EPTYet here is a healthy amount of Protoss in the Korean Top 200.
Korean players must suck to let that many Protoss players through!
KR top 200 11/23/2010 - Page 3
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SovSov
United States755 Posts
Yet here is a healthy amount of Protoss in the Korean Top 200. Korean players must suck to let that many Protoss players through! | ||
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estee
Korea (South)449 Posts
On November 23 2010 16:44 Kraz.Del wrote: Can anyone find NewDawn or BitByBit? NewDawn / 38 창조의아침 573 486 BitByBit / 194 시나브로프라임 807 724 | ||
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MasterJack
Canada215 Posts
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FuRong
New Zealand3089 Posts
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AyJay
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Randomaccount#77123
United States5003 Posts
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ZXRP
South Africa114 Posts
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Luvz
Norway356 Posts
On November 23 2010 11:36 Subversion wrote: Hmmm. inControl said in SotG that Protoss was really under-represented in the Korean Top 200. Doesn't look like it here though, maybe things have already started shifting a little. Edit: actually last week they were 70, this week 66. So I think inC just got it wrong  Still <3 you Geoff also 40% of the korean diamond ladder is Protoss just saying ^^ | ||
Antoine
United States7481 Posts
On November 23 2010 23:01 AyJay wrote: Boxer went from #1 to #107, probably because everyone knows his style he played 0 ladder games this week. so his rating stayed the same while everyone else's went up. On November 23 2010 23:16 ZXRP wrote: Hi, ssks is now using a korean ID, can someone please tell me where he is on the list? 43 티에스엘사기수 785 609 | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On November 23 2010 11:40 ace246 wrote: Select is korean, he even said so himself in an interview from undeniable tornament. Edit: also, since you said that he is a korean citizen, its unquestionable that he is korean, no buts. And you can't even assume that his got an american citizenship since korea doesn't allow dual citizenship. But in the starcraft sense, he is not exposed to the same training as players in Korea therefore he should be a foreigner. | ||
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kirbynator
Canada503 Posts
not surprising. | ||
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Treehead
999 Posts
On November 23 2010 22:02 SovSov wrote: That's strange, from what I hear Protoss is horribly underpowered and that it means nothing to win against them because I'm Zerg. Yet here is a healthy amount of Protoss in the Korean Top 200. Korean players must suck to let that many Protoss players through! Good players will be at the top, regardless of what race they chose. That doesn't mean the game is balanced. The representation at the top of the ladder is approximately the same (slightly less) at the moment as the overall % of players who chose protoss as their race. However, this doesn't mean that this one statistic is representative of the state of the game - simply because it more closely represents the game as you see it. There are many statistics which show Protoss is struggling, and a few (like this one) which show they are on even footing - and I don't believe I've seen any relevant statistics which show them being ahead (aside from win %, which as many have said previously, isn't really relevant). What would you infer from this? | ||
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SovSov
United States755 Posts
On November 23 2010 23:49 Treehead wrote: Good players will be at the top, regardless of what race they chose. That doesn't mean the game is balanced. The representation at the top of the ladder is approximately the same (slightly less) at the moment as the overall % of players who chose protoss as their race. However, this doesn't mean that this one statistic is representative of the state of the game - simply because it more closely represents the game as you see it. There are many statistics which show Protoss is struggling, and a few (like this one) which show they are on even footing - and I don't believe I've seen any relevant statistics which show them being ahead (aside from win %, which as many have said previously, isn't really relevant). What would you infer from this? Yes and the evidence against them is ~4-6% disadvantage and not winning in tournaments/doing well in GSL. I don't mean to go off on a tangent, it's just I'm sick of so many people having this "Protoss sucks now, losing as them means nothing because they're underpowered" attitude because of GSL, when clearly professional level results mean nothing to them. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On November 23 2010 16:16 GhoSt[shield] wrote: Incontrol also stated in the latest SotG that he was using IdrA's battlenet account while he was in Korea. THat may be a reason for the drop as Incontrol was not entirely used to the style played on the Korean ladder and IdrA's MMR rating would face some stiff competition Nope. I did very well on IdrA's account and even better on Artosis' account. IdrA's drop is because he is trying out other things but also because ALL korean P's/T's do 4 gate all ins and 2 rax proxy marine/scv play. It's really lame there atm for Z players. | ||
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Gaxton
Sweden2328 Posts
No. But Flash drinks alot of Pocari Sweat during his matches. Thats the joke. | ||
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Treehead
999 Posts
On November 24 2010 01:19 SovSov wrote: Yes and the evidence against them is ~4-6% disadvantage and not winning in tournaments/doing well in GSL. I don't mean to go off a tangent, it's just I'm sick of so many people having this "Protoss sucks now, losing as them means nothing because they're underpowered" attitude because of GSL, when clearly professional level results mean nothing to them. European top 200 from earlier today, On November 24 2010 00:23 Barook wrote: Changes compared to last week: Terran: 77 (+2) Zerg: 77 (-4) Protoss: 45 (+2) R: 1 (+-0) Note: This is not enough to convince me or anyone of note that anyone is underpowered using this statistic alone, but I wanted to clarify that his statement is not accurate. Another of note - out of the top 64 of the 1500 who tried out for the GSL, how many toss are still alive? Second note: beating protoss is still meaningful because 90% of games are not determined by slight power tweaks to individual units - they are determined by positioning, macro/micro and overall understanding of strategy. Anyone not competing in the GSL currently who's telling you that the reason they are losing has only to do with their race is only making excuses for poor play. | ||
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Welmu
Finland3295 Posts
On November 24 2010 01:41 Treehead wrote: European top 200 from earlier today, Note: This is not enough to convince me or anyone of note that anyone is underpowered using this statistic alone, but I wanted to clarify that his statement is not accurate. Another of note - out of the top 64 of the 1500 who tried out for the GSL, how many toss are still alive? Second note: beating protoss is still meaningful because 90% of games are not determined by slight power tweaks to individual units - they are determined by positioning, macro/micro and overall understanding of strategy. Anyone not competing in the GSL currently who's telling you that the reason they are losing has only to do with their race is only making excuses for poor play. Protoss players on Korean ladder just cheeses or all-ins all the time. Only about 10 left in GSL I think =S | ||
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bioniK
United States65 Posts
On November 23 2010 11:40 ace246 wrote: Select is korean, he even said so himself in an interview from undeniable tornament. Edit: also, since you said that he is a korean citizen, its unquestionable that he is korean, no buts. And you can't even assume that his got an american citizenship since korea doesn't allow dual citizenship. As a American of Korean descent I can tell you it most certainly is possible to have dual citizenship but you can't get Korean citizenship if you already are a citizen from a different country. Select came to the states from Korea so he already had Korean citizenship, and since its not hard to obtain American citizenship he most likely is a dual citizen. | ||
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ace246
Australia360 Posts
On November 24 2010 01:52 bioniK wrote: As a American of Korean descent I can tell you it most certainly is possible to have dual citizenship but you can't get Korean citizenship if you already are a citizen from a different country. Select came to the states from Korea so he already had Korean citizenship, and since its not hard to obtain American citizenship he most likely is a dual citizen. seriously? when did korea allow dual citizenships? i never heard of it. Do you have a legitimate source?(forums don't count) | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
wtf | ||
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