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KonohaFlash
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1590 Posts
April 07 2011 12:33 GMT
#301
On April 07 2011 21:21 aurum510 wrote:
So Kitty is too immature, but Destiny is still on the team...?

I don't see Destiny clan-hopping anytime soon.
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
April 07 2011 12:37 GMT
#302
On April 07 2011 20:24 bmml wrote:
Wish poeple would just lay off, he may be a notorious clan jumper but he didn't do anything to ROOT. Its their choice whether they ask him to join knowing that he could possibly leave, he has the right to move when he pleases. I'd assume due to ROOT's odd status in regards to sponsors there is no real formal contractual agreement among members (though I'm probably wrong). Anyway what I'm saying is tease him all you want, even point out he was a bit of an ass in the past but overally Terran is a bit of a boss so just give him a break. Not like the SC2 gods declared thou shalt not leave a clan if you do not like it.


He did this in BW, he's doing it again in SC2.

He wants a team that will support him in sponsoring him to go to different events, but I doubt any team that could afford it at this point would bother. As several people have said, he bounced between teams like a pinball in BW, changing almost weekly. It shows a major lack of professionalism, and I really don't care what age he is, if he's seeking sponsorship, he should be able to show maturity and respect.
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
r3clay
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands137 Posts
April 07 2011 12:38 GMT
#303
On April 07 2011 21:21 aurum510 wrote:
So Kitty is too immature, but Destiny is still on the team...?


Destiny rages and shouts a lot, but is way more mature in the way he acts towards other people, and he fits in with the team while kitty didn't so 1+1=2 and he's still in.
U Mad Bro?
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 12:41:59
April 07 2011 12:39 GMT
#304
is what gosi says even relevant? I'd imagine a team with Fayth and Kiwikaki on it wont leave any players who are deserving outright struggling to find financial assistance.

(for the record Fayth is the guy who put up a 2k USD bounty to whomever gets Dark Voice first).
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
L.F.Haunt
Profile Joined February 2011
United States47 Posts
April 07 2011 12:48 GMT
#305
i heard that catz wanted to charge kitty money to stay at the team house.

on another note kittys look up to catz. that is all
Everyday is an opportunity to grow and learn, no matter how old you are
bmml
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom962 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 12:52:00
April 07 2011 12:50 GMT
#306
On April 07 2011 21:37 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 20:24 bmml wrote:
Wish poeple would just lay off, he may be a notorious clan jumper but he didn't do anything to ROOT. Its their choice whether they ask him to join knowing that he could possibly leave, he has the right to move when he pleases. I'd assume due to ROOT's odd status in regards to sponsors there is no real formal contractual agreement among members (though I'm probably wrong). Anyway what I'm saying is tease him all you want, even point out he was a bit of an ass in the past but overally Terran is a bit of a boss so just give him a break. Not like the SC2 gods declared thou shalt not leave a clan if you do not like it.


He did this in BW, he's doing it again in SC2.

He wants a team that will support him in sponsoring him to go to different events, but I doubt any team that could afford it at this point would bother. As several people have said, he bounced between teams like a pinball in BW, changing almost weekly. It shows a major lack of professionalism, and I really don't care what age he is, if he's seeking sponsorship, he should be able to show maturity and respect.


Naniwa has done exactly the same thing and doesn't even have the excuse of being a kid yet people dont give him an unbelieviably hard time. The way I see it ROOT has a responsibility to make it clear what they can offer their members and if a member doesn't get what they think they deserve, why the hell can't they leave.

People need to get off their high horses, just because you leave a clan or team doesnt make you a bad person and demonising him as such is just silly. Sure its expected but it doesnt mean he should be public enemy number one just because people seem to love ROOT all of a sudden.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
April 07 2011 13:00 GMT
#307
On April 07 2011 21:50 bmml wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 21:37 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
On April 07 2011 20:24 bmml wrote:
Wish poeple would just lay off, he may be a notorious clan jumper but he didn't do anything to ROOT. Its their choice whether they ask him to join knowing that he could possibly leave, he has the right to move when he pleases. I'd assume due to ROOT's odd status in regards to sponsors there is no real formal contractual agreement among members (though I'm probably wrong). Anyway what I'm saying is tease him all you want, even point out he was a bit of an ass in the past but overally Terran is a bit of a boss so just give him a break. Not like the SC2 gods declared thou shalt not leave a clan if you do not like it.


He did this in BW, he's doing it again in SC2.

He wants a team that will support him in sponsoring him to go to different events, but I doubt any team that could afford it at this point would bother. As several people have said, he bounced between teams like a pinball in BW, changing almost weekly. It shows a major lack of professionalism, and I really don't care what age he is, if he's seeking sponsorship, he should be able to show maturity and respect.


Naniwa has done exactly the same thing and doesn't even have the excuse of being a kid yet people dont give him an unbelieviably hard time.


Naniwa has shown change. That's why people don't give him a hard time. He's also been with dignitas now for quite some time and doesn't look like he will leave any time soon. There's a difference between a person that tries to change and one that just repeats the same things over and over.
Antimage
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1293 Posts
April 07 2011 13:03 GMT
#308
On April 07 2011 21:39 Sfydjklm wrote:
is what gosi says even relevant? I'd imagine a team with Fayth and Kiwikaki on it wont leave any players who are deserving outright struggling to find financial assistance.

(for the record Fayth is the guy who put up a 2k USD bounty to whomever gets Dark Voice first).


rofl just b/c a player has money means he's going to hand it out to all his teammates?

Loyalty to a team goes beyond money and Fayth himself said that Kitty took criticism badly.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
April 07 2011 13:06 GMT
#309
On April 07 2011 22:03 Antimage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 21:39 Sfydjklm wrote:
is what gosi says even relevant? I'd imagine a team with Fayth and Kiwikaki on it wont leave any players who are deserving outright struggling to find financial assistance.

(for the record Fayth is the guy who put up a 2k USD bounty to whomever gets Dark Voice first).


rofl just b/c a player has money means he's going to hand it out to all his teammates?

Loyalty to a team goes beyond money and Fayth himself said that Kitty took criticism badly.

I think there is a misunderstanding here.
I merely pointed out that Gosi terrans sponsor concerns are most likely merely an attempt to save face.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
mindspike
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada1902 Posts
April 07 2011 13:08 GMT
#310
On April 07 2011 21:50 bmml wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 21:37 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
On April 07 2011 20:24 bmml wrote:
Wish poeple would just lay off, he may be a notorious clan jumper but he didn't do anything to ROOT. Its their choice whether they ask him to join knowing that he could possibly leave, he has the right to move when he pleases. I'd assume due to ROOT's odd status in regards to sponsors there is no real formal contractual agreement among members (though I'm probably wrong). Anyway what I'm saying is tease him all you want, even point out he was a bit of an ass in the past but overally Terran is a bit of a boss so just give him a break. Not like the SC2 gods declared thou shalt not leave a clan if you do not like it.


He did this in BW, he's doing it again in SC2.

He wants a team that will support him in sponsoring him to go to different events, but I doubt any team that could afford it at this point would bother. As several people have said, he bounced between teams like a pinball in BW, changing almost weekly. It shows a major lack of professionalism, and I really don't care what age he is, if he's seeking sponsorship, he should be able to show maturity and respect.


Naniwa has done exactly the same thing and doesn't even have the excuse of being a kid yet people dont give him an unbelieviably hard time. The way I see it ROOT has a responsibility to make it clear what they can offer their members and if a member doesn't get what they think they deserve, why the hell can't they leave.

People need to get off their high horses, just because you leave a clan or team doesnt make you a bad person and demonising him as such is just silly. Sure its expected but it doesnt mean he should be public enemy number one just because people seem to love ROOT all of a sudden.


Do you see people trashing on QXC or Sheth? It has more to do with how he left.
zerg/human - vancouver, canada
Denizen[9]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States649 Posts
April 07 2011 13:16 GMT
#311
If you read what Catz put and some other root members, it sounds more like he was kicked out then he left
Jaedong, Baby | Idra, Marineking, Tester, Nada
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
April 07 2011 13:27 GMT
#312
On April 07 2011 21:50 bmml wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 21:37 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
On April 07 2011 20:24 bmml wrote:
Wish poeple would just lay off, he may be a notorious clan jumper but he didn't do anything to ROOT. Its their choice whether they ask him to join knowing that he could possibly leave, he has the right to move when he pleases. I'd assume due to ROOT's odd status in regards to sponsors there is no real formal contractual agreement among members (though I'm probably wrong). Anyway what I'm saying is tease him all you want, even point out he was a bit of an ass in the past but overally Terran is a bit of a boss so just give him a break. Not like the SC2 gods declared thou shalt not leave a clan if you do not like it.


He did this in BW, he's doing it again in SC2.

He wants a team that will support him in sponsoring him to go to different events, but I doubt any team that could afford it at this point would bother. As several people have said, he bounced between teams like a pinball in BW, changing almost weekly. It shows a major lack of professionalism, and I really don't care what age he is, if he's seeking sponsorship, he should be able to show maturity and respect.


Naniwa has done exactly the same thing and doesn't even have the excuse of being a kid yet people dont give him an unbelieviably hard time. The way I see it ROOT has a responsibility to make it clear what they can offer their members and if a member doesn't get what they think they deserve, why the hell can't they leave.

People need to get off their high horses, just because you leave a clan or team doesnt make you a bad person and demonising him as such is just silly. Sure its expected but it doesnt mean he should be public enemy number one just because people seem to love ROOT all of a sudden.

Umm, Naniwa was one of the most trashed people in the community.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 07 2011 13:28 GMT
#313
I'm surprised this thread has deteriorated this much.
My advice to you all is this: Life is very short, and there's no time for all this fussing and fighting my friends.

TT1, you are above that senseless aggression. I always took you to be a very introverted and zen dude.

Juan, I hope you find a place where you can call a "home". It's not about money, bro, it's about the love of the game... and I'm not talking about Kevin Costner.

Guy who talked about TT1 hacking, you're cool. Seriously, you're really cool. Grow up.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 13:29:11
April 07 2011 13:29 GMT
#314
Ah man, he just never had the chance to grow : /

Still, kinda expected.
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
Miniraser
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden63 Posts
April 07 2011 13:36 GMT
#315
well, he's very young and seems quite talented for his age. I'm pretty sure he'll find another team soon!
DarkRise
Profile Joined November 2010
1644 Posts
April 07 2011 13:39 GMT
#316
On April 07 2011 21:48 L.F.Haunt wrote:
i heard that catz wanted to charge kitty money to stay at the team house.

on another note kittys look up to catz. that is all


Well he's been in the team for such a short time, you don't expect your team to just support you right there. To top it off, he doesn't have any sc2 achievements yet for ROOT to place big investment. BW is BW and SC2 is now.
I really don't like how he start off his sc2 career though. Reputations comes a long way.
BaltA
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Norway849 Posts
April 07 2011 13:51 GMT
#317
I wish you the best Juan! You are really good!

Let's hope you're next team does fit you more!
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
April 07 2011 13:52 GMT
#318
wow, he lasted a whole month?!
I drop suckas like Plinko
Tiax;mous
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
669 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 13:54:31
April 07 2011 13:53 GMT
#319
On April 07 2011 21:50 bmml wrote:
Naniwa has done exactly the same thing and doesn't even have the excuse of being a kid yet people dont give him an unbelieviably hard time.


Huh? You're terribly wrong sir , before this last MLG , everyone was trashing / hating Naniwa. Any thread including his name turned into a nani hate thread in a few pages , even when his opponent BM'ed , people blamed him just because he's Naniwa ( I think it was dimaga vs naniwa , where Dimaga start BM'ing in the middle of game and Naniwa had to ask him to stop and then block him. Everyone in the LR thread was talking about how BM nani was...)

mechavoc
Profile Joined December 2010
United States664 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 14:25:49
April 07 2011 13:55 GMT
#320
On April 07 2011 19:42 Gositerran wrote:
the fact that root sponsors are only trial sponsors aka advertise get nothing back i have deal with taht in the back why would i deal with it again when they obv wont support the team perhaps only IGN with something i cant do anything so i rather move to another team that there will be news soon 2-5 days which team i will be joining where i will actually get something of my effort and not deal with what my self call fake sponsors except for IGN


I'm glad you are parting ways with ROOT.

I'm not much as a SC2 player but I have done fairly well in the world of business.
There is a certain satisfaction/reward that comes from building something from the ground up.
Working with a team of people to achieve goals.

Judging from your post above you will never know that feeling.


I'm sure ROOT could have already sold out to get a quick reward for their success in SC2. Instead they want to maintain control (ownership) of what they have made. This is a longer road but if successful will gain them a much larger reward in the end ($$/ Independence/ Satisfaction etc..)

You are taking a very short term view which will prevent you from achieving in the long term.

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