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SichuanPanda
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1542 Posts
October 27 2010 16:59 GMT
#141
On October 28 2010 01:57 schisch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2010 01:55 TeamSoliduss wrote:
German ideology didn't evolve much...

NEIN! VERBOTEN!!


nice a nazi in this thread.
what has "german ideology" to do with being incapable


Yes, cause all the Nazi's are screaming 'No, Prohibited' in German......
i-bonjwa
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 27 2010 17:01 GMT
#142
It's been like this for ages. And no, not every season players get so many PP. I doubt the Wc3 EPS was much different to the SC2 EPS. So the rules shouldn't be a problem.
SpiDaH
Profile Joined March 2010
France198 Posts
October 27 2010 17:03 GMT
#143
On October 28 2010 01:45 DeMusliM wrote:
I'm actually pretty sad about naniwa getting banned, despite what people think of him he's an ok guy.
Things weren't helped much by the ESL admins in this case - Doso, who is actually the worst admin i've ever had to deal with, i and naniwa both asked on multiple occasions on how to do certain stuff such as postponing matchs (as the whole EPS.germany section of the website is in, German.) and he would respond with such idiotic phrases like "you are a big boy now, do it yourself" and i wake up the next day with 5 pp's next to my name. Naniwa also had the same problem but unfortunately didn't help himself by refusing to play a match ontime and got a major PP. ESL' rules are also pretty fucking retarded to say the least - for example - i had a match on the 19th scheduled, and i was away from then until the 26th for blizzcon - and i asked if i could pp it to 1 day to 27th, unfortunately that's not allowed even with the exception of being out of the country, and i was awarded alot of pp's. While rules are cool and stuff, you can't have idiots enforce them - as they always tend to do it wrongly.
Also naniwa being removed definetely makes the league less interesting, and messes the ranking table up for people like hasu - not really happy with it at all. Sorry Naniwa


Well you have not shown near 5% of the BM that nani has in the past years man, you always were respectful of things on the wc3 scene. Yeah ok maybe EPS admins suck on some points, that you would know better than us that's for sure, but it doesn't stop most players from not getting banned. Sure you will get PP's, but with naniwa's known attitude since I can't even recall, it sure as hell didn't help I'm pretty sure. If he had changed his attitude since the switch to SC2 I would have defended him, but having obsed many of his games, having seen him talk in many channels and having realized that he's still "that" guy just annoys the hell out of me.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
October 27 2010 17:06 GMT
#144
On October 28 2010 01:52 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Naniwa has been nothing but a total issue every single time I have dealt with him and always acted like he's 3. I have nothing against DeMuslim but I am taking what he says with a grain of salt. Can't count how many times I set him up with matches vs Root (who he was talking shit about) and would send him 4 reminders per match about when it was and not have him show.

Naniwa imo is a disgrace to the SCII scene. I am not surprised by this, and I have never heard of any other SCII player accruing 25 pp's. The entire American scene has figured it out with only a couple pp's.


I bet he has been an issue, but i wouldn't take it with a grain of salt what Demuslim just said. The rules has been horrible since forever and there is so much unnecessary rules in this tournament. And it's not the first time EPS admins has been unprofessional as hell.

But otherwise you are right with Naniwa's case.
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CheeseGrater
Profile Joined August 2010
United States290 Posts
October 27 2010 17:15 GMT
#145
On October 28 2010 00:16 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2010 00:10 Borked wrote:
On October 27 2010 23:11 dondake wrote:
Naniwa, Idra, laloush, satini should team up and create biggest BM squad ever.


idra is fine right now.

He just got temp banned again for having a go at WeRRa in the thread on their disbanding. He's improved a lot though to his credit, and in public is pretty professional.


Yeah but I think most people agree that temp ban was just a misunderstanding on what Idra actually meant. I seriously doubt he meant anything not having to do with SC2 gameplay by his post.
Punkstar
Profile Joined July 2010
Slovakia522 Posts
October 27 2010 17:16 GMT
#146
So long and thanks for all the fish Zerg rage...
When in doubt, just drone up.
ven
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany332 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-27 17:27:36
October 27 2010 17:21 GMT
#147
Which rules exactly are so horrible and unnecessary? I get that some things might be a bit inconvenient and unflexible but that's just one of the trade-offs, I suppose. This is obviously not accounting for bad admins.

On October 28 2010 02:15 CheeseGrater wrote:
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On October 28 2010 00:16 Yaotzin wrote:
On October 28 2010 00:10 Borked wrote:
On October 27 2010 23:11 dondake wrote:
Naniwa, Idra, laloush, satini should team up and create biggest BM squad ever.


idra is fine right now.

He just got temp banned again for having a go at WeRRa in the thread on their disbanding. He's improved a lot though to his credit, and in public is pretty professional.


Yeah but I think most people agree that temp ban was just a misunderstanding on what Idra actually meant. I seriously doubt he meant anything not having to do with SC2 gameplay by his post.

Which was exactly the problem. The topic had nothing to do with SC2 gameplay.
You can reach the rainbow. I'll be there to help.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
October 27 2010 17:26 GMT
#148
On October 27 2010 23:27 SmoKim wrote:
a perfect example of Nani's BM attitude in the qxc thread, just read through the pages -,-'

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=131904


Even worse is he dodged the shit out of the match I set him up vs. Sheth. That thread also contains some of the best Kiwikaki one liners on TL! lol
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ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
October 27 2010 17:29 GMT
#149
On October 28 2010 02:26 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2010 23:27 SmoKim wrote:
a perfect example of Nani's BM attitude in the qxc thread, just read through the pages -,-'

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=131904


Even worse is he dodged the shit out of the match I set him up vs. Sheth. That thread also contains some of the best Kiwikaki one liners on TL! lol


That is indeed quite baller

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zerotol
Profile Joined August 2009
Belgium508 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-27 17:36:53
October 27 2010 17:36 GMT
#150
I am a bit disgusted by the showing of the TL community in this thread.

People condemn BM but they are not behaving properly in this thread either. What is so amusing about a player getting removed from a league? It sucks for the player and it sucks for the league because the table gets messed up.
Now i am become death, the destroyer of worlds
zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
October 27 2010 17:39 GMT
#151
On October 28 2010 01:45 DeMusliM wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

I'm actually pretty sad about naniwa getting banned, despite what people think of him he's an ok guy.
Things weren't helped much by the ESL admins in this case - Doso, who is actually the worst admin i've ever had to deal with, i and naniwa both asked on multiple occasions on how to do certain stuff such as postponing matchs (as the whole EPS.germany section of the website is in, German.) and he would respond with such idiotic phrases like "you are a big boy now, do it yourself" and i wake up the next day with 5 pp's next to my name. Naniwa also had the same problem but unfortunately didn't help himself by refusing to play a match ontime and got a major PP. ESL' rules are also pretty fucking retarded to say the least - for example - i had a match on the 19th scheduled, and i was away from then until the 26th for blizzcon - and i asked if i could pp it to 1 day to 27th, unfortunately that's not allowed even with the exception of being out of the country, and i was awarded alot of pp's. While rules are cool and stuff, you can't have idiots enforce them - as they always tend to do it wrongly.
Also naniwa being removed definetely makes the league less interesting, and messes the ranking table up for people like hasu - not really happy with it at all. Sorry Naniwa


Sorry, Benjamin, but now you are in deeeeeeep trouble. Calling this out in public is not the way you are supposed to behave, according to point 3.3 on page 13 of the 69-paged EPS rulebook (srsly, lol). You bad, bad boy, you will get ELEBENTY penalty points for this!

Honestly, who cares about EPS, anyway? Being around in the German bw-scene since '98, right now I couldn't care less about what's happening in this ESL. Recalling how competitional gaming evolved in Germany, I can clearly remember how BW has always been the red-headed step-child compared to the FPS games in the ESL, which only got a deeper interest in SC when SC2 was finally announced. Until then, they were completely lost in bw.
And if the players would actually have read those ridiculous 69 pages of the rulebook, they would rather want drop out of that league, anyway. They are more of an employee than a competitor in this league.
SC/BW successfully neglected ESL, and as long as ESL puts up these admins and rules, I can not see SC2 surviving in ESL, it'll just slowly die out.
ModeratorWenn ich einmal traurig bin, dann trink' ich einen Korn. Wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann trink' ich noch 'nen Korn. Und wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann fang' ich an von vorn!
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
October 27 2010 17:40 GMT
#152
On October 28 2010 02:36 zerotol wrote:
I am a bit disgusted by the showing of the TL community in this thread.

People condemn BM but they are not behaving properly in this thread either. What is so amusing about a player getting removed from a league? It sucks for the player and it sucks for the league because the table gets messed up.


He travels to Germany to make a living off of SC2 only to get kicked out of the one league he's supposed to compete in because of BM and not showing up to matches.

Surely that is kind of ironic. I love me some irony either way.
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Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
October 27 2010 17:41 GMT
#153
On October 28 2010 02:36 zerotol wrote:
What is so amusing about a player getting removed from a league?

Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall into an open sewer and die.

It's all about who it happens to. Naniwa is regarded as a douche, so it's funny. Plus it's entirely his own fault.

It sucks for the player and it sucks for the league because the table gets messed up.

Well yeah it does suck for Hasu. Don't think the rest are sad :p
Demand2k
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Norway875 Posts
October 27 2010 17:44 GMT
#154
Not really surprising, considering the latent anger Naniwa has been showing all along: Both in-game and on these forums.
ch4ppi
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany802 Posts
October 27 2010 17:45 GMT
#155
On October 28 2010 01:55 TeamSoliduss wrote:
German ideology didn't evolve much...

NEIN! VERBOTEN!!


Sorry but can a Mod plz take care of that, it's totally inappropriate..
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-27 17:56:54
October 27 2010 17:46 GMT
#156
Well I hope this will not have bad side effects for Cloud because 1) I think there will be a reaction towards Nani by MYM and 2) it could risk the whole idea of a progamer house in germany. Unlike Naniwa Cloud seems to adapt way better to the progamer life in Germany even though his results still have space for improvement.
Btw. some rules of the EPS may be a bit too severe but in most cases the punishment is quite small. But I mean Nani resheduled the match vs Goody to Monday and ESL TV actually intended to broadcast the game which means that a lot of employees went to the studio and people went on the stream to see the game and Nani cancels it because he was "tired". If esport ever wants to progress in terms of professionalism then punishment is not totally undeserved.
zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
October 27 2010 17:48 GMT
#157
On October 28 2010 02:45 ch4ppi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2010 01:55 TeamSoliduss wrote:
German ideology didn't evolve much...

NEIN! VERBOTEN!!


Sorry but can a Mod plz take care of that, it's totally inappropriate..


Yet it's totally factual. ESL seems not to be about players playing games, it's about ESL being the ESL.
ModeratorWenn ich einmal traurig bin, dann trink' ich einen Korn. Wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann trink' ich noch 'nen Korn. Und wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann fang' ich an von vorn!
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
October 27 2010 17:51 GMT
#158
On October 28 2010 01:57 schisch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2010 01:55 TeamSoliduss wrote:
German ideology didn't evolve much...

NEIN! VERBOTEN!!


nice a nazi in this thread.
what has "german ideology" and "NO! FORBIDDEN!" to do with being incapable?
atleast try to learn the meaning of german words before writing german


Maybe you should try and not say germans are nazis just because they say say something in german, it makes you a little bit racist dont you think ?

Its NaNiwa's bussiness if he wants to obey the rules, dont know whats all the big fuss about.
HuK
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1591 Posts
October 27 2010 17:53 GMT
#159
i think overall this is a bad move by esl, some of the rules are pretty bad and even when you try your best to follow them then there are like errors on site or something, and they just penalize you. Altho naniwa has been known to be a little rough around the edges sometimes i dont see any mention of bm or anything (which what i was hoping for: that he like flipped out and broke a computer at a lan or punched someone). Either way this sucks
ProgamerLive like a God or die like a Slave 11:11
schisch
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany123 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-27 17:56:39
October 27 2010 17:54 GMT
#160
On October 28 2010 02:51 PaD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2010 01:57 schisch wrote:
On October 28 2010 01:55 TeamSoliduss wrote:
German ideology didn't evolve much...

NEIN! VERBOTEN!!


nice a nazi in this thread.
what has "german ideology" and "NO! FORBIDDEN!" to do with being incapable?
atleast try to learn the meaning of german words before writing german


Maybe you should try and not say germans are nazis just because they say say something in german, it makes you a little bit racist dont you think ?

Its NaNiwa's bussiness if he wants to obey the rules, dont know whats all the big fuss about.


what a fail post, dude im from germany and i live in germany.
and u are trying to tell me that im a nazi because i say he should learn the meanings of german words before posting anything in german? hahaha
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