to not pressure them before the 15 minute mark? Apparently any attack before that is cheese.
This is getting pretty annoying from some people - don't know why pressure is viewed as cheese, the point is to make your opponent uncomfortable :| Especially if you let a zerg get too comfortable and drone you you'll be looking at a rough midgame. Terran has powerful openers and it's good that they are being utilised.
On topic: Great writeup, really well constructed :D
Hoping either MKP or MMA go on to win the whole thing - Though I wouldn't complain about Alicia winning.
Time for a new champion too be crowned :D
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Hopes TOP or MKP take it.
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Will DreamHack interfere with MarineKings chances to participate in finals?
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On June 10 2011 04:29 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2011 04:24 Jayrod wrote:
Im as big a fan of GSL as anyone and buy a pass to every event, but you're delusional if you honestly believe the games produced will be even remotely entertaining. We have maybe 3 solid people left, the rest are matchup players (see polt), or people on a level more like oGsInca-ish.
Our best hope is that the zerg and the protoss both make the Round of 4. Im really not going out of my way to watch the rest of the games. I think this is MKPs only chance to win a GSL title and prove artosis wrong so I wouldnt mind that Alicia has bad PvZ, but theres only 1 Z left. Nobody knows anything about Line's ZvP and his ZvZ Ive heard isnt amazing, but his next match is a Terran, and his final might be as well should he win. TOP is good at all matchups. Ryung and MMA have fantastic TvT, and MMA is a beast at the other MUs as well. TheBest... Honestly didnt manage to see a single one of his games this season so I cant comment, I have no idea what he played like :O Polt has a TvP which is his best matchup up next, should be good games. There could be a couple of unfortunate final combinations I m sure, but theres a LOT of competitive ones as well. Show nested quote +On June 10 2011 04:28 hunts wrote:sigh... so sad nestea got cheesed out Now I don't really have much of a reason to watch the rest of the super tournament :/ Maybe zerg users would be happier if terran players made a gentlemans agreement to not pressure them before the 15 minute mark? Apparently any attack before that is cheese.
My information is obviously through the filter of the GSL presentation, but TheBest has been dubbed TheWorst of the fOu group in casts. Polt's got this deep via TvP... he got this deep probably similar to inca's PvZ dodging last GSL.
I'd personally like to see more of MMA before dubbing him the "real deal" because I really feel like Bomber's probably better overall.
Im just having alot of trouble getting excited about the rest of the tournament having Code B players or other players that we wouldnt expect to see past ro16 in the normal GSL seasons.
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Great write up! I haven't been watching much of the super tournament due to rl stuff but I will be tuning from now on. All thanks to your article.
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Go SlayerSAlicia! How lucky to have a beast PvT when 6 remaining players are Terrans :D
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On June 10 2011 04:52 Jayrod wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2011 04:29 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On June 10 2011 04:24 Jayrod wrote:
Im as big a fan of GSL as anyone and buy a pass to every event, but you're delusional if you honestly believe the games produced will be even remotely entertaining. We have maybe 3 solid people left, the rest are matchup players (see polt), or people on a level more like oGsInca-ish.
Our best hope is that the zerg and the protoss both make the Round of 4. Im really not going out of my way to watch the rest of the games. I think this is MKPs only chance to win a GSL title and prove artosis wrong so I wouldnt mind that Alicia has bad PvZ, but theres only 1 Z left. Nobody knows anything about Line's ZvP and his ZvZ Ive heard isnt amazing, but his next match is a Terran, and his final might be as well should he win. TOP is good at all matchups. Ryung and MMA have fantastic TvT, and MMA is a beast at the other MUs as well. TheBest... Honestly didnt manage to see a single one of his games this season so I cant comment, I have no idea what he played like :O Polt has a TvP which is his best matchup up next, should be good games. There could be a couple of unfortunate final combinations I m sure, but theres a LOT of competitive ones as well. On June 10 2011 04:28 hunts wrote:sigh... so sad nestea got cheesed out Now I don't really have much of a reason to watch the rest of the super tournament :/ Maybe zerg users would be happier if terran players made a gentlemans agreement to not pressure them before the 15 minute mark? Apparently any attack before that is cheese. My information is obviously through the filter of the GSL presentation, but TheBest has been dubbed TheWorst of the fOu group in casts. Polt's got this deep via TvP... he got this deep probably similar to inca's PvZ dodging last GSL. I'd personally like to see more of MMA before dubbing him the "real deal" because I really feel like Bomber's probably better overall. Im just having alot of trouble getting excited about the rest of the tournament having Code B players or other players that we wouldnt expect to see past ro16 in the normal GSL seasons.
I just want to point out, Polt has played ALL 3 match ups (Losira 2-1, Huk 2-0, Maka 2-1). Polt's worst match is TvT, but he can make a definite (and deserved) run to the semis.
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Great writeup. Sad face about the racial imbalance (I dont mean the game, just the fact its 6/8 terrans  ). I feel like this is the biggest chance for MKP to succeed.
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MKP! MKP! MKP!
Good luck to Line too, I suppose. He's already proven himself as a good player, but it would be nice if "the guy that beat Jinro" (and Nada) could make it even further.
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On June 10 2011 04:52 Isaac wrote:
Will DreamHack interfere with MarineKings chances to participate in finals?
The finals are on the same day as the start of Dreamhack, so MarineKing will more than likely miss if he makes the finals.
Since the semifinals are a few days before Dreamhack, if MarineKing makes it, I'm sure they'll get a replacement from Korea for him to go to Sweden.
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MMA fighting! (Hoping for MMA vs Alicia finals. :D)
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Incredible writeup, really great work, you've certainly piqued my interest in the Ro8.
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MKP the king of Silver should be changed to the Buffalo Bills of SC2 LOL
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[QUOTE]On June 10 2011 04:29 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 10 2011 04:24 Jayrod wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 10 2011 04:28 hunts wrote:
sigh... so sad nestea got cheesed out Now I don't really have much of a reason to watch the rest of the super tournament :/[/QUOTE]
Maybe zerg users would be happier if terran players made a gentlemans agreement to not pressure them before the 15 minute mark? Apparently any attack before that is cheese.[/QUOTE]
So true haha, Zergs need to stop QQ. In my definition cheese is only proxy rax, 6-7-8-9 pools, cannon rush, proxy gates are all-ins
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I really think MarineKing can take this one, he just HAS to stick to his play
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I'm cheering for Line by far, love people who comes from nowhere and beasts it up! (Also he plays Zerg  )
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I really wish the final could be MMA v MKP with  BoxeR in the first row next to  YellOw!
alas, I would like either MMA v Alicia or MKP v Alicia
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On June 10 2011 04:29 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Alicia has bad PvZ, but theres only 1 Z left.
Why do people think this? Is it because he lost the Losira last season 0-2 to the same two base roach ling pressure?
Statistically he is 7-4 (which is statistically his weakest, but by a slime margin) in his sets against zerg which you cannot say is bad, he just took out Leenock who might not be NesTier (see what I did there) but definitely an excellent zerg who defeated aLive and Clide to get the Ro16 (both Code S terrans, and statistically that is Leenock's weakest matchup).
Maybe it's because he makes some funky decisions but wins because he has superior control and wins fights with FF and blink micro?
I don't see him going down to Polt easily, and if he does manage to make it to the Ro4 I think he will be the favourite against either Top or Line, just because both those players do not have any notable success against Protoss relative to Polt.
Overall you can't really say much because it's only 11 games (where he has defeated the likes of Nestea, Losira, Zenio, to name a few) but you can't say its bad.
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Great writeup! Loved it! Good job there, really.
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